Pacquiao/Marquez/Bradley were never true welterweights

Bradley was bigger than Pac and Marquez who were never really bigger than lightweights naturally but good enough to fight above their natural weight. Bradley turn pro as a lean muscular 140 so he was big at 140 and a bit small at 147 but not that small.

Agree. Both Pac and JMM had fought over 50X before fighting above 140. Common sense tells you that doesn't happen if you're a "natural WW"

In other words, water is wet. Green sent for the most relevant post on this thread

Pac was scared to fight Cotto without a handicap

This is dumb many always had the power and skill too compete with bigger guys he was naturally a ww If so, why he fought Cotto at 144?

Pacquiao, Bradley, Marquez were /are all too small for 147. Pacquiao is obviously the best of them, that is why he had some success at that weight. Still, he needed a catchweight at 144 to beat Cotto. Pacquiao`s best true welterweight wins are Thurman and Clottey. Bradley only beat Marquez, got gifted decision fighting Pacquiao. He also beat a gatekeeper Vargas. Marquez stopped Pacquiao badly, gave him some other good fights, but he lost all rounds against true welterweight Mayweather. This is dumb many always had the power and skill too compete with bigger guys he was naturally a ww

It's a "number of fights at that weight division" vs "how much you rehydrate over 147" argument. Some people would argue that Pac is a "true" welterweight because he had many fights at that weight class. Other people would argue that he's not a "true" welterweight because he never rehydrated much higher than the weight limit by the night of the fight--which is unlike other welterweights who weigh much higher than 147 on fight night unless there is a rehydration clause.

Absolute nonsense. Pacquiao was weighing mid 140s on fight night when he was at 130. He's spent over 11 years at WW and no more than a few at other weights. He's a WW. Yeah but most welterweights today rehydrate to high 150s or even mid 160s. He walks around at like 150. Can’t think of another WW today that does that

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