So why some fans pretend Fury is the best hw ever?

When he was a prospect, I would just say that he is the best HW to come around for a long time. I have not seen half as much of some of the good posters here, all I got is my own frame of reference which were the 90s HW's that I grew up watching - by most accounts, that was a good era for HW's....and when i watched Fury, that is the kind of skill/rhythm that I saw. Nobody is unbeatable and hard to say who is the best ever, but he's a good addition to the HW's, much needed I think Agree that beating Wilder probably not the greatest win due to Wilder's limitations, but sometimes it's how you get it done...given his comeback, the first fight, and getting Wilder out of there in the rematch, then it becomes a good win. Still not as good as Wlad but so far he's living up to some of the higher expectations his early supporters placed on him

I firmly believe that today's heavyweights would obliterate the heavyweights of previous generations. That's just the way it goes. Fighters improve. The sport evolves. Only in boxing is there a collective denial about it due to nostalgia for the good old days.

Just think at how many non-great fighters get in the Hall Of Fame.

Saying Fury is better than Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Vitali, Lennox...because he beat Wilder is a little...strange.

Op being a little harsh. of course ruiz or parker might be able to beat fury just like they might beat ali, you never know. But People put fury as top heavyweight as he satisfy the eye test you don't need best resume.? You don't need best resume to be best pfp fighter look at crawford. So it's the Same rating fury all time. Sure he's not got best resume but neither has crawfird, neither has lomo

It's common for fans who are part of the current generation to praise fighters who are currently competing. That's really their only perspective if they aren't objective fans of the sport. It's easy to dismiss the careers of fighters you've never watched live on television if you aren't the least bit curious about boxers of prior eras. For decades we've had fans who think Mike Tyson was the greatest HW of all time, or that Ali was the greatest P4P fighter of all time. That's the general consensus from the casual fanbases. Tyson Fury moves well for his size and isn't a purely one-dimensional fighter like many heavyweights. But at 6'9" and 260+ he is doing what he is supposed to do. Even still, he would have trouble against someone who can bring the fight to him and get on the inside. Wilder was exposed, and most boxing purists already knew he was a hype job from the start. Nonetheless a good win for Fury, not a great win for the ages, but a good win. Fury is entertaining, and he has the showmanship and just enough skill to carry him beyond being a novelty item like Valuev.

Fury is considered an atg by the same fans who called Wilder a bum This only after he beat the so-called bum Can’t make this chit up Sorry to break this but none of the 3 are even close to being atg’s

you have trouble? Let me help you. wasnt ali close to being stopped against a guy that weighed 175 lbs and already had 8 losses on his record? and only survived due to smelling salts and extra time cause his trainer cut his gloves open? so wtf are you talking about. Fury got dropped, got up after 5 seconds and beat the **** out of cunningham. prime foreman lost to some random guy. lennox lewis got caught and koed. wladimir lost to some massive underdogs, tyson lost to buster douglas etc. You obviously didnt try hard ernough, or you just dont know much about the past HWsI would struggle to think of one all time top 20 heavyweight would would be outboxed dropped and bullied by little Steve Cunningham for so many rounds. If Cunnngham had been in better condition he may well have won the fight as it is he run out of steam and was KOed with a very dodgy punch. Fury is a very decent fighter and deserves sensible praise, but descriptions of him as an ATG are nonsense at this stage. If i am honest i hope he cleans up the division and stays champion for years a cements his place among the greats because he is good for boxing, sadly i suspect it will all come crashing down against Joshua who i think will have enough skill, power and strength to put Fury away inside 5 rounds.

you have trouble? Let me help you. wasnt ali close to being stopped against a guy that weighed 175 lbs and already had 8 losses on his record? and only survived due to smelling salts and extra time cause his trainer cut his gloves open? so wtf are you talking about. Fury got dropped, got up after 5 seconds and beat the **** out of cunningham. prime foreman lost to some random guy. lennox lewis got caught and koed. wladimir lost to some massive underdogs, tyson lost to buster douglas etc. You obviously didnt try hard ernough, or you just dont know much about the past HWs.

I would struggle to think of one all time top 20 heavyweight would would be outboxed dropped and bullied by little Steve Cunningham for so many rounds. If Cunnngham had been in better condition he may well have won the fight as it is he run out of steam and was KOed with a very dodgy punch. Fury is a very decent fighter and deserves sensible praise, but descriptions of him as an ATG are nonsense at this stage. If i am honest i hope he cleans up the division and stays champion for years a cements his place among the greats because he is good for boxing, sadly i suspect it will all come crashing down against Joshua who i think will have enough skill, power and strength to put Fury away inside 5 rounds.

Listen, I am Fury`s fan, but this is crazy. Man beat Wilder and now is he unbeatable? McDermott and Wallin beat Fury in eyes of some boxing fans, so why pretending like nobody from the past would stand a chance against Fury? Again, I like Fury`s style, he is the best hw now in my book, I think he beats Joshua, but top 10 ever? Not even close. Even more, I think maybe even Parker or Ruiz would have a chance to beat him. Nobody throughout boxing history has the combination of Fury's physical attributes, skillset & boxing IQ. He's almost the complete fighter, and at his best is visually better than anyone else currently boxing in the HW division. People can bring up Wallin and the McDermott fight that happened a decade ago, but they're clutching at straws. Fury was at his worst against Wallin, weight drained & suffered one of the worst cuts I've ever seen, and yet still won pretty much every round, that performance showed that A) He's a warrior and B) He can adapt to difficult situations in the ring. Wallin isn't a bum either, he's a 6ft5 southpaw with a decent engine and decent skills. If Fury isn't fit and prepared, yes he's beatable, but if he's at 100%, very few boxers from any era could handle him.

As a fan of Fury, it is very difficult sometimes to not get s hit on for not licking his as*, its like some Joshua fanboy, if you don't pick their man then you are a hater. I critic Fury like i do anyone in boxing. Beating Wilder doesn't make you an ATG, but it add to his resume of beating hyped up boxers in their backyard. Fury ended the reins of Wladimir like he did with Wilder, but we need to be careful how we compare the current HW to those who actually achieved a lot more. I mean pre-the Fury fight some people were telling us how Wilder has better power than Tyson, power against who? Tyson was beating top 5 contenders in his early 20s. What was Wilder's best KO win? Ortiz!!! Which says it all, so before we say Fury beats Ali, lets judge that at the end of his career.

Anthony Joshua, Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury. All of these guys are 1-2 loses away from disappearing 'In today's culture? If you are winning, you are the best thing since sliced bread' Tyson Fury is winning, so people will kind of get carried away 'It is only natural'. But If he loses, watch how quickly people will change.

Listen, I am Fury`s fan, but this is crazy. Man beat Wilder and now is he unbeatable? McDermott and Wallin beat Fury in eyes of some boxing fans, so why pretending like nobody from the past would stand a chance against Fury? Again, I like Fury`s style, he is the best hw now in my book, I think he beats Joshua, but top 10 ever? Not even close. Even more, I think maybe even Parker or Ruiz would have a chance to beat him. I think head to head I see a lot of top 10 heavies having issues with the combination of size and ability. He does blow a little hot and cold, but then again so did Ali. I dont think he is the greatest ever, no shot. Most likely wont have the competition to prove it either. But he is a massive problem for any heavy for any era, and I think he would probably dominate some great ones. The size factor is important.