Serious question! Funny how people say that UK is one of the best boxing countries, but a lot of that is thanks to the ethnic minorities living there. Why are they over-represented? Is it because they poorer on average? Here are some of them in no particular order:
Anthony Joshua- Nigeria
Lennox Lewis - Jamaica
Amir Khan- Pakistan
Naseem Hamed- Yemen
Kell Brook- Half Jamaican
Kal Yafai- Yemen
Gamal Yafai- Yemen
Kid Galahad- Yemen
Dereck Chisora- Zimbabwe
Chris Eubank- Jamaica
Nigel Benn- Barbados
David Haye- Half Jamaican
Dillian Whyte- Jamaican
Kash Farooq- Born in Pakistan
+ Plus countless others. Surprisingly many talented prospects of pakistani origin for some reason. Also some west africans.
Must admit I've never really seen him paint himself as a Brit. I always thought he let himself be tagged as British because that was where the money was compared to the other options.
He always had British nationality, no?
You're probably right about the money part. Canada, for whatever reason, doesn't seem to have a strong boxing culture and therefore no wilful paying public.
Why are ethnic minorities over-represented in british boxing?
Because of ethnic minority privilege obviously. We must pass laws that require there to be equal representation in the boxing demographics, so we should;
A) Promote boxing in white communities
B) Promote boxing as being a BAD life choice in minority communities and/or promote alternative sports to them such as swimming, tennis, cycling etc.
C) Ban and/or replace current ethnic minority boxers with white British
D) Make sure that gyms are safe spaces for white British people / raise awareness in the ethnic minority community about anti-white prejudices / internal prejudices that they have and how to recognise those prejudices
E) Legal repercussions/penalities for gyms that underrepresent the white British demographic in their gyms
F) Heavier fines for anti-white behaviour/language within boxing culture to promote unity and to make boxing more appealing to white British who may think that boxing is too "toxic" and "anti-white"
G) If all else fails, educate ethnic minorities (especially the children of boxers) to intermarry with white males so their offspring, who are more likely to be boxers, are genetically "more white"/"less ethnic minority" than their parents.
Am I doing this right? Been a while since professor Goldstein gave me passing grades in sociology but I think some of the ideas listed would definitely help. We must end bigotry and strive toward a more equal society.
Next we must tackle the lack of females and LGBT people within boxing. Although seemingly the majority of boxingscene are part of the LGBT community, they are not active in the actual sport of boxing at the local, state, national level etc.
Your whiny diatribe in addition to your profile picture of an eastern-euro fighter are a perfect match lol
So you automatically support someone you've never met, who possibly has nothing in common with you, may hate everything about you, doesn't share your bloodline, but oh wait ... it's your duty because they live (perhaps hundreds or thousands of miles away) within an imaginary line which makes up your city's or country's border. This line used to separate one clan from another, but no longer has much of a purpose.
As a hypothetical - would you support your own brother born in another country, who is fighting a stranger who claims residence within the same country as do you (but looks & acts nothing like you)?
How about instead of a brother, it's a first cousin? Or how about a distant relative that you know you're related to in some way? How about someone who looks like you & acts like you, but you're not sure if they are a direct relative?
When do you start favoring someone who looks & acts nothing like you but who lives within the imaginary line?
Yeh I do, that’s why we have home city teams and you have franchises
It goes further than nationalities, it stems from majority of us being huge football fans.
You get behind your city 1st, then your country, it works the same with our fighters and they get the same support.
So you automatically support someone you've never met, who possibly has nothing in common with you, may hate everything about you, doesn't share your bloodline, but oh wait ... it's your duty because they live (perhaps hundreds or thousands of miles away) within an imaginary line which makes up your city's or country's border. This line used to separate one clan from another, but no longer has much of a purpose.
As a hypothetical - would you support your own brother born in another country, who is fighting a stranger who claims residence within the same country as do you (but looks & acts nothing like you)?
How about instead of a brother, it's a first cousin? Or how about a distant relative that you know you're related to in some way? How about someone who looks like you & acts like you, but you're not sure if they are a direct relative?
When do you start favoring someone who looks & acts nothing like you but who lives within the imaginary line?
Must admit I've never really seen him paint himself as a Brit. I always thought he let himself be tagged as British because that was where the money was compared to the other options.
Yeah. Grew up in Canada, came up in our system and won a gold medal for Canada in the Olympics, but there was no money for him here as a pro, unfortunately.
Lennox Lewis grew up in Canada and learned to box in the Canadian system. Not England.
Must admit I've never really seen him paint himself as a Brit. I always thought he let himself be tagged as British because that was where the money was compared to the other options.
because they are a citizen of your country, you like them vs. others?
you ****ing xenophobe
It goes further than nationalities, it stems from majority of us being huge football fans.
You get behind your city 1st, then your country, it works the same with our fighters and they get the same support.
Serious question! Funny how people say that UK is one of the best boxing countries, but a lot of that is thanks to the ethnic minorities living there. Why are they over-represented? Is it because they poorer on average? Here are some of them in no particular order:
Anthony Joshua- Nigeria
Lennox Lewis - Jamaica
Amir Khan- Pakistan
Naseem Hamed- Yemen
Kell Brook- Half Jamaican
Kal Yafai- Yemen
Gamal Yafai- Yemen
Kid Galahad- Yemen
Dereck Chisora- Zimbabwe
Chris Eubank- Jamaica
Nigel Benn- Barbados
David Haye- Half Jamaican
Dillian Whyte- Jamaican
Kash Farooq- Born in Pakistan
+ Plus countless others. Surprisingly many talented prospects of pakistani origin for some reason. Also some west africans.
Because all the white kids go into football, Rugby League, Rugby union, Cricket etc...
....( I love that excuse as to why the USA has no heavies anymore)
We have plenty of white kids fighting and have done ok, top of my head for current, BJS, Callum Smith, Taylor, Fury.. plenty more around the fringes.
Who cares, if they grew up here and they are good we get behind them.
We don’t see COLOUR, you yanks are obsessed with color.
Any British boxing fan around my age will have grew up watching Nigel Benn & Eubank. We get behind our fighters unlike bigots like your self.
because they are a citizen of your country, you like them vs. others?
you ****ing xenophobe
Brits don’t see color? Why are you people such cowards? Serious question.
We don’t see COLOUR, you yanks are obsessed with color.
Any British boxing fan around my age will have grew up watching Nigel Benn & Eubank. We get behind our fighters unlike bigots like your self.
Americans percieve Pakistanis as computer geeks and I.T guys and that's probably true in America. However, the Pakistanis you guys get over there are from middle class and educated backgrounds from Lahore and Karachi so they've always got one foot in the door towards upwards mobility when they reach America. They're almost always quite well off too and mostly come from Urdu speaking families.
In the UK however, they're mostly from poorer backgrounds, usually from villages and small towns from back home; from the Punjab or from Azad Kashmir. They have it a lot tougher and tend to be much tougher and street savvy too (for better or for worse) compared to their softer American raised counterparts.
Here they mostly speak Potwari or Punjabi. If they speak Urdu it's because they've learned it watching TV dramas or because their parents have taught them to pretend to be posh.
We also have a lot of Pashto speaking Pakistanis here too; Pakistanis who have their roots in Afghanistan but settled in the KPK areas (and spread out over the decades and became merchants etc) due to the conflicts in Afghanistan which began in the 1970s.
Americans percieve Pakistanis to be quite soft geeky types but over here nothing could be further from the truth.
America doesn't have many Pakistanis, I think there is just 500,000 in the whole country out of 300 million Americans, the UK has 1.2 million out and yes you're right, they're definitely from the more rougher parts of the UK but also the most segregated parts too, right now Frank Warren signed 6 Pakistanis on to his roster which is a tremendous increase, way more than the Afro Caribbeans too in terms of percent rise.
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Serious question! Funny how people say that UK is one of the best boxing countries, but a lot of that is thanks to the ethnic minorities living there. Why are they over-represented? Is it because they poorer on average? Here are some of them in no particular order:
Anthony Joshua- Nigeria
Lennox Lewis - Jamaica
Amir Khan- Pakistan
Naseem Hamed- Yemen
Kell Brook- Half Jamaican
Kal Yafai- Yemen
Gamal Yafai- Yemen
Kid Galahad- Yemen
Dereck Chisora- Zimbabwe
Chris Eubank- Jamaica
Nigel Benn- Barbados
David Haye- Half Jamaican
Dillian Whyte- Jamaican
Kash Farooq- Born in Pakistan
+ Plus countless others. Surprisingly many talented prospects of pakistani origin for some reason. Also some west africans.
I get what you're saying especially with the Pakistanis, there has been a huge rise in Pakistanis in the top ranks, you have Hamzah Sheeraz as the WBO super welterweight champion, Sahir Iqbal, Mohammad Bilal, and also Muhammad Ali who were all selected to be on Frank Warren's roster, there is at least 300 more in the domestic circuits rising too. I think kid gahalad the yemeni was taking steroids at ingle's gym though
It's because all of the non-ethnic minorities from the U.K. Have professional college degrees from Oxford University. Many of them are politicians, lawyers, doctors, engineers and Chief executive officers of large corporations.
lol, very true. Out of all my white friends only 1 of them didn't go to Oxford. I think roughly 50% of non-ethnic brits go to Oxford and about 40% Cambridge. The other 10% go to other Universities like University College London, LSE and St Andrews.
Serious question! Funny how people say that UK is one of the best boxing countries, but a lot of that is thanks to the ethnic minorities living there. Why are they over-represented? Is it because they poorer on average? Here are some of them in no particular order:
Anthony Joshua- Nigeria
Lennox Lewis - Jamaica
Amir Khan- Pakistan
Naseem Hamed- Yemen
Kell Brook- Half Jamaican
Kal Yafai- Yemen
Gamal Yafai- Yemen
Kid Galahad- Yemen
Dereck Chisora- Zimbabwe
Chris Eubank- Jamaica
Nigel Benn- Barbados
David Haye- Half Jamaican
Dillian Whyte- Jamaican
Kash Farooq- Born in Pakistan
+ Plus countless others. Surprisingly many talented prospects of pakistani origin for some reason. Also some west africans.
Americans percieve Pakistanis as computer geeks and I.T guys and that's probably true in America. However, the Pakistanis you guys get over there are from middle class and educated backgrounds from Lahore and Karachi so they've always got one foot in the door towards upwards mobility when they reach America. They're almost always quite well off too and mostly come from Urdu speaking families.
In the UK however, they're mostly from poorer backgrounds, usually from villages and small towns from back home; from the Punjab or from Azad Kashmir. They have it a lot tougher and tend to be much tougher and street savvy too (for better or for worse) compared to their softer American raised counterparts.
Here they mostly speak Potwari or Punjabi. If they speak Urdu it's because they've learned it watching TV dramas or because their parents have taught them to pretend to be posh.
We also have a lot of Pashto speaking Pakistanis here too; Pakistanis who have their roots in Afghanistan but settled in the KPK areas (and spread out over the decades and became merchants etc) due to the conflicts in Afghanistan which began in the 1970s.
Americans percieve Pakistanis to be quite soft geeky types but over here nothing could be further from the truth.