Are Pacquiao and GGG the only two fighters who can get away with cherrypicking....

Pac was more of a cherrypicker than Floyd. Go look at his resume since 2008 and count how many guys weren't champs when pac fought them, or recently lost, or coming off of bad performances, etc. This is all FACTS If u take your emotions outta it... Manny had more fights with astericks than Floyd. Facts. But comparing Pac to GGG is blasphemy. It takes away from all the legendary things Manny did in his career. GGG wish he could have half the accomplishments Manny has Facts

Wtf If Manny is a cherry picker ham Floyd is the king of cherry picking Manny faced and beaten everyone Never mention ggg in the same sentence as Manny. Pac was more of a cherrypicker than Floyd. Go look at his resume since 2008 and count how many guys weren't champs when pac fought them, or recently lost, or coming off of bad performances, etc. This is all FACTS

Wtf If Manny is a cherry picker ham Floyd is the king of cherry picking Manny faced and beaten everyone Never mention ggg in the same sentence as Manny. Manny has some cherries for sure. But he has prime guys on his resume as well. And he dominated some of those prime guys. So manny is never on trial. I just like to call it how it is. Now GGG is what you call a cherry picker

Oscar picked the weight. It wasn't a cherry. I could have nitpicked the rest of the list, like how Horn was a mandatory, or how Rios was a comeback fight after getting KTFO but I really don't care. Horn who you never heard of and had no notable fight, let alone a notable win. Yea ok bro. Pac hadnt been fighting mandatories. So why horn? Because it was supposed to be easy money in Australia. Cherry gone wrong Rios just loss to alvarado. Pac picking rios instead of the man that beat rios makes that a cherry pick. Fighting matthysse for a secondary wba belt when he could have fought any champion at 147 considering he is the ultimate A side in boxing equals a cherry pick Shane mosley. Was coming off a shutout loss and a draw. When pacquiao finally decided to fight him. Cherry pick Call a spade a spade. Is manny the truth? Hell yea. I clearly gave him his props on my original post. Naming the guys that werent cherries during his 147 run. But we not gonna act like these werent cherry picks. Be objective

Roach thought Pacquiao would win so it’s a cherry pick? That’s the stupidest f**king thing I’ve ever heard. I never mentioned what weight De La Hoya and Mayweather fought at because it’s irrelevant. It was a split decision where no card was wider than 115-113. Mayweather was a top 3 p4p fighter, has never lost and was named the best fighter of the last decade. You can’t claim De La Hoya was shot after that fight. Again, Freddie Roach being confident in his fighter does not make it a cherry pick. I didn’t say Sturm was an elite fighter. You’re pretending that fight was evidence of De La Hoya being shot. I’m pointing out that he was fighting above his weight class against someone who won five different titles at middleweight and super middleweight. Also, De La Hoya won the fight. So how are we going to use him fighting above his weight class and beating a five time champion as evidence that he’s shot? You can’t because that’s insane. Felix Sturm did beat Javier Castellijo, a three time world champion in two different weight classes. He beat others too but this is the best evidence that your point that he hasn’t beaten anyone ever is insane. I like how you dropped your point on the Forbes fight after I pointed out it was a shut out. I never said Pacquiao was a cherry pick for Oscar. It was a super fight. All of the other names you mentioned aren’t really cherry picks either. I destroyed that notion in a reply to someone else. I’ll make sure to copy it and reply to you so you can find it easily. Nobody thought the forbes fight was a shutout but you. Not one person said oscar looked good after that fight. And a shutout means you were dominant. Oscar wasnt. So stop And who the hell did the great javier castillijo beat while winning 3 titles? The answer is Nobody. So again save the ****. Sturm beat nobody and you saying otherwise lets me know that you know nothing about boxing. He beat others too? What others? The great sam soliman. Or maybe the great Sebastian Sylvester. Man please. Oscar was shot. Plain and simple. He never fought again and he told you why out of his own mouth in the post fight interview. "My heart still wants to fight. But my body doesnt respond" He was gonna lose to anybody at 147 in 2008. Pac just was at the right place at the right time. That was supposed to be floyd kicking Oscar ass at 147 in 2008. And everybody would have said it was easy money and they would have been right.

as with most Pacquiao threads, some of the comments are ridiculous every top welter would have been beaten 145lb Hoya, so would every top junior welter two pound Forbes probably beat the 150lb version we can clearly see that now... and yes, the benefit of hindsight is relevant crowing about that win is pretty lame

Plenty of great fights like Canelo Alvarez twice, Daniel Jacobs, Sergey Derevyanchenko... But let’s ignore that he fought those guys (and signed up to fight Canelo Alvarez a third time) to complain about a comeback fight! You right. I forgot the ATG Vanes Martirosyan.

Pacquiao yes triple G no. Pac has fought the best his entire career, he can fight whoever he wants. Yet his last fight, Keith Thurman one of the top welters in the world. Will likely fight Crawford next. Triple G is all hype and quite frankly pathetic as of late. Since Canelo pulled his skirt up, Triple G ain’t been the same. Plenty of great fights 160-168 to fight the likes of Steve Rolls.

So were the other 7 names i gave cherries? Dudes pick a weight drained oscar out of every cherry i named Oscar picked the weight. It wasn't a cherry. I could have nitpicked the rest of the list, like how Horn was a mandatory, or how Rios was a comeback fight after getting KTFO but I really don't care.

Man cut the ****. Freddie roach knew oscar was screwed nobody eles opinion mattered. He just trained oscar and He knew Oscar couldnt make 147 and be oscar de la hoya. You keep talking about De la hoya vs floyd like it was at 147. Roach trained oscar for that 154 fight. So he knows better than anybody outside of team de la hoya. Whether oscar could make 147 and be effective. And you mention sturm like he is some elite middleweight. Dont tell me how many times a dude won a paper title. Who has he ever beat before or after oscar? The answer is nobody. So save that he was a top middleweight bull **** bro for somebody who looks up boxing records on google. He was a cherry pick gon wrong for de la hoya. In your opinion, pacquiao was a cherry pick gone wrong for Oscar. In my opinion, oscar was a cherry pick gone right for pacquiao. He moved up for oscar for a reason. And that reason was easy money. Roach was drooling for that "Dream fight". 8 names i said Pacquiao cherry picked. And you only debating 1 (weight drained oscar). I'll take that I get why the other guy thought you try to revise the story. Yup Roach wanted Oscar for Pac, but it wasn’t because of that 147 crap. It was impossible to make that fight @ 154. Pac was at 135 debutant, they had to meet halfway to make that happen and A-side Oscar never had a problem with that proposal. The real reason why Roach wanted Oscar for Pac was “He can’t pull the trigger anymore”. He saw that when Oscar fought Floyd. Was disappointed with Oscar’s performance and wanted Oscar for Manny. Yeah, Oscar was shot, but did anyone believe that before the fight happened??? Meh, Oscar was still the favorite. Weight classes for a reason right? That was the point of the odds. Btw, if you’re making comeback from losses, does that still qualify as cherrypicks?

De La Hoya-Felix Sturm was a competitive fight. Felix Sturm is a former three time middleweight champion and a former two time super middleweight champion. Pacquiao was a lightweight. So spare me the “Sturm should have beaten De La Hoya” storyline. Who cares? It’s completely irrelevant. What is relevant is that two fights before he lost to Pacquiao, De La Hoya fought an extremely competitive fight with Floyd Mayweather. It was a split decision where no card was scored wider than 115-113. They even agreed to a rematch. But you will never address that because it doesn’t fit your stupid narrative. Forbes did not almost beat De La Hoya. This is the worst offense of revisionist history I’ve ever heard in my entire life. I’m not even exaggerating. De La Hoya won every round against Steve Forbes. The closest scorecard was 119-109. So if you want to say “De La Hoya should have been 2-3“, fine. His losses would have come to top 3 p4p fighter Floyd Mayweather by competitive split decision, a TKO loss to top 3 p4p fighter Bernard Hopkins at weight class De La Hoya didn’t belong in, and a competitive decision in a weight class De La Hoya didn’t belong in against a five time, two division world champion. Again, Pacquiao was a lightweight moving up two divisions. Vegas odds do matter because you’re calling a super fight a cherry pick. Pacquiao was an underdog, so it’s impossible for that to be a cherry pick. We didn’t know Oscar was screwed at 147 until after Pacquiao whooped him. Way to use hindsight as proof of what happened in 2008 lol. Man cut the ****. Freddie roach knew oscar was screwed nobody eles opinion mattered. He just trained oscar and He knew Oscar couldnt make 147 and be oscar de la hoya. You keep talking about De la hoya vs floyd like it was at 147. Roach trained oscar for that 154 fight. So he knows better than anybody outside of team de la hoya. Whether oscar could make 147 and be effective. And you mention sturm like he is some elite middleweight. Dont tell me how many times a dude won a paper title. Who has he ever beat before or after oscar? The answer is nobody. So save that he was a top middleweight bull **** bro for somebody who looks up boxing records on google. He was a cherry pick gon wrong for de la hoya. In your opinion, pacquiao was a cherry pick gone wrong for Oscar. In my opinion, oscar was a cherry pick gone right for pacquiao. He moved up for oscar for a reason. And that reason was easy money. Roach was drooling for that "Dream fight". 8 names i said Pacquiao cherry picked. And you only debating 1 (weight drained oscar). I'll take that

Oscar wasn't a cherry. He was a big time favorite. So were the other 7 names i gave cherries? Dudes pick a weight drained oscar out of every cherry i named

Who has Manny not fought that makes you feel like he cherry-picks? It's insane to call the guy who ran through everyone a cherry picker.

Canelo is going to fight Dirrell. Lol. And not even the good Dirrell :lol1:

Floyd Bradley Marquez Cotto Hatton Margarito Clottey Thurman Aren't cherries Rios Matthysse Algeiri Horn Vargas Broner Mosley De la hoya Are cherries So its pretty even Oscar wasn't a cherry. He was a big time favorite.

You dudes swear floyd fought a old oscar. But when pac fights a older oscar who was coming off a horrible performance and fighting at a weight he hadnt fought at in 7 years. Its a good win. Man please. You dudes? Who are you referring me with? I just tried to prove that what you said is wrong and suddenly you go to a different point. Maybe try to quote me saying what you said

Dela Hoya is now a cherrypick? 1st time I heard a cherrypick that was favored to win. And fighting an opponent coming off loses are cherrypicking too? (Rios, Matthysse) You dudes swear floyd fought a old oscar. But when pac fights a older oscar who was coming off a horrible performance and fighting at a weight he hadnt fought at in 7 years. Its a good win. Man please. And i gave 8 names. You only debating 1. So i guess the other 7 were cherries right? And are you saying that rios and lucas werent cherry picks?

Floyd Bradley Marquez Cotto Hatton Margarito Clottey Thurman Aren't cherries Rios Matthysse Algeiri Horn Vargas Broner Mosley De la hoya Are cherries So its pretty even Dela Hoya is now a cherrypick? 1st time I heard a cherrypick that was favored to win. And fighting an opponent coming off loses are cherrypicking too? (Rios, Matthysse)

& ducking? When it comes to the boxing media and internet nerds of course. Both are darlings, prominent members in the media never call them out on their cherrypicks and ducks. Why is that? :dance: Why don't they keep the same energy?GGG is not ducking. If we use Ring magazine as a standard for reasonable rankings GGG just fought the Ring number 1 middleweight contender and soon fights the Ring number 3 contender. You can't name many champions who have back to back fights with top 5 Ring contenders. Not your god Canelo. Try to find Fielding in Ring's top 10. HE IS NOT THERE.HE IS NOT TOP TEN! Andrade has never fought a Ring top 7 middleweight. Jermall has never fought a top 10 middleweight. Saunders has not fought a Ring top 10 guy in over 2 years.Can you name even one champion who has fought two top 5 Ring contenders back to back???? No you can't. If you are going to call a boxer a ducker then pick one who really does duck top competition. There are lots of champions who never fight a top 10 contender but neither Pac or GGG are among them. GGG is fighting number 3 and number 5 and Pac just fought Thurman who was rated very near the top of the welterweights and was the betting favorite. You are falsely accusing two good champions of being duckers while giving many champions who are big time cherry pickers a pass.:dance:

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