It's been 5 years, and the entire front page is filled with maypac threads daily :lol1:
I've never seen one loss have this much impact on an entire group of boxing fans. It really ruined your lives :rofl: :rofl:
Yes, you find I did you as usual just don't listen. So i t maybe my next signature to remind you.there was no cw with clotte y so stop lieing.
Pac s allowed cw as he has had longer career, more fights and more divisions.
If Floyd was to fight at supermiddleweight people might be willing to acknowledge Floyd might be deserving of one
WTF has that got to do with having catchweights???
You haven't answered the question. Why did Manny need catchweights against Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and De La Hoya?
Yes, you find I did you as usual just don't listen. So i t maybe my next signature to remind you.there was no cw with clotte y so stop lieing.
Pac s allowed cw as he has had longer career, more fights and more divisions.
If Floyd was to fight at supermiddleweight people might be willing to acknowledge Floyd might be deserving of one
All those guys have mixed at highest level and had more experience than green nelo. Those guys had shown more in their careers than nel o had.
Floyd was retiring very soon after nelo fight, doesn't like any adversity. Can't have any disadvantages and win to show how good he is. Certainly hasn't made up for it. Pac s still fighting so has more than paid his dues back.
Pac on the other hand is fighting for over 12 more years. In 10 divisions above where he started.
I know you treat Floyd in cotton wool and standards for Floyd s lower
As usual you're wrong. Floyd had been a World Champion for 15 years, up until the point he fought Canelo.
You haven't answered the question. Why did Manny need catchweights against Cotto, Clottey, Margarito and De La Hoya?
What version of Clottey, Cotto, Margarito and De La Hoya was Pac scared of? What version was Pac preparing for? What was the CW for?
All those guys have mixed at highest level and had more experience than green nelo. Those guys had shown more in their careers than nel o had.
Floyd was retiring very soon after nelo fight, doesn't like any adversity. Can't have any disadvantages and win to show how good he is. Certainly hasn't made up for it. Pac s still fighting so has more than paid his dues back.
Pac on the other hand is fighting for over 12 more years. In 10 divisions above where he started.
I know you treat Floyd in cotton wool and standards for Floyd s lower
Does this forum realize that Mayweather beat Pacquiao 5 years ago....
Does this forum realize that Mayweather last real knock out was in 2007......13 years ago against Hatton?
He sucked punched Victor Ortiz in 2011 but that C*H*I*T don't count.
MMA guy (Conor Anthony McGregor) does not count in my book until he becomes a legit boxer. That chit was Barnum and Bailey.
Rocky Marciano had 49 Total fights. Wins by KO 43 and 0 losses.
It's really freaking disturbing. I thought this **** would die down after Floyd retired but hell no. It'll be another 5 years before people finally STFU about this fight....maybe.
You keep saying thurman was compromised and not great after surgery? Pac was ok after syrgery. Thurman didn't look great before pac fight but at least he's got excellent wins under his belt who's to know the thurman who best Garcia and porter and Collazo wouldn't show up against pac fight night? Pac prepared for the best thurman and he got it fight night.
What version of nelo was floyd scared of? What version was floyd preparing for? Was floyd preparing for the Nell who best kovalev and ggg? Unlikely as we'd not see it! Nel o also hadn't looked particularly good before fighting floyd! What was cw for?
Yes Pac s win over thurman better than anything in floyd s resume. Thurman had all advanyages, youth, height, reach, fresher than pac and a natural WW.
What version of Clottey, Cotto, Margarito and De La Hoya was Pac scared of? What version was Pac preparing for? What was the CW for?
It's been 5 years, and the entire front page is filled with maypac threads daily :lol1:
I've never seen one loss have this much impact on an entire group of boxing fans. It really ruined your lives :rofl: :rofl:
I just commented on this. It makes hard to visit as frequently as I’d like too. My guy won the fight and retired, I’ve moved on to Bud vs Spence but I’m about over that as well.
So you don't want to give pac credit simply because thurman didn't look great the fight before fighting pac. Even though thurman proven!
So floyd will get no credit for beating a drained nelo, any body could have beat. Yes floyd also jumped on the green nelo when he saw how not very good he looked against trout and really everyone else Nell fought around that time. Nothing to worry about yet still needed cw. So not a great win.
Are you crazy , how can you give a guy 100% credit if the other guy is not near his best, Manny fought a great fight to get a split decision, where it falls down is when you put the name on a pedestal when their actual boxing form at the time of the match was not good, it was a cherry pick because they knew he wasnt right and prime for the taking and they ran from Errol to make a Thurman deal pretty much over night, is what it is .
Thurman is still out now after more surgery from an injury that happened during the fight, Roach said he has been fighting injured for years and has faded over time.
Manny has more smoke in his resume than a Texas barbecue.
Oh cry me a river, Thurman was not 80% of his best the evidence is there to prove it .thats why Manny jumped of Errol as fast as he can and swooped on Thurman straight after that comeback fight.
We are not all delusional as you are, the truth is so easy to see.
End of story
So you don't want to give pac credit simply because thurman didn't look great the fight before fighting pac. Even though thurman proven!
So floyd will get no credit for beating a drained nelo, any body could have beat. Yes floyd also jumped on the green nelo when he saw how not very good he looked against trout and really everyone else Nell fought around that time. Nothing to worry about yet still needed cw. So not a great win.
You keep saying thurman was compromised and not great after surgery? Pac was ok after syrgery. Thurman didn't look great before pac fight but at least he's got excellent wins under his belt who's to know the thurman who best Garcia and porter and Collazo wouldn't show up against pac fight night? Pac prepared for the best thurman.
What version of nelo was floyd scared of? What version was floyd preparing for? Was floyd preparing for the Nell who best locale and ggg? Unlikely as we'd not see it! Nel o also hadn't looked particularly good before fighting floyd! What was cw for?
Yes Pac s win over thurman better than anything in floyd s resume. Thurman had all advanyages, youth, height, reach, fresher than pac and a natural WW.
Oh cry me a river, Thurman was not 80% of his best the evidence is there to prove it .thats why Manny jumped of Errol as fast as he can and swooped on Thurman straight after that comeback fight.
We are not all delusional as you are, the truth is so easy to see.
End of story
At his very best night he is not near Floyd, let alone after major surgery 2yrs out and nearly gone in his comeback fight against a B+ guy.
The few Manny fanboys talking sht are actually off in the head.
You keep saying thurman was compromised and not great after surgery? Pac was ok after syrgery. Thurman didn't look great before pac fight but at least he's got excellent wins under his belt who's to know the thurman who best Garcia and porter and Collazo wouldn't show up against pac fight night? Pac prepared for the best thurman and he got it fight night.
What version of nelo was floyd scared of? What version was floyd preparing for? Was floyd preparing for the Nell who best kovalev and ggg? Unlikely as we'd not see it! Nel o also hadn't looked particularly good before fighting floyd! What was cw for?
Yes Pac s win over thurman better than anything in floyd s resume. Thurman had all advanyages, youth, height, reach, fresher than pac and a natural WW.
It's funny but it's not. A bunch of grown men walking around talking about hypothetical questions about the fight of the century. Sheez, it already unfolded ya know? Just calling it like it is.
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See what I mean?
They desperately want the win over Thurman to mean that Pac is better than Floyd. But he's not.
At his very best night he is not near Floyd, let alone after major surgery 2yrs out and nearly gone in his comeback fight against a B+ guy.
The few Manny fanboys talking sht are actually off in the head.
There are good boxing fans who happen to like or love Pacquiao.
And, there are those who aren't really boxing fans at all. These guys mistake the pride they have for their countryman's accomplishments for some imagined expertise on the sweet science that they just don't possess.
The former group understand that Manny's greatness doesn't depend on comparing him to any one else. They readily acknowledge some of the careful matchmaking and catchweights as something all fighters do and celebrate how much excitement Pacquiao brought to the sport.
The latter group will tell you he is the best of all time even in the face of proof he was likely the 3rd best of his era head to head, and swear all of his opponents were in their prime and uncompromised when Manny fought them, again in the face of proof to the contrary.
It's just too bad there's a lot more of one of these groups than the other...
Exactly. Ward was better and the #2 man after Floyd. He just didn't have the profile and thus the incredible things he was doing in the sport got overlooked.
Pac beating thurman is better than anything Floyd did. Being 41 and beating natural WW, undefeated young lions definitely makes it a better win than anything on floyd resume. But we don't want that to make Pac better. Pac s whole resumes better. Beating common opponents better, common opponents saying Pac would have beat floyd in prime and even jmm who koed pac says pac s better. There comes a point when you've just got to admit it. If foreman, rjj and bh can admit it so can you and i. Even though I hate it. I d rather they said Hatton was the best. I know I would
Yes Floyd got decision over pac, but that don't make Floyd better, not even h2h. Jc beat bh but ain't better also. Turpin in beat srr but ain't better. Douglas beat .tyson but ain't better.
You know this. But Floyd beating Pac makes you feel good we can see that
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See what I mean?
They desperately want the win over Thurman to mean that Pac is better than Floyd. But he's not.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/sports.abs-cbn.com/amp/boxing/news/2019/04/02/boxing-floyd-mayweather-jr-back-philippines-55305
He’s been a few times and they treat him like royalty a nation of people scarred by Floyd beating their champion
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