To everyone that says imagine if a white guy said what Haney said
well... https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=842448
No need to imagine. All you see is a bunch of people saying that Larry isn't racist or calling back people sensitive
So stop the fake outrage
This coward a$$ “just leave race out of it” talking point is only used to maintain the status quo. America and western society as a whole is built on white supremacy. There’s no “leaving color out of it” because these societies are built on race and racism. Of course people part of the oppressor class don’t want to talk about race because the system is set up to their benefit.
Boom. Many just want to move comfortably within the institution of white supremacy and not challenge it or the people that practice and leverage it for tangible benefits.
With that being said, Haney didn't need to say that and he's definitely feeling the backlash of it but to equate it with Larry Merchant saying "The Last Black Hope" is a false equivalency and lacks historical context.
Different to what Haney said as he was referring to one fighter but equally as offensive.
As I said people should just leave colour out of it...This coward a$$ “just leave race out of it” talking point is only used to maintain the status quo. America and western society as a whole is built on white supremacy. There’s no “leaving color out of it” because these societies are built on race and racism. Of course people part of the oppressor class don’t want to talk about race because the system is set up to their benefit.
When white posters make the argument "if a white person said..... the reaction would be......" they act as if things are equal. The reason white people, especially white men, have their words assessed differently is due to the many, many years of them not getting any repercussions for not only the racist things they've said, but the racist acts they've committed with impunity and never been punished for.
Posters like DaNuetral specialize in fake outrage. Notice how he goes out of his way to give Merchant every benefit of the doubt. Now if Merchant were a non white media personality on PBC, he wouldn't make any attempt to understand what point is being made nor would he give any benefit of the doubt.
RJJ-94-02=GOAT posts people should leave color out of it. IMO its hard to do that when certain posters clearly only extend the benefit of the doubt or giving people space to explain themselves on the basis of race like DaNuetral has done with Merchant's comments.
Thank you! As someone who is involved in social justice and criminal justice reform along with other things where racial animus plays a crucial role, I thought I was going to have to write a full on dissertation in here lol.
Thank you again for your post and perspective.
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161381
do your research next time
a fight that took place in the 80s when racism was still running high.
So you're saying all the people calling Haney a racist are weak minded?
No Haney is weak minded for making it about race.
Instead of saying no fighter will beat me, he had to make it about race.
Merchant is the same...
Stop race baiting and grow up...
this right here... a white, brown or yellow fighter has never came out and say that they will never lose to a black guy...
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161381
do your research next time
When white posters make the argument "if a white person said..... the reaction would be......" they act as if things are equal. The reason white people, especially white men, have their words assessed differently is due to the many, many years of them not getting any repercussions for not only the racist things they've said, but the racist acts they've committed with impunity and never been punished for.
Posters like DaNuetral specialize in fake outrage. Notice how he goes out of his way to give Merchant every benefit of the doubt. Now if Merchant were a non white media personality on PBC, he wouldn't make any attempt to understand what point is being made nor would he give any benefit of the doubt.
RJJ-94-02=GOAT posts people should leave color out of it. IMO its hard to do that when certain posters clearly only extend the benefit of the doubt or giving people space to explain themselves on the basis of race like DaNuetral has done with Merchant's comments.
People should just leave colour out of it.
Only weak minded people don’t.
We’ve had “great white hopes”, we’ve never had a white fighter say “I’ll never lose to a black boy”. That’s the difference.
I’m not condoning any of it btw, they should just leave colour out of it, period.
this right here... a white, brown or yellow fighter has never came out and say that they will never lose to a black guy...
would you call it racist though?
It’s not racist.
What Devin Haney or Alan Minter said is racist.
Put the race card away now kid.
I’m a mixed raced kid who grew up in Toxteth. There are real race issues in the world and this isn’t one of them.
would you call it racist though?
It’s racist to a certain degree
He is stating that one group of individuals is better than another although he didn’t use any derogatory terms
He did come out and apologize so I’m sensing something was wrong with what he did
When white posters make the argument "if a white person said..... the reaction would be......" they act as if things are equal. The reason white people, especially white men, have their words assessed differently is due to the many, many years of them not getting any repercussions for not only the racist things they've said, but the racist acts they've committed with impunity and never been punished for.
Posters like DaNuetral specialize in fake outrage. Notice how he goes out of his way to give Merchant every benefit of the doubt. Now if Merchant were a non white media personality on PBC, he wouldn't make any attempt to understand what point is being made nor would he give any benefit of the doubt.
RJJ-94-02=GOAT posts people should leave color out of it. IMO its hard to do that when certain posters clearly only extend the benefit of the doubt or giving people space to explain themselves on the basis of race like DaNuetral has done with Merchant's comments.
Exactly, they won't just come out and say Larry Merchant is racist like they did with Haney they are tap dancing and trying to deflect towards the bigger picture. Funny
When white posters make the argument "if a white person said..... the reaction would be......" they act as if things are equal. The reason white people, especially white men, have their words assessed differently is due to the many, many years of them not getting any repercussions for not only the racist things they've said, but the racist acts they've committed with impunity and never been punished for.
Posters like DaNuetral specialize in fake outrage. Notice how he goes out of his way to give Merchant every benefit of the doubt. Now if Merchant were a non white media personality on PBC, he wouldn't make any attempt to understand what point is being made nor would he give any benefit of the doubt.
RJJ-94-02=GOAT posts people should leave color out of it. IMO its hard to do that when certain posters clearly only extend the benefit of the doubt or giving people space to explain themselves on the basis of race like DaNuetral has done with Merchant's comments.