terrence "dud" crawford

Neither Spence nor Crawford have enough clout to dictate to their promotion I don't agree with you here bro..I think both have enough clout to get it done..Hell even Garcia I think could pull it off..

I think maybe your misunderstanding me..I agree Bob and Al are going to watch out for their bottom line..Yet again fighters have a lot of power..Esp top level fighters..That is my only point..They all need to start exercising it so we can get great fights..Not to mention they can put their names in the history books.. Your right tho we do not have to agree,I appreciate your chill nature in debating this tho.. Neither Spence nor Crawford have enough clout to dictate to their promotion

its obvious i wont change your mind...i respectfully disagree 100 percent do you think bob arum had nothing to do with fury waiting another year before rematching wilder?....you dont have to answer....because i know were not going to see eye to eye on this so its all good I think maybe your misunderstanding me..I agree Bob and Al are going to watch out for their bottom line..Yet again fighters have a lot of power..Esp top level fighters..That is my only point..They all need to start exercising it so we can get great fights..Not to mention they can put their names in the history books.. Your right tho we do not have to agree,I appreciate your chill nature in debating this tho..

Again we are in a different time,if Spence pushed to fight Crawford the fight will get done..No doubt in my mind..The same goes for Thurman,and Garcia.. It's time for fighters to make it happen..I've been following boxing for a very long time son..I know the politics,I also know that the fighters hold a lot of sway and power as well.. Again it's up to the fighters to make the best decision for themselves..For Crawford that was resigning with TR..That has no bearing on if he wants to fight the other WW or not..One literally has nothing to do with the other.. its obvious i wont change your mind...i respectfully disagree 100 percent do you think bob arum had nothing to do with fury waiting another year before rematching wilder?....you dont have to answer....because i know were not going to see eye to eye on this so its all good

oh it most certainly is about al and bob...absolutely...your comment is detached from reality and borderline delusional if you think that haymon and bobs agendas dont play a part in who fights who and who doesnt fight who you are kidding yourself when haymon and bob need each other(fury/wilder) the fight gets done....the HW division is weak and devoid of big names...they had 2 of the top 3 names and they made 2 fights when haymon has a deep stable of WWs he can match against each other against he and bob dont make fights when haymon can get danny jacobs 13 mil and chenko 6 mil and ruiz big money over at DAZN he lets them go...when he has other plans theres no way hes going to let his big fish cross that pond they all operate that way bob "floyd wants me to do an oscar fight...i cant do it..ill lose money"....thats what drives these guys Again we are in a different time,if Spence pushed to fight Crawford the fight will get done..No doubt in my mind..The same goes for Thurman,and Garcia.. It's time for fighters to make it happen..I've been following boxing for a very long time son..I know the politics,I also know that the fighters hold a lot of sway and power as well.. Again it's up to the fighters to make the best decision for themselves..For Crawford that was resigning with TR..That has no bearing on if he wants to fight the other WW or not..One literally has nothing to do with the other..

Again it's not about Al or Bob.. It's about the fighters themselves making this happen.. oh it most certainly is about al and bob...absolutely...your comment is detached from reality and borderline delusional if you think that haymon and bobs agendas dont play a part in who fights who and who doesnt fight who you are kidding yourself when haymon and bob need each other(fury/wilder) the fight gets done....the HW division is weak and devoid of big names...they had 2 of the top 3 names and they made 2 fights when haymon has a deep stable of WWs he can match against each other against he and bob dont make fights when haymon can get danny jacobs 13 mil and chenko 6 mil and ruiz big money over at DAZN he lets them go...when he has other plans theres no way hes going to let his big fish cross that pond they all operate that way bob "floyd wants me to do an oscar fight...i cant do it..ill lose money"....thats what drives these guys

if al haymon had crawford....and bob arum had the Pbc roster of WW's do you think arum would be making fights in house or dying to let crawford fight his guys? Again it's not about Al or Bob.. It's about the fighters themselves making this happen..

What does where Crawford signed have to do with it??Guys should be making Al get them the Crawford fight,no??..Garcia or Thurman should have been fought Crawford and pushed to have that fight made by their promotion.. if al haymon had crawford....and bob arum had the Pbc roster of WW's do you think arum would be making fights in house or dying to let crawford fight his guys?

Yes. That is correct. Was Fury ducking Wilder or Joshua when he signed with ESPN? I am sure Bob told him he could make the fights happen. Terence might have made a mistake trusting him....but I don't think anyone in their right mind thinks Bud doesn't want to fight Spence or Pac....

So Crawford resigned with Top Rank knowing every other relevant welter was with PBC but they have avoided him? Really? What does where Crawford signed have to do with it??Guys should be making Al get them the Crawford fight,no??..Garcia or Thurman should have been fought Crawford and pushed to have that fight made by their promotion..

So Crawford resigned with Top Rank knowing every other relevant welter was with PBC but they have avoided him? Really? What does where Crawford signed have to do with it??Guys should be making Al get them the Crawford fight,no??..Garcia or Thurman should have been fought Crawford and pushed to have that fight made by their promotion..

Guy on the right is Crawford, bro. Or do you mean LEFT? That's 'Mile High' Mike Alvarado. :rofl: LOL, Yeah that's what I meant the left Mike Alvarado. Is he still an active fighter? I haven't seen him in years? I hardly recognized him. What a funny joke? :lol1:

GGG was allowed to fight plenty of lower level guys before people called him out. Let's give Bud the same leeway.

Well if you are trying to call out 'PBC haters' and not Bud himself, you prob shouldn't start off by calling him "dud." Fact is, he is a force and the other champs have avoided him so they can make as much money as they can before facing him in a 50/50. Which is cool. I'm fine with it. But that don't make Crawford a dud by no means. So Crawford resigned with Top Rank knowing every other relevant welter was with PBC but they have avoided him? Really?

Well if you are trying to call out 'PBC haters' and not Bud himself, you prob shouldn't start off by calling him "dud." Fact is, he is a force and the other champs have avoided him so they can make as much money as they can before facing him in a 50/50. Which is cool. I'm fine with it. But that don't make Crawford a dud by no means.

that crash fcked his face up. He cant even spar. he wont be the same. and when he loses the first excuse out his mouth will be the accident If he has a solid mouth. A big Spence fan here but I share your sentiments. I felt sorry when I saw his face last. Maybe he should fight an exhibition before a real fight. I have this vision and it's not that good. Hope Spence recovers fully within the next couple years.

that crash fcked his face up. He cant even spar. he wont be the same. and when he loses the first excuse out his mouth will be the accident Again, a lot of speculation on your part. Forgive me if I prefer to see Spence fight before declaring his career over.

I agree, Bud is my favourite fighter along with Loma, just hope Bud can get the big fights that he needs. Koba/Curt was quite entertaining aswell. Wonder who will get the knockout blow. lol. I don't wanna see the KO!:lol1:

due to spence car accident i lost interest in crawford vs spence smh. that near death crashed changed erroll for good and cut his prime short. thats the risks u take when marinating. Spence hasn't fought since the accident and yet you know all this to be true? Getting a little ahead of yourself aren't?

let me start of by saying i like bud...hes excellent.... but i do have a problem...mostly with the people who defend him while bashing the "pbc" fighters...you can defend bud...im ok with that...but are you going to bash "pbc fighters" while doing so? bruh...shawn porter has 6 guys on his resume that are legit BETTER than crawford BEST WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stop that!!!!!!!! I don't think you can blame Bud for not putting his body on the line for fights that are not big ones at this point..Yes I'll agree with you, Porter would be a solid fight..Yet fights against Thurman, Spence,Garcia,Pac would all be better bigger fights..Bottom line is I really hope to see those fights soon..