Lomachenko Fought At 135 in World Series Boxing

So Rolls and Szeremeta were more lucrative than fighting a champ at 168? Yeah Rolls was the more lucrative decision in the long term. There is no guarantee Golovkin would have beat or not suffer an injury against one of the top 168 pound fighters on short notice. At least he recovered the cost of his training camp for the failed Canelo fight It was the right decision given the limited purse and timing of the Canelo fight.

I'm right dumbass. He fought at 135 in WSB. He isn't some tiny lightweight in the pros. He fought at somewhere between 57Kg and 61 Kg in the WSB, and was still fighting at 126 (57Kg) at age 21 without rehydration before they scrapped the ammy Fetherweight division is all we know. All that tells us is that he probably couldn't sustain 123.5 (56Kg) by age 21/22. And all we got to go on for his weights in the pro ranks - except for your hunches of course - suggest that he is indeed on the small side for a LW after rehydration, as looks pretty obvious in the ring to my eye. A 'tiny' lightweight? I don't recall anyone saying that, but he's smallish and it seems he likely doesn't rehydrate nearly as much as many of his opponents at 135. Kinda think you're reaching with this one man. It's OK if you don't think he's as good as folk are saying, man. You don't need to create reasons to justify it.

I'm right dumbass. He fought at 135 in WSB. He isn't some tiny lightweight in the pros. Hate , hate , hate How did your spanking feel Speaking of dumbasses

It’s quite sad when ( lonely stoner ) in this case gets his ass handed to him in his own thread Lmfao And all this to say he hates a boxer 6 pages of bullchit and somewhat abuse to prove hate Smfh I'm right dumbass. He fought at 135 in WSB. He isn't some tiny lightweight in the pros.

It’s quite sad when ( lonely stoner ) in this case gets his ass handed to him in his own thread Lmfao And all this to say he hates a boxer 6 pages of bullchit and somewhat abuse to prove hate Smfh

So Rolls and Szeremeta were more lucrative than fighting a champ at 168? What champ at 168 is lucrative? Canelo is lucrative at either weight. There is also legacy at stake. GGG can extend his number of middleweight defenses (although not consecutively) while he awaits Canelo. Callum Smith and BJS do not add any money to his pocket or any legacy to his HOF career. And you know that Rolls was really a MW fight with a few pounds of allowance to make it easier for both to make the weight.

No matter the weight, Loma has a tall order ahead of him. If he can beat Lopez and Davis in order, I'd build him a statue. Lopez he might, with some scares, no way Loma can beat Davis. That's the fight for Loma. He told us himself./QUOTE] too bad loma is ducking it! Nah. I'm still a Loma fan, despite the absurdity of his fanboys (not you), but this will be Loma's signature loss. His career defining fight.

No matter the weight, Loma has a tall order ahead of him. If he can beat Lopez and Davis in order, I'd build him a statue. Lopez he might, with some scares, no way Loma can beat Davis.] That's the fight for Loma. He told us himself. too bad loma is ducking it!

No matter the weight, Loma has a tall order ahead of him. If he can beat Lopez and Davis in order, I'd build him a statue. Lopez he might, with some scares, no way Loma can beat Davis. That's the fight for Loma. He told us himself.

because giving me an unnofficial weight that you heard through the grapevine isn't something I'm gonna take as proof. common sense should tell you that if he was rehydrating to 138 coming from 126 and there is proof supporting that then he obviously is adding much more than pounds after weighing in at 135, especially since he fought at 135 in the WSB before he ever had a pro fight. I'm just making a point that he isn't fighting bigger guys. Idk what all of your passion and why does it matter statements are all about. If it doesn't matter to you then you dont have to be here. Common sense ain't the same thing for everyone, man. Guys tend to rehydrate less as they get older anyway. Dude might have just found his comfortable weight and not varied it much. Don't think it'd help with his style at all trying to bulk up, in fact I think it'd be a damn liability and impede his mobility which is key to his game. And as I've pointed out the WSB weights given by Boxrec are the weigh limits of the division the fight was fought at, not what the fighters actaully weighed which we still don't know, although we do know he was heavier than 57Kg (126Lbs ish) at that time. So. No numbers to back up your hypothesis then? Just speculation based on historical weights and what you think is 'common sense'?

This clown is clearly a troll, either that or he's too stupid for words. Either way, I'm done wasting my time.

Sosa weighed 142, Loma 139 so how in god's name is Loma the bigger man? And I'm the one who doesn't make any sense? lol Marriaga who fought Loma at 130 weighed 135 down at featherweight against Walters who had 10lbs on him, Loma weighed 137-138 for all but one of his fights at 130 and Marriaga said himself he bulked up a little

I'm thinking he's starting to struggle because he's finally fighting guys his own size and not marriagas, sosas, and rigos. It aint about level of competition apparently because he already lost to a salido and linares, campbell, and pedraza are not elite fighters whatsoever. Ah I see. So this is all a roundabout way of saying you don't think he's really that good? That's cool man, you're entitled to your opinion. Seems like an awful lot of effort to go to though when you coulda just said that.:lol1:

I haven't looked in the first post. You are correct. Dug up some more information on that that I included in my post above, Turns out the first 3 seasons of the WSB were contested at slightly diferent weighclasses: 61Kg instead of the normal 60Kg but then they moved back into line with the standard Amaterur weighclases in 2014 which is where the confusion came from. Worth noting there though that the Boxrec weights given for the WSB are the weighclass limits rather than the actual fighter weights (ie Boxrec lists the weight of all fighters contesting at 60Kg as 132.25 and 61kg as 134.5 so all we know is that they didn't weigh more than the given figures). Still learned something new though, which is always a good thing I reckon.

So where are your figures for his current ring weights? Mr Spassky above there has helpfully provided some unofficial weights which are roughly in line with what I'd heard which is that he's coming in maybe a little under 140. You're disagreeing, but I've not seen you provide any figures that contradict the ones he's offered. And besides, just out of curiosity, you seem quoite impassioned about this issue - you mind if I ask exactly why it matters so much to you? I believe Loma is on the smallish side of Lightweight and might well be able to get down to 130, but won't be at all surprised if he doesn't.... but - so what? :thinking: And again if he's starting to struggle - so what? Isn't that what we want to see? Competitve match ups? That not a good thing? I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from at all. I'm thinking he's starting to struggle because he's finally fighting guys his own size and not marriagas, sosas, and rigos. It aint about level of competition apparently because he already lost to a salido and linares, campbell, and pedraza are not elite fighters whatsoever.

you have no proof to back up your claims and your claims don't mak any sense. you actually sat here and guessed that linares rehydrated to 146 - 147 when his own trainer said he rehydrated to 144 - 145. So i wouldnt be expecting you to tell the truth when it comes to lomachenkos rehydration at 135 being only 3 pounds which just sounds stupid. I was going by Linares previous fight night weights. Some say he weighed 152 against Loma but I didn't go with that because I'd rather stick with the official average weights of his previous fights. He weighed 145.8 against Campbell and 146 against Arakawa. I did not make that up. So why did Loma come in at between 137-139lbs max at 130 and not 142.5 if he was supposed to be rehydrating 12.5lbs? Again, I make perfect sense, not my fault you're too stupid to comprehend it

So where are your figures for his current ring weights? Mr Spassky above there has helpfully provided some unofficial weights which are roughly in line with what I'd heard which is that he's coming in maybe a little under 140. You're disagreeing, but I've not seen you provide any figures that contradict the ones he's offered. And besides, just out of curiosity, you seem quoite impassioned about this issue - you mind if I ask exactly why it matters so much to you? I believe Loma is on the smallish side of Lightweight and might well be able to get down to 130, but won't be at all surprised if he doesn't.... but - so what? :thinking: And again if he's starting to struggle - so what? Isn't that what we want to see? Competitve match ups? That not a good thing? I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from at all. because giving me an unnofficial weight that you heard through the grapevine isn't something I'm gonna take as proof. common sense should tell you that if he was rehydrating to 138 coming from 126 and there is proof supporting that then he obviously is adding much more than pounds after weighing in at 135, especially since he fought at 135 in the WSB before he ever had a pro fight. I'm just making a point that he isn't fighting bigger guys. Idk what all of your passion and why does it matter statements are all about. If it doesn't matter to you then you dont have to be here.

Manny would come in as a ww when he fought at 130, does that mean he is some huge guy now?? No weigh in weight and rehydrated weight simply means you are cutting less to make weight.. manny pacqiaou came up from minimum weight and wasn't fighting at 135 before he turned pro, huge difference

the point is lomachenko is not fighting bigger guys ike everyone pretends he is, he's fighting in his natural weight class and starting to struggle So where are your figures for his current ring weights? Mr Spassky above there has helpfully provided some unofficial weights which are roughly in line with what I'd heard which is that he's coming in maybe a little under 140. You're disagreeing, but I've not seen you provide any figures that contradict the ones he's offered. And besides, just out of curiosity, you seem quoite impassioned about this issue - you mind if I ask exactly why it matters so much to you? I believe Loma is on the smallish side of Lightweight and might well be able to get down to 130, but won't be at all surprised if he doesn't.... but - so what? :thinking: And again if he's starting to struggle - so what? Isn't that what we want to see? Competitve match ups? That not a good thing? I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from at all.

I don't have to pretend. Just because he rehydrated 12.5lbs once down at 126 doesn't mean he's doing the same at 135. So by that logic he should've been coming in at 142.5lbs when he was campaigning at 130, right? Except that didn't happen. He was coming in at 137-138 at that weight and 139lbs once. This really isn't complicated. you have no proof to back up your claims and your claims don't mak any sense. you actually sat here and guessed that linares rehydrated to 146 - 147 when his own trainer said he rehydrated to 144 - 145. So i wouldnt be expecting you to tell the truth when it comes to lomachenkos rehydration at 135 being only 3 pounds which just sounds stupid even though we both dont have any evidence. i'm being realistic, you arent at the end of the day. nbody goes from adding 9 - 13 pounds then all of a sudden starts adding only 3 as they get older.