5 fighters who would have beat Floyd Mayweather.

Pac is the only 8 division champion :haha: Not a single name to hang a hat on :fing02:

bro ive seen most of lomas fights live and he has a lot of wasted movement and can be timed, especially coming in, in a str8 line floyd is not gonna sit waiting like walters or Rigondeaux, floyd at 130 is 2 inches taller like a 5 inch reach advantage and threw combos , add to the fact he is faster of foot and would not be sitting there, move faster than loma you need to go study floyd at 130 is more like it loma has nothing to beat floyd, pressure without landing clean shots dont mean much I’ve watched all of May’s title fights. Unlike b****** like Kev and Relevated, I can deal with a difference of opinion though. I got Loma, you got Floyd. Cool. :boxing:

Gonna have to start putting the TMT asslickers on ignore to stop them ruining this thread. :boxing:

Facts are what someone shows you evidence of. Which I have. You have not shown any evidence of your stratospheric claim that Loma is some world beater that beats The Best to Ever do it. Except your own bias. Which is flawed. Since of course, there's already one way to beat him. I never said Loma beats Ray Robinson. What you talking about? What a TMT p****. :rofl: This thread is all about OPINION. I guess you’re too dumb to understand the difference between opinion and fact. War Salido! :boxing: Helluva fighter! That mofo done it the HARD way too. No featherweight in history beats Salido in their second pro fight.

Here's the thing, Jose Luis Castillo unofficially beat Floyd Mayweather and Castillo was just a journeymen, he wasn't even that famous in his native Mexico. Compared to Julio Cesar Chavez, who is a top 5-10 ATG (I have Chavez top 3 ATG), JLC is nothing. JCC slaughters Mayweather at 140 lbs. Same thing with Aaron Pryor, who beat Alexis Arguello, Antonio Cervantes and Tommy Hearns in the amateurs. So, as I said before, these are the only fighters in the whole history of the sport that legitimately beat Floyd Mayweather in a mythical match-up and they are: @ 147 - The Fab 4 Roberto Duran Sugar Ray Leonard Tommy Hearns Wilfred Benitez @140 Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. Aaron Pryor I thought Mayweather won that fight. Definitely won the rematch.

I wonder how many people really watched that fight. Everyone parrots some things knowing floyd said it was his hardest and knoing floyd had a rough go but a lot of people's comments (not picking on the dude in this thread) suggest they never really watched it. Credit due to augustus because he kept coming and took a ton of punishment, it wasnt as one sided as gatti, it was more give and take but agustus was getting spanked in the processes, he did make mayweather miss a lot but this was young mayweather who threw a lot that fight to. Most similar to the hatton fight in that he really made floyd work hard and push him out of his comfort zone but took an ass whooping in the process. Floyd himself has said that EA was his toughest fight. Some folks swear that when Floyd goes his corner after round 2 he tells Roger "I can't hit him - I don't know what to do". EA came up with some great tactics on the fly. Throw a short left hook inside Floyd's overhand right. When Floyd goes to the ropes, don't just bear down and bang his elbows - throw pawing shots to goad him into countering, then counter him. Now, Floyd definitely wins down the stretch. EA's trainer told the press that Emmanuel had injured both hands by mid-fight, which is why you get the odd stoppage where EA doesn't even seem hurt. (That's what the trainer says anyway!) Overall, Floyd was just too fast for him. But if they were at 140 and both had proper camps, Floyd's a little slower and EA has a bigger gas tank...

Great post Norm. Nice breakdown. You’re crazily underestimating Loma’s ring IQ. He’d challenge Floyd mentally far more than anyone ever has. Armstrong would have been a nice style for May. Sweet Pea gives him problems but Mayweather works him out. Duran possibly beats him at 135. He’d beat Chavez. Duran gives him hell at 135 but that would be a close decision. I think his length allows him to outbox Pryor. Camacho probably gives him problems early but Floyd works him out and starts to time him. There was only five. You can’t count my friend. :rofl: Just my opinions fellas. Good stuff! :lol1: Here's the thing, Jose Luis Castillo unofficially beat Floyd Mayweather and Castillo was just a journeymen, he wasn't even that famous in his native Mexico. Compared to Julio Cesar Chavez, who is a top 5-10 ATG (I have Chavez top 3 ATG), JLC is nothing. JCC slaughters Mayweather at 140 lbs. Same thing with Aaron Pryor, who beat Alexis Arguello, Antonio Cervantes and Tommy Hearns in the amateurs. So, as I said before, these are the only fighters in the whole history of the sport that legitimately beat Floyd Mayweather in a mythical match-up and they are: @ 147 - The Fab 4 Roberto Duran Sugar Ray Leonard Tommy Hearns Wilfred Benitez @140 Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. Aaron Pryor

+ unlikely Chavez gets to fight an injured Floyd with a f’d up rotator cuff chavez barely got by taylor.....that was bad call in the end.........whitaker beat him....got a draw.......frankie randall outboxed and dropped him but chavez gonna run through Floyd....lol....couldnt even run through Juan Laporte or Rocky Lockridge... Chavez always had trouble with speed and movement.....even when camacho was past prime and took a beating he couldnt stop him style wise, i dont think floyd would have a hard time with him 130-140...styles make fights...chavez is a slow starter, he'd be hard pressed to comeback vs floyd

+ unlikely Chavez gets to fight an injured Floyd with a f’d up rotator cuff they never bring this up or the rematch....floyd was complaining in the corner, turning southpaw to accomodate, getting rub down where was all this when mannys shoulder was hurt in fight with floyd...didnt bring it up in post fight interview " he do nothing....he just run...":bs2:

Augustus got pummeled the entire time. If by "scare" you mean took a scary amount of punches, then you're right. . I wonder how many people really watched that fight. Everyone parrots some things knowing floyd said it was his hardest and knoing floyd had a rough go but a lot of people's comments (not picking on the dude in this thread) suggest they never really watched it. Credit due to augustus because he kept coming and took a ton of punishment, it wasnt as one sided as gatti, it was more give and take but agustus was getting spanked in the processes, he did make mayweather miss a lot but this was young mayweather who threw a lot that fight to. Most similar to the hatton fight in that he really made floyd work hard and push him out of his comfort zone but took an ass whooping in the process.

Emmanuel Augustus gave him a heck of scare at lightweight with not much time to train and without even knowing who Mayweather was. At 140lbs with a proper training camp, that could have been a different result. Augustus made him work hard but Mayweather beat the crap out of him. The thing with augustus was he just kept coming, had so much heart and chin. It wasnt like mayweather wasnt landing on him, Augustus just made it a real dog fight.

A lot of fighters could beat Floyd and Floyd could beat alot of fighters , if Mayweather was unlucky with judges we wouldnt even have this conversation , it depend on so many details for example , Floyd vs Duran, at lightweight with floyds style at 130 (much more agressive ) Roberto would pummel him ,in 147 i favor more mature Mayweather over Duran , styles,time of a bout ,random events that could occurr in the fight etc it all matter.

Money Mayweather has a real, legit chin but I don't think his chin is good enough to take bombs from Hearns. Hearns by TKO/KO. Mayweather too small, he would have to box perfectly to beat Hearns. Yeah if Hearns starts landing clean he could definitely KO him or anyone at Welterweight tbf. I just think Floyd’s defence would allow him to avoid and ride the big shots. I’d pick Hearns by UD.

Loma is constantly pressuring guys with his footwork. There’s little to none wasted movement. It’s called feinting, he’s constantly pressurising his opponent mentally. By feinting he’s keeping his opponent guessing and forcing them to react. You need to go study him man. It was his second pro fight and he was outweighed massively by experience. What fighter in history beats Salido in their second pro fight? I don’t know why people use the Salido fight. It’s like using the Torrecampo loss to analyse Pac. Crazy :lol1: bro ive seen most of lomas fights live and he has a lot of wasted movement and can be timed, especially coming in, in a str8 line floyd is not gonna sit waiting like walters or Rigondeaux, floyd at 130 is 2 inches taller like a 5 inch reach advantage and threw combos , add to the fact he is faster of foot and would not be sitting there, move faster than loma you need to go study floyd at 130 is more like it loma has nothing to beat floyd, pressure without landing clean shots dont mean much

A poor man's version of Chavez in Castillo beat him, a 135lb or 140lbs Chavez would too. thats not a good analogy at all....castillo is 2 inches taller than Chavez and much larger only thing they have in common is being mexican and labeled inside fighters.....castillo utilized a better jab, and had less headmovement more parries....people been beating this horse a long time

One vs Barney Ross, another one vs Lou Ambers. You just put “Henry Armstrong full fights” on youtube and several fights come out. I understand that at the time Armstrong was a beast. But in 2020, from what I saw, i’m far from impressed. Actually while watching the fights, I find some of the posts describing Armstrong amusing. Like have they actually seen these fights and are they seeing what i’m seeing? They must be talking out their asses, trying to impress the boxing community, trying to be liked. There is no way in hell that Armstrong goes the distance today, fighting like that vs many of todays good fighters. I’m sorry if I hurt anyone old school fighter lover’s feelings. But that’s impossible. Back to the MLB analogy. You bring the pitcher with the best fastball from the 1920-1940s in today, with the same fastball, 86mph. Dude would get absolutely destroyed. He won’t get sent down to the minors, he will be told to go home and take up a trade or something. Athletes of yesterday just don’t stand a chance today. Same with the argument of how good NBA players were when NBA started vs the one’s from today. A ridiculous argument that is argued in all sports. Boxing is no different I see. its hard to be impressed if you dont understand what you are watching, i boxed a bit growing up, still do studied the sport my entire life and i coach now...all people see is aesthetics, how tall fast or strong someone is if you have no understanding of the techniques utilized and their effectiveness you wont be impressed or even understand what you are watching theres no way fighting like that, he would be successful but things he does and utilized were implemented by successful modern fighters like JOe frazier, roberto duran, bennie briscoe, and others using forearms to block, bobbing weaving and controlling your man on the inside and ropes. everyone has an opinion,but respectively i dont think you understood much of what you watched.....if he was so easy to hit those guys in front of him would have landed clean shots. no ones feelings are hurt, your opinion is respected....i just dont think you know much about techniques of boxing. more to boxing than punching and moving laterally

A poor man's version of Chavez in Castillo beat him, a 135lb or 140lbs Chavez would too.

I think Macho Camacho would of beat Mayweather at 130 pounds. What about Felix Trinidad at 147/154?

SRR, SRL and Hearns all beat him. Not sure any of them stop him though as Floyd’s chin and defence were excellent. I think he beats De La Hoya and Loma though. Money Mayweather has a real, legit chin but I don't think his chin is good enough to take bombs from Hearns. Hearns by TKO/KO. Mayweather too small, he would have to box perfectly to beat Hearns.

I think Macho Camacho would of beat Mayweather at 130 pounds.