Every time I rewatch it, every time Wallin looks worse and worse. he cut Fury in the third round, I believe. After that he had Fury badly hurt in 6th and 12th round. He was unable to close the show, elite hw would do that. Even on his worst fighting evening Fury clearly won 9-3 or 10-2 in rounds.
Wallin will need much more to prove he is a decent heavyweight.
I notice you got a picture of Fury on your profile there so not sure if your comment is just because it's about Fury because Klitschko wanted to continue against Lewis and Granados wanted to continue against Garcia, if you think the ref should have let those go on too then I guess you just don't want there to be a ref at all but there is one and since he's in there it isn't just to call the end of the rounds, he's there to ensure as best he can that the fighter's stay safe, don't get me wrong, Howard Foster stopping George Groves was a joke, but the cuts over Fury's eye were too severe imo
Personally I would always leave the decision to the fighter and that includes both of the fights you mentioned, a boxer knows what he’s getting into when he gets in the ring and if he wants to carry then it’s on him. However that’s just my opinion, and I do understand and respect what your saying.
Any half decent fighter who got Fury in that position would have finished him or the fight off..
You have to give credit to Furys corner for keeping him together and to Fury to continue to box wallins ears off while brutally damaged...
This is the fight game, not a tickling contest, Fury wanted to carry on so I don’t see what the issue is tbh.
I notice you got a picture of Fury on your profile there so not sure if your comment is just because it's about Fury because Klitschko wanted to continue against Lewis and Granados wanted to continue against Garcia, if you think the ref should have let those go on too then I guess you just don't want there to be a ref at all but there is one and since he's in there it isn't just to call the end of the rounds, he's there to ensure as best he can that the fighter's stay safe, don't get me wrong, Howard Foster stopping George Groves was a joke, but the cuts over Fury's eye were too severe imo
I hear you but I don't think that should form any part of the decision making process for the referee. Remember when Richard Steele stopped Taylor with SECONDS to go in the 12th? It wasn't his job to check how much time was left in the round and I don't think the referee or doctor should consider anything else other than where is the cut and how bad is it, remember, Fury was cut early on, it was the first half of the fight if I remember rightly so there was no way to claim he was dominating or would continue to dominate for the remainder of the fight, he could of went blind and then the same referee who is being praised for not stopping it would be the victim of all kinds of hate mail.
This is the fight game, not a tickling contest, Fury wanted to carry on so I don’t see what the issue is tbh.
That is what I am talking about. Fury was dominant man in that fight regardless the cut. That`s why it wasn`t stopped.
I hear you but I don't think that should form any part of the decision making process for the referee. Remember when Richard Steele stopped Taylor with SECONDS to go in the 12th? It wasn't his job to check how much time was left in the round and I don't think the referee or doctor should consider anything else other than where is the cut and how bad is it, remember, Fury was cut early on, it was the first half of the fight if I remember rightly so there was no way to claim he was dominating or would continue to dominate for the remainder of the fight, he could of went blind and then the same referee who is being praised for not stopping it would be the victim of all kinds of hate mail.
When Fury on front foot starts throwing like in Wilder rematch, he stops Joshua. Joshua is Bruno 2.0.
Joshua was badly stopped by small fat Ruiz. your talking out your arse clueless....he couldn’t KO even after all the punches he landed... wilder has no core strength and he was outweighed by 35lbs.....stop talking about the wilder as he left him uncontious on the floor ...he didn’t and he was still standing.
Your an idiot
And who won in Cunningham fight?
So, Fury is such a great fighter you are giving other guys a credit for dropping him.
I’m telling if smaller guys can get to him and drop him so can Ruiz and if your too thick to understand that then I can’t help you
When Joshua starts landing consistently with his power shots he stops fury...J
When Fury on front foot starts throwing like in Wilder rematch, he stops Joshua. Joshua is Bruno 2.0.
Joshua was badly stopped by small fat Ruiz.
fury is 2 inches taller than Joshua , he is not 6ft 9 and say that to mike Tyson when he chopped big boxers down......yeah he has the reach for sure but we’ve seen fury get clipped and you seem to forget that Cunningham dropped him and he’s just over 6ft....stop this bull**** size talk because if your technically good you can negate that ....have you ever boxed lol
And who won in Cunningham fight?
So, Fury is such a great fighter you are giving other guys a credit for dropping him.
All i get from the wallin fight is high volume vs low volume. fury is well equipped for low volume guys like wilder and vlad. i can't see him getting past joshua and whyte in back to back fight. they won't be walking around like vlad and wilder looking for one punch. it will be body work, undercuts, hooks up the a$$ for 12 solid rounds. styles make fights
When Joshua starts landing consistently with his power shots he stops fury...Joshua is consistent and accurate power puncher who will do damage and fury will get broken down and stopped....Whyte not so sure as he lacks real technical sklll to set fury up and damage him.
I say Joshua but not Whyte
Listen.
There's no conspiracy theory when it comes to Whyte, there's a reason why Fury and his team want AJ next.
A) They're very confident they'll win.
B) They will make a stupid amount of money
This game is all about the £££ of course it’s about money but it’s also about fulllfilling your duties as a champion plain and simple and there is no way fury can avoid it or he vacates or get stripped.
You’ve not been long enough to see when Tyson was forced to give up his belt because he didn’t want to fight Lewis and wanted an easy touch in Bruce seldon.....fury has to honour that mando plain and simple
Wallin is huge compared to Ruiz. Fury beats all smaller guys. fury is 2 inches taller than Joshua , he is not 6ft 9 and say that to mike Tyson when he chopped big boxers down......yeah he has the reach for sure but we’ve seen fury get clipped and you seem to forget that Cunningham dropped him and he’s just over 6ft....stop this bull**** size talk because if your technically good you can negate that ....have you ever boxed lol
Wallin got too much credit for the Fury fight really, he won like 2 rounds and the cut was just one of those lucky fluke things. He failed to capitalize on the credit hes been getting too considering that fight was a ****ing year ago and hes only returning now to fight a bum. He could have leveraged that Fury situation into something higher profile.
going by the wallin fight he would do....so if it’s an off night for fury surely Joshua could well have had an off night also and I would bet my house on Ruiz knocking out wallin inside 5 rounds for sure
Wallin is huge compared to Ruiz. Fury beats all smaller guys.
Listen.
There's no conspiracy theory when it comes to Whyte, there's a reason why Fury and his team want AJ next.
A) They're very confident they'll win.
B) They will make a stupid amount of money
This game is all about the £££
All i get from the wallin fight is high volume vs low volume. fury is well equipped for low volume guys like wilder and vlad. i can't see him getting past joshua and whyte in back to back fight. they won't be walking around like vlad and wilder looking for one punch. it will be body work, undercuts, hooks up the a$$ for 12 solid rounds. styles make fights
Whyte nor Joshua are high volume output guys. Their engine isn’t great to be honest. But I don’t think Team Fury wants to fight Whyte on the back of Wilder nor do I think they want to fight Whyte then Joshua.
I think they want to pick an easier opponent then fight a tough fight. Like they did with Tom Schwartz and Otto then Wilder. You cannot be taking tough fights after fights. Personally I think if the Wilder fight doesn’t happen, he should drop the belt, then take a soft fight, then see if Joshua would fight him.
I say that because if he drops the belt and Whyte picks it then AJ might go after the Whyte rematch.
No, not everyone rates him as a clear #1. Infact majority of pundits who do rate him as #1 don’t make it me it a clear gap at all , Joshua record overall is far superior and therefore they need to match up.
Which two fights do you think give him the best two wins? I mean he has only fought Klitschko and wilder so presume you are referring to those two?
Some may consider those the best but I don’t, in my opinion Klitschko was in far better shape - or at least performed far better - against AJ.
Wilder is another I’ve never really rated as highly as many on here, is he any better than a Parker, Povetkin, Whyte? At the moment he could be, but we still don’t know.
And that's my big issue with Fury. At his best he's proven he can be great. But can he consistently beat top 10 guys? Don't know. He's only ever fought two.
In a one off fight against the guys on Joshua's resume, I'd pick Fury. But would I pick him to beat them all? Not convinced, he's an up and down type of character.
Great isn't winning two big fights. That's Riddick Bowe levels of greatness and is about as highly as Fury should be rated.
All i get from the wallin fight is high volume vs low volume. fury is well equipped for low volume guys like wilder and vlad. i can't see him getting past joshua and whyte in back to back fight. they won't be walking around like vlad and wilder looking for one punch. it will be body work, undercuts, hooks up the a$$ for 12 solid rounds. styles make fights
Agree that opinion/hype swings around too much based upon latest performance, but you're going too far in the other direction to say the first Chisora fight proves anything about how good Fury is now or where he should be ranked. He has the best 2 wins in the divison of the past decade, surely everyone rates him as the clear #1
No, not everyone rates him as a clear #1. Infact majority of pundits who do rate him as #1 don’t make it me it a clear gap at all , Joshua record overall is far superior and therefore they need to match up.
Which two fights do you think give him the best two wins? I mean he has only fought Klitschko and wilder so presume you are referring to those two?
Some may consider those the best but I don’t, in my opinion Klitschko was in far better shape - or at least performed far better - against AJ.
Wilder is another I’ve never really rated as highly as many on here, is he any better than a Parker, Povetkin, Whyte? At the moment he could be, but we still don’t know.