there are many killers in boxing history, picture floyd hurt vs mosley round 2, i see the killers finishing floyd and putting him in a coma or a coffin, old, washed up, brain damage, blood drain, no peds mosley just couldnt do it.
https://youtu.be/H35TyMPH4Zo?t=1268
Not according to you. Remember this that you wrote? :lol1:
Originally Posted by hugh grant View Post
... PBF if he can beat Hatton needs guys like Cotto and Mosely. Mosely because PBF needs to beat the man who beat the man. Moselys beaten DLH twice.
ONly then can we talk about PBF being ATG along the SRL and Ali and SRRs of this world.
LMAO
care to explain that Hugh.. ? :lol1:
You'd be surprised if you looked hard enough. If there were.no opponents for floyd as the names were too small in size so would be underdog against floyd, and Floyd wouldn't get much credit, or opponents had too much wear and tear, you need to look for another challenge elsewhere.
Ggg or Sergio or nel o at 160 or even 154. Or fight young lions spence, thurman at 41 like Pac did.
. Certainly better than berto, maidana and better than ortiz. Certainly should fight toughest available and Floyd can't even claimed to have did that. Didn't even fight toughest of a weak bunch, so what does that tell you about floyd?
Floyd admitted he didn't want to fight the best after the best, "there's always somebody else to challenge someone else comes along" to fight Floyd said.
Floyd schooled Pac and Nelo and didn't need to rematch them. You keep going on about Floyd not fighting GGG and Martinez. Pac was in the same weight class as Floyd. Why didn't he fight them?
heading into the last half of that fight... I couldn't see any way Leonard could beat him either
clowns were saying they couldn't see how Floyd could beat Pacquiao
I'm sure some thought Hatton would beat floyd also. Again, because they didn't think Floyd was that good, not that Hatton was special.
But once Floyd beat hatton, although people think ref helped floyd, Floyd was actually better than some thought he was.
Does it make Floyd great? No, just better than some thought and better than hatton on the night.
Floyd needed to beat more fighters the bookies didn't think he'd beat. Floyd didn't try hard enough in that department played safe
Not according to you. Remember this that you wrote? :lol1:
... PBF if he can beat Hatton needs guys like Cotto and Mosely. Mosely because PBF needs to beat the man who beat the man. Moselys beaten DLH twice.
ONly then can we talk about PBF being ATG along the SRL and Ali and SRRs of this world.
Well i m sure some people thought Floyd would lose to some of the people he fought and beat, underestimating floyd. So Floyd was better than some believed.
But that's not saying too much. I'm sure some thought jmm might beat floyd, as they didn't think Floyd was that good and overated. But it's still a cherry pick though as there were tougher challenges. It doesn't change that fact just because some might think bloated jmm would beat floyd and it don't mean it's a great win. It just means Floyd did better than you thought.
The bookies certainly didn't have Floyd underdog though.
This is what you asserted and Floyd did that and a whole lot more. :lol1:
... PBF if he can beat Hatton needs guys like Cotto and Mosely. Mosely because PBF needs to beat the man who beat the man. Moselys beaten DLH twice.
ONly then can we talk about PBF being ATG along the SRL and Ali and SRRs of this world.
Floyd has 3 WW HOFers on his resume. That's not a mediocre era.
Most mfers don't even got one HOFer on their resume. Sh^t some mfers didn't even get to fight a HOFer.
Name some eras when their where 5 or more HOF guys fighting each other at or near the same time frame & you'll easily see this was an above average era at a minimum.
Exactly.
And what folks don't understand is that 15 to 20 years from now, that tally for HOFers beaten will be at least a dozen and maybe more.
The fact that there are people who think Mayweather beats Leonard, Hearns or Durán makes him possibly the most overrated fighter of all time. The guy lost to Castillo.
Lesser fighters than Floyd have beaten them so you never know.
Floyd is a chance to beat ANYONE his size, and NOBODY smaller than him could beat him.
Thing is the best Floyd is really a 135 fighter, he was good enough to move 5 divisions but thats not his best, Hearns and Leonard are both a lot bigger than Mayweather, Leonard went to MW and Hearns went to 200lbs Cruiser weight , Floyd never been much over 150 and would have to give a lot away to them guys.
Be like saying Leonard cant beat MW Roy Jones.
Stfu kid. Floyd aint Leonard and Hearns ain’t Pacquiao.
They is just as good only a division or 2 smaller and they are in the internet era where any fool has a voice which distorts what really goes on.
Fair enough. I'm not necessarily talking about you or any specific person I'm just speaking on those irrational bs types who'll backtrack what they said based on results that didn't fulfill their predictions. Floyd was one of their favs back in the day.
I do think a lot of those hater types got hyped up on Canelo beating Floyd, even if you didn't, only to retroactively call him a cherry pick after he lost.
Definitely a lot of revisionist history out there.
We can always agree that we love boxing.
Nobody is finishing Floyd.
Not even Leonard or hearns.
I especially hate when people say Duran of all people would beat him. Duran quit to Leonard because he wouldn’t engage. You think Floyd is going to engage? Kill yourself.
It would be like the Benitez fight but worse because Floyd really isn’t going to even give him the thought that he can touch him.
Lol this.
Plenty of mfers were supposed to beat Floyd before the fight only to be called cherry picks after they lost according to some geniuses here & other forums.
ODLH, Maidana, Hatton, Castillo, JMM all live dogs, killers, quality wins.
Cats like Berto, Ghost, Ortiz, and Canelo were definitely soft touches and cherry picks.
Out of all the names above, I only picked ODLH and Maidana to possibly upset him, and that's on record. I laughed literally in peoples faces at the bar, and on here when cats would try and tell me Canelo had a chance. If you know boxing, you tend to get it right more often than not.
heading into the last half of that fight... I couldn't see any way Leonard could beat him either
clowns were saying they couldn't see how Floyd could beat Pacquiao
Stfu kid. Floyd aint Leonard and Hearns ain’t Pacquiao.
Floyd doesn't get enough credit for how tough he actually was. I rate Floyd "All Time" higher between 130-140. I think he hangs with any of the top Welters historically but I have a tough time seeing him beat a Prime Leonard or Robinson who were just natural Welters with Boxing ability and power at that weight. Duran at 135 is probably the only guy I think that could beat Floyd at that weight as well. Beyond that though, I'd pick Floyd historically much of the time between 130-140.
Id love to think theres a whole load of fighters from history in floyds weight class that would beat the crap out of him, i cant stand him, but hes as good a fighter as ive seen and hed be a favourite over most fighters from history.
I might take leonard over him and possibly hearns but i could equally see floyd decisioning both.
Apart from the gods of boxing - greb, srr, charles and langford - hes in the argument for the next spot as a p4p all time. ive got him about 7 i think. 50-0 beating 16 champs on the trott, i mean its an exceptional record.
I spent years praying hed lose and he rarely looked like losing, In fact in he rarely looked like losing a round sometimes.
You kids don't know sh it
As I said, Durán would have mopped the floor with your girlfriend.
I am not explaining what happened in that 2nd fight again, you should look into those posts since I have told that story a few times.
Your guy lost that is what happened period. Since you care so much about fantasy match ups, imagine what Floyd could do if he actually had 2 good hands?
Mayweather would never face a killer so even if you know they’d beat Mayweather (probably would), it’s a moot point.
Name the killers in his era ?
Name the killers at LW ?
When you attach a name to a blanket statement it will be in perspective.
the tards, when talking about old-school fighters:
"they could not compete with modern fighters today... now we have modern training techniques, dietitians, s&c coaches..."
the tards, when talking about Mayweather:
" no way could Floyd beat those killers from back in the day "
:lol1::lol1:
You'd be surprised if you looked hard enough. If there were.no opponents for floyd as the names were too small in size so would be underdog against floyd, and Floyd wouldn't get much credit, or opponents had too much wear and tear, you need to look for another challenge elsewhere.
Ggg or Sergio or nel o at 160 or even 154. Or fight young lions spence, thurman at 41 like Pac did.
. Certainly better than berto, maidana and better than ortiz. Certainly should fight toughest available and Floyd can't even claimed to have did that. Didn't even fight toughest of a weak bunch, so what does that tell you about floyd?
Floyd admitted he didn't want to fight the best after the best, "there's always somebody else to challenge someone else comes along" to fight Floyd said.
Pac did not fight Spence, and Thurman is over-rated as hell
Maidana would have beaten Keith Thurman
also... Mayweather beat Pacquiao, period !
Mayweather certainly fought better competition than Pacquiao
Pac totally refused to rematch Cotto at 150... no way would he fight Cotto at 154 like Floyd did, and no way would he fight Canelo
Mayweather is simply better in all departments