How good was Prime Montell Griffin?

Probably John Ruiz level

Roy was toying with him in that first fight because he was bored and clearly superior, what are you talking about? Roy would give away rounds because he didn’t want to exert energy. - -Why U give away U brain? Don't wanna think?

Just the one scorecard was bad. In the rematch. The other 5 across the two fights were fine. That scorecard was terrible and I did have Toney winning the rematch but it was a close fight either way. Yeah I remember there being at least one crazy card. I had Griffin winning the first fight and Toney winning the rematch too.

Wasn’t there some terrible scorecards though? Didn’t they have Griffin winning like 11 rounds or something silly like that. I remember thinking the fix was in. Just the one scorecard was bad. In the rematch. The other 5 across the two fights were fine. That scorecard was terrible and I did have Toney winning the rematch but it was a close fight either way.

He literally did beat Toney twice. Neither were robberies so he got two close, either way decisions. Wasn’t there some terrible scorecards though? Didn’t they have Griffin winning like 11 rounds or something silly like that. I remember thinking the fix was in.

Very good fighter, I always say he was incredibly underrated. The Roy Jones win looks great on paper but he won on a technicality in reality, still gave a peak Jones a lot of problems though. I thought Toney was unlucky not to get the nod in at least one of the fights too but Griffin performed well in both. I thought he was outboxing Dariusz until he got caught as well. He proved in those three fights he could mix it with the very best.

Myself and a lot of people thought Toney won both fights. Especially the second. He gave Roy some problems in the early rounds, but Roy had him figured out by the time he took the dive. He was good, but not as good as those two. A lot of people also thought Griffin won both. So what’s your point?

Good fighter but no he did not beat James twice. Both were bad decisions IMO but did give lights out hell each time and got the nod. Given his height, Montell was incredible. He literally did beat Toney twice. Neither were robberies so he got two close, either way decisions.

Roy was toying with him in that first fight because he was bored and clearly superior, what are you talking about? Roy would give away rounds because he didn’t want to exert energy. I don't know what fight you watched, but Griffin won most of the rounds and frustrating jones. Even the 1st knockdown, he was winning the round and it wasn't evne a real knockdown. The 2nd kockdown was though. He was making Roy look very average. And truthfully, I picked Griffin to win that fight . NO lie, I told everyone that friday before the fight that griffin was gonna win due to styles. The rematch, he was just afraid. It should have been an easier fight because Roy was leaving himself open for counters that he didn't capitalize on but he was looking for a way out. I don't think roy's last uppercut on him was enough for him to act like Trevor Berbick.Tarver was hitting him harder than that for 12 rounds knocking him all over the place and he fought til the end.

Myself and a lot of people thought Toney won both fights. Especially the second. He gave Roy some problems in the early rounds, but Roy had him figured out by the time he took the dive. He was good, but not as good as those two.

Good fighter but no he did not beat James twice. Both were bad decisions IMO but did give lights out hell each time and got the nod. Given his height, Montell was incredible.

His show was ok I guess, but he’s no Phil Donahue.

Yes once Roy Jones Junior started to go through the gears? It was game over 'I have always felt as if Griffin was play acting after he as hit while he was kneeling etcOf course, Griffin knew he couldn’t hang with Roy and tried to find a way out. When Roy felt invincible he would “play with his food” somewhat. He did it in a lot of those fights in his prime, he always had a different gear or level he could hit. A lot of great fighters were this way, including Mayweather. They never wanted to show you exactly what they could do and how good they really were, only glimpses to remind you and then go back into auto pilot/preservation mode.

Very skilled fighter. Lacked physical attributes but made up for it with his skills. The only fighter to trouble a prime Roy Jones. Beat Toney twice (close fights) Very very good fighter.

He wasn't really outboxing Roy. He did have a few good early rounds but Roy was taking over more and more before he got DQ'd. He was a very good counter puncher. A smart southpaw. He was only 5'7 so being that short as a LHW was very impressive. He wasn’t a southpaw.

Roy was toying with him in that first fight because he was bored and clearly superior, what are you talking about? Roy would give away rounds because he didn’t want to exert energy. Yes once Roy Jones Junior started to go through the gears? It was game over 'I have always felt as if Griffin was play acting after he as hit while he was kneeling etc

Roy was toying with him in that first fight because he was bored and clearly superior, what are you talking about? Roy would give away rounds because he didn’t want to exert energy.