That does seem a theme of Floyd s career. And even when not in vacation he never really fought toughest opponents available. Sure Floyd fought people who had belts but the maidanas, ortiz and bertos weren't really more credible than spence, thurman and Crawford's even if they didn't have belts.
BTW those 2 straight lefts Pac lands on floyd in your avatar what round was it? Nice punches
round 8 @2:28 mate
Floyd fought Gatti instead of Tzyu, never fought Paul Williams, didn't go up to 135 to fight Mosley at his prime, lost to JLC in their first fight and fought like a chick the second fight, never dared to take a chance going from 135 to fight Oscar or Trinidad like JMM did with him and Mikey did with Spence. Yes, they lost but, took a chance. Made Canelo go down to 152. Fought Cotto at 154 but, catchweight with Canelo. No Margarito, he didnt want someone that was going to keep coming.
well i understand your frustration brother.. floyd didn't want a pac fight after he massacre cotto's face and all he can do was to say "my health is more important".. really scared.. went on vacation just to avoid the real threats.
That does seem a theme of Floyd s career. And even when not in vacation he never really fought toughest opponents available. Sure Floyd fought people who had belts but the maidanas, ortiz and bertos weren't really more credible than spence, thurman and Crawford's even if they didn't have belts.
BTW those 2 straight lefts Pac lands on floyd in your avatar what round was it? Nice punches
pac turned down $50M? or was it floyd who don't want to smoke with pac's cum.. floyd demanded too much. which makes it harder for the fight to happen..
i know you little man always come here to the rescue.. you guys were delusional boys who thinks floyd is a god of boxing and without any imperfections. too much sucking his cum makes you come back for more. i understand.
Manny turned down $40 mil. You know it. Yet you are blaming him turning it down on Floyd and then pretending that Floyd suddenly made him an offer after he got KTFO. Stop lying.
Manny made a bad decision. He let his ego make him not take $40 mil. He felt disrespected by the offer. Floyd didn't give him what he wanted or he felt he deserved. Ok, happens all the time in the sport. He had the option of taking that deal and using that disrespect as fuel. Instead, he ran away, tried to get a quick payday against JMM, and it backfired when he dropped his hands pressing for the KO and got KTFO. Sorry but that isn't on Floyd.
As I posted in response to RJJ, at no point have I suggested or posted Floyd is a God of boxing, perfect or above criticism.
One day you might become mature enough to talk about Manny's actions and not blame them on someone else.
What did Floyd demand that was too much , blood and urine testing that Manny demanded Rios take lol, if you actually look at demands on the fight it was Manny that was demanding much, 50/50 purse that nobody got from Floyd, a ridiculous 10 mill weight forfeit,, difference is Floyd agreed to all it was Manny saying no deal and it was Manny ducking and dodging PED testing, Arum did not want Floyd killing his money maker until he was finished milking him.
Stop being such a delusional fool , its been years and hindsight is 20/20 vision open your eyes its as plain as day what went down, you make excuses for every thing Manny has ever done and still doing, be a fan but why be an imbecile that follows blindly.
well i understand your frustration brother.. floyd didn't want a pac fight after he massacre cotto's face and all he can do was to say "my health is more important".. really scared.. went on vacation just to avoid the real threats.
All of the stuff you accuse the Floyd lovers of is the exact stuff you do for Pac.
i know you and the big dumb are in a deep relationship. keep being defensive :rofl:
I think prime vs prime is a lot rarer than people remember. Was Duran with 70+fights and 12 years of wear and tear as a pro on him in his prime when Leonard fought him? How about Hagler and Hearns, were they in their primes when Leonard fought them?
How about Morales and Barrera? Were they in their primes and at their best weights when Pacquaio fought them?
Guys are in their primes for a few years, outside of those few years there's always a case to be made they were out of their primes.
And as far as getting guys earlier in their careers when they were "green" Well you're darned if you do darned if you don't, if the public is crying for a fight and you don't make it you get called a duck. I mean Morales was coming off a loss both of the times he fought Manny and he still beat Manny the first time, then he had trouble making weight the 2nd time. Many fought Barrera in Barrera's 15th year as a pro after with more than 60 fights.
There's always a way to nitpick. Even the all time great's resumes have things you can pick on. Just look at if they were champions, if they were coming off losses or on a win streak, very few fighters get a ton of wins over prime fighters because the prime is so short. And then how do you weight if that fighter was out of his prime? Manny Pacquaio is well out of prime, doesn't that give him more points for beating Thurman? Well then why doesn't Mayweather get points for being out of prime and still beating guys like Canelo and Pacquaio?
I agree prime vs prime is rare, and unfortunately these days, so is facing all the biggest threats. Like, I said, it’s not all all floyd that he didn’t have those career defining type wins. Sometimes timelines just don’t line up. His body of work and longevity is truly great, but he just doesn’t have a win as good as a Leonard over hearns type win or a Duran over Leonard type win.
pac turned down $50M? or was it floyd who don't want to smoke with pac's cum.. floyd demanded too much. which makes it harder for the fight to happen..
i know you little man always come here to the rescue.. you guys were delusional boys who thinks floyd is a god of boxing and without any imperfections. too much sucking his cum makes you come back for more. i understand.
What did Floyd demand that was too much , blood and urine testing that Manny demanded Rios take lol, if you actually look at demands on the fight it was Manny that was demanding much, 50/50 purse that nobody got from Floyd, a ridiculous 10 mill weight forfeit,, difference is Floyd agreed to all it was Manny saying no deal and it was Manny ducking and dodging PED testing, Arum did not want Floyd killing his money maker until he was finished milking him.
Stop being such a delusional fool , its been years and hindsight is 20/20 vision open your eyes its as plain as day what went down, you make excuses for every thing Manny has ever done and still doing, be a fan but why be an imbecile that follows blindly.
pac turned down $50M? or was it floyd who don't want to smoke with pac's cum.. floyd demanded too much. which makes it harder for the fight to happen..
i know you little man always come here to the rescue.. you guys were delusional boys who thinks floyd is a god of boxing and without any imperfections. too much sucking his cum makes you come back for more. i understand.
All of the stuff you accuse the Floyd lovers of is the exact stuff you do for Pac.
Manny had the choice to fight Floyd but he chose to take $28 mil to fight jmm instead of $50 mil to fight Floyd.
How you think that is him waiting to fight manny is crazy even for a cum gurgling Stan such as yourself.
Manny getting ktfo by jmm was karma for him turning down more money to fight Floyd.
B-tch move that backfired.
pac turned down $50M? or was it floyd who don't want to smoke with pac's cum.. floyd demanded too much. which makes it harder for the fight to happen..
i know you little man always come here to the rescue.. you guys were delusional boys who thinks floyd is a god of boxing and without any imperfections. too much sucking his cum makes you come back for more. i understand.
floyd fought pac 5yrs too late.. your hero just waited for the TBE to get ktfo before agreeing to fight.. that's cool.
Manny had the choice to fight Floyd but he chose to take $28 mil to fight jmm instead of $50 mil to fight Floyd.
How you think that is him waiting to fight manny is crazy even for a cum gurgling Stan such as yourself.
Manny getting ktfo by jmm was karma for him turning down more money to fight Floyd.
B-tch move that backfired.
floyd fought pac 5yrs too late.. your hero just waited for the TBE to get ktfo before agreeing to fight.. that's cool.
floyd wasnt even in his prime in 2010...lol
i never said thurman wasn't better than floyd's EXHIBITION fights you moron. Sorry but at the end of the day floyd beat Pac's ass and Pac will always be behind Floyd's shadow.
floyd fought pac 5yrs too late.. your hero just waited for the TBE to get ktfo before agreeing to fight.. that's cool.
floyd ducked thurman. and pac is semi retired you r3tard. thurman is 10x way better than those 3 clowns floyd fought.
i never said thurman wasn't better than floyd's EXHIBITION fights you moron. Sorry but at the end of the day floyd beat Pac's ass and Pac will always be behind Floyd's shadow.