Greater fighter: Andre Ward or Wladimir Klitschko

Nah, but only by pure chance. I had to pay for a holiday for me and my wife for our tenth wedding anniversary. I was going to be all in on Wlad to beat Fury, but the fight got delayed, and I needed my money so I pulled every cent from my betting account to help pay for the trip. It wasn't a fortune or anything, well under a thousand dollars. But I'm glad I didn't lose it. Cool. cool....

- -U boy ducked the 50 yr old Popkins challenge cuz he knew being just Son of Wart cannot match the Popkins filth and stink. Hopkins literally said he didnt want any part of ward. I would have to pick ward but I cant even hold it against klit.. his division was empty for years. Despite probably losing to his two toughest opponents, he never ducked anyone and carried himself like a champ.

Wlad by longevity.

You lost money on the Fury fight? Nah, but only by pure chance. I had to pay for a holiday for me and my wife for our tenth wedding anniversary. I was going to be all in on Wlad to beat Fury, but the fight got delayed, and I needed my money so I pulled every cent from my betting account to help pay for the trip. It wasn't a fortune or anything, well under a thousand dollars. But I'm glad I didn't lose it.

Ward and it isn’t that close! Both great fighters and are in the all time great conversations!

I think Ward has the edge in skill, but he should have a loss on his record against Kovalev. P4P he is probably slightly better. But Wladimir has the much greater legacy. He dominated a division so badly that no-one would step up to face him, and did this for ages. Ward won the super six, which is really good but not quite the same thing. Perhaps if Ward had of stayed more focused on committed to boxing he would have had a better legacy. He had the talent for it. Over the space of two years I quadrupled my starting money by betting all in on three fighters. Wlad, Ward and Mayweather. I didn't bet on anyone else. Wlad and Mayweather created legacies that put them amongst the ATGs - Mayweather more than Wlad. Ward didn't. You lost money on the Fury fight?

If only Wladimir had sought help for his drinking problem maybe he wouldn't have tripped over referees and fallen down so many times. https://www.heavyweightblog.com/knnimages/wladimir-klitschko-vs-lamon-brewster.gif

- -I like how he sued his dying soon to be dead promoter who was brilliant in keeping him at home in an international tourney so he could go undefeated. he sued because he wanted to fight guys like dmitri sartison and didnt want to fight the guys hbo wanted like bute and ggg. that should tell you all you need to know

Andre Ward was more talented, but Wladimir Kiltschko has achieved the more historically 'Kiltschko was the last great heavyweight champion whether people liked him or not' etc. This right here. Ward was my man, but to be heavyweight champ for like 10 years is a hell of an accomplishment.

wlad klitschko is better! he was more dominant than ward! he fought longer and he proved he was the best far longer than ward did plus ward had lot stretches where he was inactive plus ward quitting the sport when light heavyweight was super red hot hurts him.

everything you said was true but the problem is wlad was also a horrible cheat. his entire style was also based on cheating. not that he did this every fight, he didnt need his cheating tactics against alex leapai but against povetking he held like 200 something times. same with ward against paul smith, no cheating(cept when he got rocked) but against kovalev and kessler? cheating time! Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all. The Povetkin fight was absolutely horrible to watch and a fair ref would have disqualified Wlad. He definitely fought his fair share of fights under advantageous conditions too, no dispute there.

- -I like how he sued his dying soon to be dead promoter who was brilliant in keeping him at home in an international tourney so he could go undefeated.

Ward. Klitschko was stopped 3 times and knocked down about a dozen times. Ward was unbeaten and he's a two division champion. That speaks for itself.

Wlad easily. Dominated his division for years and fought everyone around. Took his setbacks and losses like a man and came back stronger. Went out on a high with a great performance against a young hungry champion in Joshua. Ward managed his career really carefully and was very risk averse. Always looking for the low risk, high reward option, and always had an advantage in some way such as the location (Super Six), the weight (Chad Dawson), the ref (Kessler fight) or the judges (Kovalev), if not a combination of several. The only genuine risk he took in his career was taking the fight with Kovalev - a fight which he clearly lost and was bailed out by corrupt judging. Overall, Ward was a good but overrated boxer (when he wasn't fouling and clinching) who didn't do enough to leave behind a great legacy and escaped with his '0' while he still could. I'm not a huge fan of Wlad's by any means but you can't help but respect his legacy and what he accomplished. Wlad was greater and it's not even close. everything you said was true but the problem is wlad was also a horrible cheat. his entire style was also based on cheating. not that he did this every fight, he didnt need his cheating tactics against alex leapai but against povetking he held like 200 something times. same with ward against paul smith, no cheating(cept when he got rocked) but against kovalev and kessler? cheating time!

Wlad easily. Dominated his division for years and fought everyone around. Took his setbacks and losses like a man and came back stronger. Went out on a high with a great performance against a young hungry champion in Joshua. Ward managed his career really carefully and was very risk averse. Always looking for the low risk, high reward option, and always had an advantage in some way such as the location (Super Six), the weight (Chad Dawson), the ref (Kessler fight) or the judges (Kovalev), if not a combination of several. The only genuine risk he took in his career was taking the fight with Kovalev - a fight which he clearly lost and was bailed out by corrupt judging. Overall, Ward was a good but overrated boxer (when he wasn't fouling and clinching) who didn't do enough to leave behind a great legacy and escaped with his '0' while he still could. I'm not a huge fan of Wlad's by any means but you can't help but respect his legacy and what he accomplished. Wlad was greater and it's not even close.

Can argue for either

Andre Ward was more talented, but Wladimir Kiltschko has achieved the more historically 'Kiltschko was the last great heavyweight champion whether people liked him or not' etc.

- -U boy ducked the 50 yr old Popkins challenge cuz he knew being just Son of Wart cannot match the Popkins filth and stink. old popkins and wart didn't want to fight each other i don't think, for whatever reasons

- -U unofficially the dumberest. We don't need to see a sliding scale comparison to know that. Son of Wart is the wartiest I'll grant U. That's my opinion....... Idiot fck off btch

- -Da Uturd club still debating on whether to be a floater or a sinker. QED my post