Wilder is utter garbage, and really doesn't do much for Fury's resume.
After Wlad his boxrec is just Sefer Seferi's, Schwartz, Pianeta, Wallin types. He got a robbery of a decision against John McDermott - he lost that fight.
Please stop with the Muhammad Ali comparisons lol.
Fury will duck Whyte and AJ and the reason is obvious to anyone with eyes in their head: He will be soundly beaten by either.
The WBC is a corrupt pile of ****. Why do boxing fans not call out dudes who duck, like Wilder did for years and now Fury will be made their bs franchise champ so he can duck.
Fans actually WANT these fights to happen, and don't applaud when the sport is rife with corruption and collusion.
Lol what a ******ed question you moron. He beat prime Wilder. This win alone ****s all over anything joshua ever achieved. lol beating some b level fighters and 2 grandpas. Wilder was ranked the number 1 HW at the time, or at worst number 2. And Fury beat the **** out of him.
Wilder is, and always has been, a product of hype. When hype jobs lose like that, we call it "being exposed".
He did indeed, Fury had to fight and win 3 title eliminators before earning his shot at Wlad, a lot of people forget that.
Fury was widely predicted to lose to Chisora the first time, he was predicted to lose the McDermott rematch as well. I wonder how many times AJ or Whyte has gone into a fight as the underdog?
OP calls Wilder garbage, yet he predicted him to KO Fury in both fights? lol
I did not predict Wilder to win. You are Donald Trump, just saying stuff out of a lying mouth.
To be fair to Fury, if you consider before his three-year absence and before the Wladimir fight, who was actually around in the division?
The landscape apart from Wlad was guys guys like Chisora, Povetkin, Haye Arreola etc.
well he signed to fight Haye twice and Haye pulled out. He beat Chisora twice beat the other average contenders like Cunningham, Johnson etc.
Wasn’t really much about for him to fight before the Wlad fight, Which is the reason Wlad doesn’t get much credit for his resume because there wasn’t much about for him either.
Guys like AJ , Wilder, Whyte, Ortiz came to the top of the division while Fury was out and since he came back he beat one of them twice and took the belt and is Fighting another one of them next year for his belts
Lol what a ******ed question you moron. He beat prime Wilder. This win alone ****s all over anything joshua ever achieved. lol beating some b level fighters and 2 grandpas. Wilder was ranked the number 1 HW at the time, or at worst number 2. And Fury beat the **** out of him.
Wrong on both counts. Crap post, and Fury passed every test for Wlad. It was Hammer he failed for. Obviously he couldn't beat the greatest of them all Christian Hammer without juicing. It's Hammer time.
Wrong. Fury tested positive for first Wladimir fight but they moved the results to the Hammer fight.
Wilder is utter garbage, and really doesn't do much for Fury's resume.
After Wlad his boxrec is just Sefer Seferi's, Schwartz, Pianeta, Wallin types. He got a robbery of a decision against John McDermott - he lost that fight.
Please stop with the Muhammad Ali comparisons lol.
Fury will duck Whyte and AJ and the reason is obvious to anyone with eyes in their head: He will be soundly beaten by either.
The WBC is a corrupt pile of ****. Why do boxing fans not call out dudes who duck, like Wilder did for years and now Fury will be made their bs franchise champ so he can duck.
Fans actually WANT these fights to happen, and don't applaud when the sport is rife with corruption and collusion.
Wilder
Cunningham
Chisora
Hammer
Wallin
Undefeated champions, undefeated contenders, reigning champions and former champions.
Try again boyo.
When you break it down, he has a pretty decent resume for HW standards imo.
For example, when he fought Kevin Johnson, at the time, a win over Fury would've given him a title shot against Klitschko, and thus he turned up motivated and came to win.
He wasn't the Kevin Johnson of today who just turns up for a payday.
Pajik was another one, very tough dude who came to win.
AJ and Whyte may well have more "names" on their resume, but they were always clear favourites to win and fought most of them at the right time.
Fury has been in 50/50 fights, fighting against fully grown experienced men when he was still a kid. And this is one of the reasons Fury has improved so much, he's had to work for it.
Let's not forget he should have haye ok his list aswell
And he battered takam behind closed doors
I picked chisora to win the rematch to be fair but he had nothing for him
That was when I first saw tyson was a bit special
When you break it down, he has a pretty decent resume for HW standards imo.
For example, when he fought Kevin Johnson, at the time, a win over Fury would've given him a title shot against Klitschko, and thus he turned up motivated and came to win.
He wasn't the Kevin Johnson of today who just turns up for a payday.
Pajik was another one, very tough dude who came to win.
AJ and Whyte may well have more "names" on their resume, but they were always clear favourites to win and fought most of them at the right time.
Fury has been in 50/50 fights, fighting against fully grown experienced men when he was still a kid. And this is one of the reasons Fury has improved so much, he's had to work for it.
He did indeed, Fury had to fight and win 3 title eliminators before earning his shot at Wlad, a lot of people forget that.
Fury was widely predicted to lose to Chisora the first time, he was predicted to lose the McDermott rematch as well. I wonder how many times AJ or Whyte has gone into a fight as the underdog?
OP calls Wilder garbage, yet he predicted him to KO Fury in both fights? lol
I picked chisora to win the rematch to be fair but he had nothing for him
That was when I first saw tyson was a bit special
He earned his shot by getting a gift win over delboy and a gift win over parker via a headbutt KD? And then beating rivas via dianabol?
Cant forget that incredable KO over lucas browne who was on anti depressants at the time and according to hatton, didnt train for the fight.
Wach and helenuis were also awe inspiring wins.
Incredible stuff.
:lol1: :lol1:
Chisora is most probably his best opponent and he beat him with ease X2
Even went southpaw on him for most of one of the fights think it was the rematch
And before anybody calls chisora crap it was a match to determine who would fight wlad
Tyson worked his way wlad the proper way and earned his spot....unlike some
He did indeed, Fury had to fight and win 3 title eliminators before earning his shot at Wlad, a lot of people forget that.
Fury was widely predicted to lose to Chisora the first time, he was predicted to lose the McDermott rematch as well. I wonder how many times AJ or Whyte has gone into a fight as the underdog?
OP calls Wilder garbage, yet he predicted him to KO Fury in both fights? lol
Wilder is utter garbage, and really doesn't do much for Fury's resume.
After Wlad his boxrec is just Sefer Seferi's, Schwartz, Pianeta, Wallin types. He got a robbery of a decision against John McDermott - he lost that fight.
Please stop with the Muhammad Ali comparisons lol.
Fury will duck Whyte and AJ and the reason is obvious to anyone with eyes in their head: He will be soundly beaten by either.
The WBC is a corrupt pile of ****. Why do boxing fans not call out dudes who duck, like Wilder did for years and now Fury will be made their bs franchise champ so he can duck.
Fans actually WANT these fights to happen, and don't applaud when the sport is rife with corruption and collusion.Wilder was a good win and so was his stoppage of .Chisora. I think he probably beats both AJ and Whyte but those are good fights that he could lose as well. He will probably fight one or both of them eventually unless he retires.
Of Joshua's last 6 fights 5 have been against current or former world champions. He has also beaten Whyte and that is a very good win.
Compare to Wilder and Fury....not even close to the same quality of opponents.
Joshua and Whyte want to fight the best, Wilder and Fury and the WBC want to feed us garbage matches. Why settle for that? Why support that?
Now....if the WBC doesn't elevate Fury to franchise ducking position then if we are kucky as fans it might go like this.
Fury and AJ both win their next fights.
Fury V Whyte
AJ V Wilder
Winners fight for unified.
I'm not holding my breath like, Wilder is not man enough mentally to take another defeat and carry on, and even if he does he don't want anything to do with Joshua, that is crystal clear.
That's too long for my liking.. I think the HW scene is slowly going stale...
I want whoever holds the belts to go straight for a unification after Wilder/Pulev..
I'd be surprised if Wilder recovers to win his next fight although it's not impossible..
If Pulev beat AJ I'd have it as a bigger shock than Ruiz downing him...