Dillian Whyte is alright. Certainty has had a better career than Chisora.

When your best win is Carlos Takam that says an awful lot. :lol1: Just like Ortiz has Jennings for the best win. About the same. Yes, Chisora and Ortiz are the same level.

Chisora stopped Takam ice cold. When your best win is Carlos Takam that says an awful lot. :lol1:

He was looking very good with only one loss and many good wins. The KO lose to Povetkin is a big setback. If he can get a rematch and win that would help a lot to restore the damage done.

iffy? his best win is arguiably a shot to hell Lucas 'the tattood p enis' Browne. I dont see how you can count Parker, Rivas, Wach, Delboy 1 as good wins considering the circumstances & Helenius came in on 1 weeks notice, gassed out completely after 2 rounds. (in which he badly hurt Whyte). Decent wins. Not so good when put in the right perspective but.... It's kind of a lot more than Chisora ever did even if Chisora should have that win over him.

Whyte's career is better since he's put together a decent string of wins. Even if they're kinda iffy, Chisora's resume isn't as good. Whyte's not winning a world title. I do think he would beat Kabayel though. iffy? his best win is arguiably a shot to hell Lucas 'the tattood p enis' Browne. I dont see how you can count Parker, Rivas, Wach, Delboy 1 as good wins considering the circumstances & Helenius came in on 1 weeks notice, gassed out completely after 2 rounds. (in which he badly hurt Whyte).

Whyte and Chisora are the same level. Both fights could have one other way. Chisora lost to Vitali, Haye, Fury, so would Whyte. Chisora lost a close decision to Pulev, Kabayel, Helenius. Just the same whyte could have lost a close decision to Rivas, Parker. Whyte just had much more luck in his career getting some better victories. Chisora stopped Takam ice cold.

How has he had a better career? curious how you worked that one out. Hes never even fought for a european title. delboy has fought for euro and world honours ? Before you say he lost doe, Whyte would win a world title? :lol1: I dont see how Whyte could win a euro title, the likes of Kabayal et all beat him as well.. Whyte's career is better since he's put together a decent string of wins. Even if they're kinda iffy, Chisora's resume isn't as good. Whyte's not winning a world title. I do think he would beat Kabayel though.

I don`t get that boxing logic. Whyte has close fights with Parker and Rivas and loses to Povetkin. How does that prove he is worse than Wilder? Wilder`s best win is Stiverne. I still think Whyte -Wilder is 50 -50 fight. Wilder fights nothing like Povetkin, he is far underskilled.

But please, let's never, ever act like he's better than Wilder or Ortiz ever again. Ever. This... Unfortunately idiots will continue to be idiots though...

How has he had a better career? curious how you worked that one out. Hes never even fought for a european title. delboy has fought for euro and world honours ? Before you say he lost doe, Whyte would win a world title? :lol1: I dont see how Whyte could win a euro title, the likes of Kabayal et all beat him as well..

I didn't mention resume, you did. Have you seen Ortiz's form? Not that great TBH, makes hardwork out of the likes of Allen, Hammer and Kaufman etc. Only looked notably any good against Wilder until he gets knocked out but so did Spzilka and he got handled by Chisora. Pretty baseless to suggest Ortiz can do anything Povetkin can. Did you see Povetkin vs Hammer?

Nothing. You're going to base an entire argument around resume instead of form so we're just wasting more time here. I didn't mention resume, you did. Have you seen Ortiz's form? Not that great TBH, makes hardwork out of the likes of Allen, Hammer and Kaufman etc. Only looked notably any good against Wilder until he gets knocked out but so did Spzilka and he got handled by Chisora. Pretty baseless to suggest Ortiz can do anything Povetkin can.

What did Ortiz do to make him better or even on the same level as Povetkin? Nothing. You're going to base an entire argument around resume instead of form so we're just wasting more time here.

That's cool man. If you think Povetkin is knocking Whyte out but Ortiz isn't then idk what to tell you. What did Ortiz do to make him better or even on the same level as Povetkin?

I'd love to see Povetkin/Ortiz, I'm really not sure how that one goesIt's good 'un, possibly the best sub-elite level fight to make, which is kinda sad when you think about it given both of 'em are almost pensioners. Either vs Ruiz works too, if Andy can lay off the tacos for a few months.

Reedeemer is a stupid queer Quoted for facts.

Chisora at least had one world title shot on WBC belt.

I'd love to see Povetkin/Ortiz, I'm really not sure how that one goes

Certainly* Oh, and Reedeemer is a stupid queer

And that's pretty good for UK standards. A LOT better than most. He throws a lot of punches and has a good, long jab. The guy talked a lot of shit and just isn't on the level they thought he was. He's not as bad as some people make him out to be and is always fun to watch. But please, let's never, ever act like he's better than Wilder or Ortiz ever again. Ever.Thank you this the best post I've read today. You are absolutely right and I approve this message :beerchug: