Which fighters did Pac beat in their prime?

If you consider a 2009 Mosley prime then Barrera is so is Thurman. Cotto was close to prime too although that Margarito loss was devastating Clottey was also prime. He’s low profile but a solid fighter Never mind Vargas I definitely dont think Mosley was prime in 2009 even with his win over Margarito. Margarito never went on to do anything after that fight and, keep in mind, plaster wraps were found prior to that fight. It would be hard for anyone to claim Mosley was prime any time after his 2006 wins over Vargas IMHO. Just my IMHO I thought Cotto lost to Clottey after Margarito and with the new trainer and the catchweight...kinda takes away some of the win, but Manny wouldve won at any time IMO..

Definitely Bradley and JMM. I dont know enough about MAB tbh. Thurman kind of an asterisk for me because Manny fought him after Thurman had injuries, layoffs, and almost lost to journeymen. JMM and Bradley are better ATG (don't know if either is) than Thurman could ever be anyways. Jesse Vargas is not an elite fighter but he was definitely prime for Manny fight. Clottey was 36-2 (if given rightful win over Cotto) and his other 2 losses were a DQ and a decision to Plasters where Clottey broke his hand in the 4th round...it was basically an undefeated Clottey tbh If you consider a 2009 Mosley prime then Barrera is so is Thurman. Cotto was close to prime too although that Margarito loss was devastating Clottey was also prime. He’s low profile but a solid fighter Never mind Vargas

It was a very strange fight, Clottey didnt try to win and retired straight after. He did an interview and said something along the lines of he was supposed to lose. I had a lot of issues with my manager at the time, Vincent Scolpino. He took advantage of me. Our agreement said that he would help financially until I reached $70,000 a fight. He was taking 33 percent of my money. But once I started making over $70,000, he just disappeared. He wasn’t doing anything a manager should do. He wasn’t providing any financial help. Not even encouragement. Meanwhile, my promoter is the one getting me fights. Vinny wouldn’t even come see me in camp. He would show up fight week, collect his money after the fight and that was it. I don’t think people understand how much that can weaken a fighter’s spirit. I didn’t see Vinny until the week of the Pacquiao fight. So, after the weigh-in, I went to his hotel room. I told him how unhappy I was. I said, drop the 33 percent down to 27 percent. He refused. When I fought Pacquiao, I decided I was just going to defend myself. I wasn’t going to put my life on the line for people who did nothing, but take from me. It was all about business for Vinny. And I’m going in there taking punches so that he can take a big portion even though you don’t speak to me. Tbh i felt it was weird... He connected every time he threw but in hindsight Clottey gave the fight away to Cotto( still felt he won) by not letting his handsgo.a

You answered your own question: Margarito and Cotto. Whether they are good wins isn't thread title. The short answer: less than Floyd. Margarito was not prime against Manny. Cotto is debatable. Outside of Bradley, Vargas, Clottey, and Algieri it can be argued every other fighter was damaged goods in a disadvantaged fight...catchweight, rehydration clause, etc Floyd would be his own thread, but his resume is similar in terms of fighting guys just before or after their prime.

Man, this thread really hurt the Pac fans...They always make this claim but they can't even get to 5 names. Lol

The past prime fighters Pac beat like mmorales still better than most of Floyd s resume. Of course Floyd fought prime fughters the law averages suggests he must have done. But they weren't any good that's all. I remember when a poll was made here who was a tougher opponent Bradley for pac or cotto for floyd, Bradley won poll convincingly. Floyd may have made many of his opponents look good like connor, dlh, maidana, hatton but doesn't mean they were. Pac was robbed against bradley, that is bad, but it made pac overly aggressive against jm m in next fight and rest is history Cotto never really shook off tag of pac s used goods, never be the same again. Of course cott o looked like he may have recovered from beating but whether he was ever the same is debatable. Beating yuri, Majorga isn't much of indicator. Nobody is going to buy idea when they fight floyd they're the best version ever, that's just Floyd fans biased take on things. Cotto blew hot and cold as it was you weren't sure what you will get from one day to next. He might have had off night with floyd, just floyd made him look better than he was. Floyd often did that

I think Manny doesn't get enough credit for beating Clottey. He was prime and came off a unofficial win over Cotto It was a very strange fight, Clottey didnt try to win and retired straight after. He did an interview and said something along the lines of he was supposed to lose. I had a lot of issues with my manager at the time, Vincent Scolpino. He took advantage of me. Our agreement said that he would help financially until I reached $70,000 a fight. He was taking 33 percent of my money. But once I started making over $70,000, he just disappeared. He wasn’t doing anything a manager should do. He wasn’t providing any financial help. Not even encouragement. Meanwhile, my promoter is the one getting me fights. Vinny wouldn’t even come see me in camp. He would show up fight week, collect his money after the fight and that was it. I don’t think people understand how much that can weaken a fighter’s spirit. I didn’t see Vinny until the week of the Pacquiao fight. So, after the weigh-in, I went to his hotel room. I told him how unhappy I was. I said, drop the 33 percent down to 27 percent. He refused. When I fought Pacquiao, I decided I was just going to defend myself. I wasn’t going to put my life on the line for people who did nothing, but take from me. It was all about business for Vinny. And I’m going in there taking punches so that he can take a big portion even though you don’t speak to me.

Manny has a very short list of elite opponents that he beat in their prime. One could very well argue his BEST win: MAB (1) wasn't in his prime at the time of that fight. Nor was there any official title on the line for that fight just the unofficial Ring. Tim Bradley was a SUPER DUPER cherrypick. The guy was a 140lbr with a low KO% and n to. much. power in his punches. Had never fought at welter before. Had Floyd picked Tim he'd be getting chastised. Manny gets a pass. Sad part is it can also be argued Tom was no longer in his prime at this point I his career. Even sadder part. is Tim beat Manny and only loss due to being a buck dancing sellout who fought a slugfest in the rematches in order to impress all the racists who hated him for winning the first fight Cotto was past it and hadn't looked good at Welter in a while. He didn't refresh his career until he moved to 154 and became the top dog there. So FAR less than Floyd TBE Mayweather beat. That's it though.

Tim Bradley was a terrific win (3-0) and he was an undefeated 2 division champ who was unified at JWW. Never went on to do much at WW, but Manny showed he was a few notches above him anyhow What are other opponents were prime when Manny fought them though? When looking back on his career a lot of his best wins seemed very well timed: Mosley tried to fight Manny around 2009, even reportedly offering a catchweight of 142, but that fight wouldnt happen until Mosley was done at the world level in 2011. Cotto was a good win no matter what people say, but it's hard classifying it a great win considering things. Cotto had a career changing loss (and beatdown) against MargaPLASTER and then probably shouldve lost the decision to Clottey. Then there was the new trainer, the catchweight. Still a good win though Margarito was at a catchweight with a rehydration clause after getting TKOd by Mosley, caught with illegal handwraps, and winning a decision over a journeyman...making many wonder what happened to his "special" power?? People can do this with any fighter and any resume, but I'm curious what wins people rate as "prime". You answered your own question: Margarito and Cotto. Whether they are good wins isn't thread title. The short answer: less than Floyd.

As far as I was aware barrera was no2 or no1 depending on who you spoke to This thread is all about Floyd as I believe the thread starter is a Floyd boy What is the thread title?

Marco Antonio Barrera was 29 years old and P4P no.3 (some thinks 2) and was coming off recent wins against Tapia, Hamed, Morales, Kelly. After brutally losing to Pacquiao in 2003, he then went on to KO Paulie Ayala and defeat Erik Morales in a 3rd match and was a reigning champion at 130 for 3 years til JMM beats him. As far as I was aware barrera was no2 or no1 depending on who you spoke to This thread is nothing to do with Floyd, yet you're still twatting on about him. This thread is all about Floyd as I believe the thread starter is a Floyd boy

Barrera 1 and Marquez 2. Could argue both weren’t prime though.

The past prime fighters Pac beat are better than prime fighters Floyd fought, if Floyd has ever beat any prime fighters that is This thread is nothing to do with Floyd, yet you're still twatting on about him. You're completely obsessed by the bloke.

All I know is that prime Pac got well beaten 118-110 by past prime Mayweather.

I think Manny doesn't get enough credit for beating Clottey. He was prime and came off a unofficial win over Cotto

The past prime fighters Pac beat are better than prime fighters Floyd fought, if Floyd has ever beat any prime fighters that is Come on man lmfao

Bradley, Marquez, Barrera, Thurman. Definitely Bradley and JMM. I dont know enough about MAB tbh. Thurman kind of an asterisk for me because Manny fought him after Thurman had injuries, layoffs, and almost lost to journeymen. JMM and Bradley are better ATG (don't know if either is) than Thurman could ever be anyways. Jesse Vargas is not an elite fighter but he was definitely prime for Manny fight. Clottey was 36-2 (if given rightful win over Cotto) and his other 2 losses were a DQ and a decision to Plasters where Clottey broke his hand in the 4th round...it was basically an undefeated Clottey tbh

The past prime fighters Pac beat are better than prime fighters Floyd fought, if Floyd has ever beat any prime fighters that is