Carl Froch always slandering Joe Calzaghe and Andre Ward, but he ain't in their class

he had a better career than calzaghe and ward has a better resume but its a giant asterik with all the cheating and political favoritism he received. ward is the houston astros of boxing and calzaghe is just some minor league team that won all its games against little leaugers

it is a fact that Froch was Joes next mandated SMW opponent, and Joe chose not to turn up for the fight. He left he division hoping to cherry pick a 43 year instead, hoping on that name being nearly shot. Froch would have been the tougher fight. Facing an uninjured Kessler in Denmark would have been as tough too, he was screaming for his rematch after his hand surgery. There is no other way of putting this than direct avoidance of a tough fight. It is the pattern of Joes whole career. Frochs is the polar opposite. - -Froch a fine career obviously cursed with the Tubsy Lar, Lewis gross inferiority complexes. They feel inferior for a reason.

He's just one of those chip-on-his-shoulder kinda guys. Was not in Calzaghe and Ward's league, but he was a great champion. It's funny, he and Ward hate each other but they have the exact same personality: always negative, always complaining. You'd think they'd be best friends. You are absolutely spot on about Ward and Froch 😂

This I agree. He wouldn't so much as face a naturally smaller man in Gennady Golovkin at a 168 lbs for fear of being chinned by him. Had that fight been offered to either Calazghe or Ward they wouldn't have so much as hesitated at the chance of fighting him at Super middleweight. For example, Andre Ward was never offered the opportunity to fight Lil' G at 168. .

Ward beat him by a good amount and i think Calzaghe would beat Ward and Froch. Joe had fast hands, a high punch rate per round and great boxing skill on offense and defense. this is the thing, with joe its always "would have" not did.

Froch has always been a salty guy. In retirement he's gotten worse. He was never on the same level as Calzaghe.

He's just one of those chip-on-his-shoulder kinda guys. Was not in Calzaghe and Ward's league, but he was a great champion. It's funny, he and Ward hate each other but they have the exact same personality: always negative, always complaining. You'd think they'd be best friends.

Calzaghe overrated IMO. His best wins are Kessler, old Roy Jones and old Hopkins. Okay but BHop went on to great things and Kessler and Roy were still good wins. Shame we never got Froch but nobody besides Ali and SRR fights them all

He does that to everyone, Froch can be vindictive. He beats Groves twice and he still can’t get over the trash talk that groves put on him. Yeah. Froch was fun but christ is he sour

Joe avoiding Carl is one of the biggest myths in boxing it is a fact that Froch was Joes next mandated SMW opponent, and Joe chose not to turn up for the fight. He left he division hoping to cherry pick a 43 year instead, hoping on that name being nearly shot. Froch would have been the tougher fight. Facing an uninjured Kessler in Denmark would have been as tough too, he was screaming for his rematch after his hand surgery. There is no other way of putting this than direct avoidance of a tough fight. It is the pattern of Joes whole career. Frochs is the polar opposite.

Calzaghe overrated IMO. His best wins are Kessler, old Roy Jones and old Hopkins.

I personally believe froch would have bust calzaghe up Calzaghe was a good fighter but he was not unbeatable and his record is terrible Byron almost knocked him out Eubank was finished like 2 years before calzaghe fought him Lacy was one of the biggest hype jobs in the whole history of boxing Roy was done years before he fought him If you score the Hopkins fight theres no way you end up with calzaghe winning Robin reid showed Joe's level Kessler was a good win but that's it Agreed, Calzaghe's only decent win was Kessler imo. Froch fought world class competition for years on end and came out the other side with a decent amount of wins. I think Froch would beat Calzaghe.

I personally believe froch would have bust calzaghe up Calzaghe was a good fighter but he was not unbeatable and his record is terrible Byron almost knocked him out Eubank was finished like 2 years before calzaghe fought him Lacy was one of the biggest hype jobs in the whole history of boxing Roy was done years before he fought him If you score the Hopkins fight theres no way you end up with calzaghe winning Robin reid showed Joe's level Kessler was a good win but that's it

Agreed. Froch is a great warrior but skill wise, he is nowhere near being on the level of an Andre Ward or a Joe Calzaghe.

I remember fighting Carl Froch in the final of the Super Six. “The first two or three punches he threw, I was shocked. I had to adjust to how slow he was. That is a savage comment hahaha

Agree or disagree? Joe Calzaghe and Andre Ward @ 168 would be a mythical super fight. Carl Froch meanwhile is a crude slugger, a real blood and guts, gritty, huff and puffer. He just does not have the boxing brain and skillset to ever, in 100 attempts, come close to matching Calzaghe or Ward. Is there anyone here who thinks otherwise? I could do with a laugh.Ward beat him by a good amount and i think Calzaghe would beat Ward and Froch. Joe had fast hands, a high punch rate per round and great boxing skill on offense and defense.

Froch, despite losses, had a better career and has more fans than Calzaghe. Calzaghe’s 0 will be picked apart as the decades go by and he will be reduced to just a guy with a couple of good wins who could have been better. He refused to take risks outside of Kessler and Bika. He also “beat” Hopkins while barely landing clean punches on him. He also ducked fighters who called him out that honestly, he probably would have beaten. Froch, Dawson, Glen Johnson. Those 3 publicly called him out and he ducked them all in favor of Jones. And he only fought Hopkins because of his age, he thought it would be easy. After the fight though, he ducked a rematch, he saw the old man still had something in the tank especially after seeing him upset Pavlik. Froch will go down as someone who fought all the major players around his division. Calzaghe went down safely with his 0 while not really proving how good he is. And imo, he was VERY good. I am upset he didn’t add more names to his resume though. I won’t sit here and make believe I was not a Calzaghe fan, I was and I actually put some friends on to him around 2005-2007. His career/resume was just so underwhelming.

out of the three, the one who can claim is above them with clarity is Ward, who outdid them both emphatically. regarding joe and carl, I guess joe avoiding facing Carl means something but its not conclusive. Once Carl beat Kessler he was at least on par with Joe, though his resume is a lot deeper than joes. SO es probably ahead all things considered. Joe was good, but he only has himself to blame for not proving it like the others did. He had the opportunities handed to him to prove he was better than froch, by facing him, or by facing uninjured kessler in a rematch in denmark, but he ran from both opportunities. So the questions remain, not so with the others. Joe avoiding Carl is one of the biggest myths in boxing Carl Froch was still fighting in the British title fights at domestic level when Joe had cleaned out and moved up a division. Froch never fought in at world level fight until Joe had retired. Froch’s first world level fight was for Joes vacant title that he about a year earlier before moving up. I think Joe had retired a few weeks before that fight and been out of the 168 division for a year. Their careers barely crossed paths. the best comparison would be Usyk moving up to heavyweight and people saying he ducked Lawrence Okolie. That’s exactly the stages of their careers both were at. I’m sure Carl was high in the rankings and would’ve become a mandatory at some point but that doesn’t mean he was ducked because the reality is they were at completely different stages of their career and not even in the same division by the time Froch got to fight at world level.

out of the three, the one who can claim is above them with clarity is Ward, who outdid them both emphatically. regarding joe and carl, I guess joe avoiding facing Carl means something but its not conclusive. Once Carl beat Kessler he was at least on par with Joe, though his resume is a lot deeper than joes. SO es probably ahead all things considered. Joe was good, but he only has himself to blame for not proving it like the others did. He had the opportunities handed to him to prove he was better than froch, by facing him, or by facing uninjured kessler in a rematch in denmark, but he ran from both opportunities. So the questions remain, not so with the others.

Boxing brain . I beg to differ.... Froch had charisma ,iq and toughness with a granite chin and some heavy hands. He lacked speed and quickness so there are only so many style you can use without speed and quickness. But Froch definitely had a gopd boxing brain . He went all 12 rounds and was a threat every second. Notice how calzaghe and ward got away with their styles with the right ref and judges. Those things matter Charisma? Froch spent over half his career struggling to get his fights aired in the UK. :lol1: Are you related to Froch? Your slandering the best Super Middleweights sounds very Froch-ish. :lol1: