We all know whoever gets the call to fight Manny is boxing's way of winning the jackpot. In the sweepstakes there were more inferior fighters, Thurman 2 Mikey g Danny g but dang Manny has to call out the best in the division! Pound for pound bud is the number 1 guy. For those who exclaim that Pacquiao doesn't have large heoves is dead wrong!
Your thoughts?
nobody gave Thurman a chance in hell against Spence
I don't even think he would beat Porter now
and no way he beats Crawford
I think Mikey Garcia would have beaten him
#styles
Red - Nope.....
Welterweight rankings at the beginning of 2009:
1. Antonio Margarito
2. Miguel Angel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacquiao
After fighting Hatton for the 140 belt at the beginning of 2009, Pacquiao's next 4 fights were.....
Cotto, Margarito, Clottey then Mosley.
Nitpick if you want about this or that but that was his next 4 fights when he jumped to 147 in 2009.
Pac waited for them to fight each other, then picked up the scraps. :lol1:
Thats why he wasn't the #1 guy at 147. When Mosley was #1, he opted to fight Cotto who was coming off a tough fight with clottey and was stopped by marg the year earlier. Then fought clottey coming off his loss, then fought Marg after being KO'd by Shane, then fought Shane coming off a two fight winless streak.
Pacquiao AMAZES audiences. Did it as an unknown when he beat up P4P ranked Ledwaba, did it as an underdog against Barrera and Dela Hoya. Crushed Hatton. Destroyed Cotto that drove Mayweather crazy and accused him of PEDs. Beat up the MUCH BIGGER Margarito. Amazed again recently beating undefeated, young champion Thurman in spectacular fashion at 40 years old - now oldest welterweight champion, only champion in 4 decades.
P4P ranked Ledwaba? :lol1: That’s funny.
Ledwaba was never ranked P4P.
Don't think so. Histories greatest fighters gave biggest rivals rematches routinely as That's what fans want.
You don't want people to think your win was a one off fluke, and why not have 2 wins over biggest rivals rather than 1 win?
Pac gave barrera rematch because he's a proper champ.
Plus if fight is controversial for any reason be it Iv fluids, cw, you owe it to opponent to give rematch
Nah. I'm sure those guys didn't have mystery shoulder injury excuses for losing, so Pac can go **** himself.
Rematches are what happens when you take L's or can't beat someone convincingly the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd time. The people that actually deserved rematches against Floyd got there's.
Don't think so. Histories greatest fighters gave biggest rivals rematches routinely as That's what fans want.
You don't want people to think your win was a one off fluke, and why not have 2 wins over biggest rivals rather than 1 win?
Pac gave barrera rematch because he's a proper champ.
Plus if fight is controversial for any reason be it Iv fluids, cw, you owe it to opponent to give rematch
Welterweight rankings at the beginning of 2009:
1. Antonio Margarito
2. Miguel Angel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacquiao
After fighting Hatton for the 140 belt at the beginning of 2009, Pacquiao's next 4 fights were.....
Cotto, Margarito, Clottey then Mosley.
Nitpick if you want about this or that but that was his next 4 fights when he jumped to 147 in 2009.
He got them all after 2 years
Pacquiao gave his most dangerous foe 3 rematches. And wanted another one. It was JMM who declined.
Mayweather fought non-boxers instead of rematching his most lucrative boxing rivals. Disappointing considering his skills.
Rematches are what happens when you take L's or can't beat someone convincingly the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd time. The people that actually deserved rematches against Floyd got there's.
Nitpick if you want BUT....
He jumped to 147 (for real not delahoya circus) in 2009.
His next 4 fights was the top 4 welterweights at the beginning of that year.
You know he cant fight all 4 at the same time right?
Right. He carefully picked who he fought first and who he waited on to get old.
“Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny,” Roach says. “I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn’t enough money there, and second, you’re too good a fighter.” (Source: LA Times).
Nitpick if you want BUT....
He jumped to 147 (for real not delahoya circus) in 2009.
His next 4 fights was the top 4 welterweights at the beginning of that year.
You know he cant fight all 4 at the same time right?
It's unbelievable how Floyd s fans live off of Floyd being so brave to fight 39 years old ssm?
They expect Pac to fight everyone, even though Pac still fighting. The standards for Pac highest in history
He avoided Mosley when he was still dangerous. Waited until he got old.
Even Freddie Roach has admitted this.
Nitpick if you want BUT....
He jumped to 147 (for real not delahoya circus) in 2009.
His next 4 fights was the top 4 welterweights at the beginning of that year.
You know he cant fight all 4 at the same time right?
Pacquiao gave his most dangerous foe 3 rematches. And wanted another one. It was JMM who declined.
Mayweather fought non-boxers instead of rematching his most lucrative boxing rivals. Disappointing considering his skills.
Unless you are blind or started watching boxing last night you should know Manny cherry picks Just like any other fighter, this is prize fighting and a business. He was given Crawford before he left Top Rank but he turned him down. When he got beat by Horn he turned down a rematch. He went for Thurman because Thurman hasn’t looked good For a long time Because of his many injuries but he could have fought Crawford or Spence. Even stylistically Manny prefers stationary or come forward targets because mobile targets make him look bad. Don’t get me wrong, he is a good fighter and will go down in history as one of the great fighters of this generation but he cherry picks like any other fighter. Money is number one, whether it enhances or diminishes his legacy and the risk in the fight. A risky fight has to be well compensated for and sometimes there’s not enough money in the pot.
Solid. Every fighter wants to make that 100 mill payday. Just like what Jones wanted at he to fight holyfield.
Welterweight rankings at the beginning of 2009:
1. Antonio Margarito
2. Miguel Angel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacquiao
After fighting Hatton for the 140 belt at the beginning of 2009, Pacquiao's next 4 fights were.....
Cotto, Margarito, Clottey then Mosley.
Nitpick if you want about this or that but that was his next 4 fights when he jumped to 147 in 2009.
Mosley coming off two losses.
Cotto a CW coming of 2 bums and a major career cheat beating and Manny refused to fight him without a CW twice.
Clottey coming off a loss.
Margarito shot and exiled for 2 yrs then 150 CW.
Its like Ive always said you boys are about names, and you dont care if they half dead when Manny faced them.
Welterweight rankings at the beginning of 2009:
1. Antonio Margarito
2. Miguel Angel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacquiao
After fighting Hatton for the 140 belt at the beginning of 2009, Pacquiao's next 4 fights were.....
Cotto, Margarito, Clottey then Mosley.
Nitpick if you want about this or that but that was his next 4 fights when he jumped to 147 in 2009.
He avoided Mosley when he was still dangerous. Waited until he got old.
Even Freddie Roach has admitted this.
Welterweight rankings at the beginning of 2009:
1. Antonio Margarito
2. Miguel Angel Cotto
3. Shane Mosley
4. Joshua Clottey
5. Manny Pacquiao
After fighting Hatton for the 140 belt at the beginning of 2009, Pacquiao's next 4 fights were.....
Cotto, Margarito, Clottey then Mosley.
Nitpick if you want about this or that but that was his next 4 fights when he jumped to 147 in 2009.
Pacquiao AMAZES audiences. Did it as an unknown when he beat up P4P ranked Ledwaba, did it as an underdog against Barrera and Dela Hoya. Crushed Hatton. Destroyed Cotto that drove Mayweather crazy and accused him of PEDs. Beat up the MUCH BIGGER Margarito. Amazed again recently beating undefeated, young champion Thurman in spectacular fashion at 40 years old - now oldest welterweight champion, only champion in 4 decades.