For the 1st time publicly Jermall Charlo responds to Oscar De La Hoya saying they offered him/his handlers the Canelo fight before Jacobs. I promise this is worth the listen.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/si-boxing-with-chris-mannix/id1176276029
At 45:34 the interview begins. 49:41 it starts getting interesting, he gets asked about the offers & he gets angry/agitated with Mannix questions towards the end of the interview.
Charlo on the Andrade offer: "You can't pay me what I'm making now & be like hey then we're gonna fight for both of the belts. Like this a big fight for me like you know, this something ppv worthy uh like you know uh."
"The offer didn't make sense, umm & I'm pretty sure my team woulda took the offer if it made sense."
Charlo on if Canelo GGG fights he been asking for are there for him: "You must don't watch boxing, you must don't watch boxing, alright then watu think what do- yeah they there for me all I gotta do is fight. I gotta continue to fight, win & Imma be the best I can be! Idk watu asking me! Watu want me to say!? 'Naa they not there for me' watu want me to give you, they there for me duh, if you know boxing you know it. If you don't you gon ask questions like this!"
I want to know how people feel about him saying that the unification with Andrade is going to cost a little bit more on their network (meaning Dazn) and him saying you can't pay me what I'm already making now for that fight. 7 mill for Dennis Hogan, Brandon Adams?
He should be mentioning Andrade.
As for Charlo nobody really knows what he's taking home but him. It's hard to believe he's getting 7 mill for Adams & Hogan. Will he get that for Derevyanchenko? & Mikey Garcia is a bigger draw, but 7 mill is good for him but not Charlo. Something's not adding up to me. Lastly Charlo didn't say he even negotiated. Ok 7 mill isn't good.
"Well I want xy&z for Andrade." You accused him of hiding behind a network but your network didn't offer Andrade a 1 fight deal & they didn't match the offer, Eddie & Dazn gave to you.
Your narrative is based on the notion that you actually believe 7 million was the offer. What makes you believe that was the actual amount besides on promoter saying so?
No he ain't. Canelo is miles better. Not to mention his resume is trash compared to any other 160 names that get brought up here as much or more than Andrade.
Again he's not the best boxer on DAZN. If Mannix is trying to max shill for DAZN he's pushing Canelo on Charlo & everyone else who weighs 160 to 175.
Yea Andrade should keep that in mind. He's gonna need to cross the street if DAZN isn't gonna make any of the big fights they can make & won't pay off network guys their market value to see if they can build Andrade into a worthwhile name guy.
We never gonna agree on Andrade, you not gonna convince me I'm not gonna convince you. We just gonna have to see who's saying what when the fighters you giving passes for avoiding him, fight him. I see you glossed over Derevyanchenko's trainer giving you the facts tho.
Wouldn't max shill be GGG solely then? I'm not sure I understand.
What you want & your market value isn't necessarily the same thing. I already addressed Showtime's offer to him in this thread.
Mannix and Charlo remind me of that dysfunctional couple at the bar who deserve one another. Two a-holes who sold their souls to DAZN and PBC respectively.
Yeah, but if you keep claiming that you want Canelo desperately every damn chance you get, and GBP calls you, don't you wanna make your own personal effort to make the fight happen by calling your adviser/uncle Al? Haymon is not your boss. He's supposed to do what you want him to do.
Mark my word.
Charlie will again be pretending he wants Canelo after his fight tonight.
Why should he help more folks know who the fook Andrade is?
However you look at the pay or situation SD is a better opponent than Andrade in every way & bringing up Andrade when he's fighting a guy better than Andrade definitely seems shillish &/or weird right now. And Andrade ain't even fighting no one that I'm aware of still. And that's literally & figuratively.
Randomly what's odd to me is DAZN gots or had at least 160 locked up like PBC gots 147 locked up & none of their 160 guys except Canelo have had a fight anyone gives a fook about.
Because Andrade is the best fighter on Dazn & Mannix works for Dazn. Even if he didn't, the most talented fighters should be the most popular so why not use whatever platform you have to bring awareness to the best fighter on your network?
I remember when Errol was the most avoided fighter in that division & had to cross the pond before he could get the PBC fighters to swim with the big fish.
Yep. Same clowns who kept pretending they wanted Canelo.
Even saying Canelo didn't want to fight brotha Charlie.
https://www.boxingscene.com/ronnie-shields-canelo-just-wanna-fight-jermall-charlo--140387
When offers are made they make all kinds of excuses.
Yep. Let's hope we'll never hear them use Canelo's name again.
Call Al Haymon doe.
Yeah, but if you keep claiming that you want Canelo desperately every damn chance you get, and GBP calls you, don't you wanna make your own personal effort to make the fight happen by calling your adviser/uncle Al? Haymon is not your boss. He's supposed to do what you want him to do.
So he admits there was actually an offer made, yet his trainer (what's his name?) came out after weeks of deafening silence denied there was such offer, even accused Hoya of lying.
Let's just hope Charlie never mentions Canelo's name again.
Yep. Same clowns who kept pretending they wanted Canelo.
Even saying Canelo didn't want to fight brotha Charlie.
https://www.boxingscene.com/ronnie-shields-canelo-just-wanna-fight-jermall-charlo--140387
When offers are made they make all kinds of excuses.
Yep. Let's hope we'll never hear them use Canelo's name again.
Call Al Haymon doe.
I used to dig Mannix but he's turned into a DAZN shill since they hired him. Mfer can't not mention Andrade if his life depended on it.
And like it or not Charlo is right. The starting offer on a fight off the network where I make $x per fight has gotta be $x + $1 at a minimum. If you aren't offering a better deal whats the point. Especially when the other side is fooking Andrade who's resume is in need of some improvements itself.
He should be mentioning Andrade.
As for Charlo nobody really knows what he's taking home but him. It's hard to believe he's getting 7 mill for Adams & Hogan. Will he get that for Derevyanchenko? & Mikey Garcia is a bigger draw, but 7 mill is good for him but not Charlo. Something's not adding up to me. Lastly Charlo didn't say he even negotiated. Ok 7 mill isn't good.
"Well I want xy&z for Andrade." You accused him of hiding behind a network but your network didn't offer Andrade a 1 fight deal & they didn't match the offer, Eddie & Dazn gave to you.
when he does that Condescending Sh^t he does BUT he asked the right question during this interview
Charlo brothers can get overly emotional at times inside and outside of the ring
I agree with this but Mora is a former fighter & basically has set the tone for how their relationship goes by being laxed. I can see how other's wouldn't like it but maybe he's cool with it.
The questions he asked were all topical but were all intentionally used to discredit Jermall's credibility. He was calling Jermall a ducker the entire time without saying the exact words. Of course Jermall was gonna get mad.
He is tho, at least with Andrade. He has more leverage in that negotiation & it doesn't seem to be a willingness to collaborate. No actual negotiating. With Canelo it's a take it or leave it thing, but even if he was slightly lowballed. He gains more than anybody else he could fight if he beats him so idk..
and chris mannix isn't a saint either with his passive aggressive questions.
The questions he asked were all topical but were all intentionally used to discredit Jermall's credibility.
Often times fans say interviewers don't ask the right questions & they kiss aśs too much. I believe Mannix asked the right questions that the people wanna know the answers to & did so in a way that wasn't disrespectful or fan boyish.
lol at the thought of charlo-andrade being PPV worthy :lol1:
It is. There's more interest than either one vs Derevyanchenko. Neither one are household names or ppv stars. But for a 1st (or 2nd in Charlo's case) this is a great entry level ppv.
Let's look at recent history:
SpenceGarcia
CrawfordPostol
SpencePorter
CrawfordKhan
TankLSC
GGGLemieux
CaneloAngulo
The only recent ones I can think of that it's not better than would be KovalevWard 1& 2. & GGGJacobs.
Not using any fighter twice, it's one of the biggest & best fights to be made in boxing.
Charlo did the stanky leg emotionally and mentally when asked tough questions. Manixx did what reporters are supposed to do. Charlo is 30 and still afraid to unify.
Charlo was being overly sensitive and made a few admissions on the offers that his own team didn't make, and chris mannix isn't a saint either with his passive aggressive questions. It's just hilarious to watch the 2 of them talk stupid.
So he admits there was actually an offer made, yet his trainer (what's his name?) came out after weeks of deafening silence denied there was such offer, even accused Hoya of lying.
Let's just hope Charlie never mentions Canelo's name again.
Lol at his podcasts description : "Chris Mannix will bring fans closer to the sport".
I really can't stand him. And I agree with sicko. I'd love to see Mora break his jaw.
The questions he asked were all topical but were all intentionally used to discredit Jermall's credibility. He was calling Jermall a ducker the entire time without saying the exact words. Of course Jermall was gonna get mad.
He is a ducker. He ducked Mannix's questions like he ducked Canelo and Andrade.
Lol at his podcasts description : "Chris Mannix will bring fans closer to the sport".
I really can't stand him. And I agree with sicko. I'd love to see Mora break his jaw.
The questions he asked were all topical but were all intentionally used to discredit Jermall's credibility. He was calling Jermall a ducker the entire time without saying the exact words. Of course Jermall was gonna get mad.
Mannix is an A$$hole make no mistake about it and often I would love to see Sergio Mora hit him with a Combo sometimes when he does that Condescending Sh^t he does BUT he asked the right question during this interview
Charlo brothers can get overly emotional at times inside and outside of the ring