- -U know, the ones, U...U know!
i know u.
at least vitali had the balls to face someone good like retiring old lewis, which is better than his brother,
though curiously after vitali got beat up he decided to avoid tough ones and instead it was his brother who became the superior, unifying and getting brave enough to fight fury, joshua and povetkin.
Ali has a terrible resume. His best wins are an old one eyed Joe Frazier and a green gassed George Foreman whose rematch he ducked for years until he got wrecked by Holmes and Berbick.
If Vitali was American you wouldn't stop singing his praises.
and vitali beat up alot of deadbeats but never got his face mashed like that with them.
strange, only happens when he faces someone good.
- -Sorta like U only show up to lay eggs in a pile.
Vitali is a top 20 hw. He won a portion of the title and defended it into his 40s.
He had a lot of defenses in that second title reign. I think longevity should count for something. How many very skilled and talented guys lost the will and discipline to defend the title they worked so hard to win
exactly the same number who didnt defend against shyt fighters for that length.
Vitali is a top 20 hw. He won a portion of the title and defended it into his 40s.
He had a lot of defenses in that second title reign. I think longevity should count for something. How many very skilled and talented guys lost the will and discipline to defend the title they worked so hard to win
He beat all the top challengers. Just because an armchair champion like you thinks he can judge his record means jack squat.
Vitali beat the best challengers, just like Ali Holmes Lennox...
The best is always the best. The best always has to beat the best, regardless of how the media tells you how good the era was.
vitali beat 6 top 10 fighters. ali beat like 28. holmes 18, lewis 15.
not just like!
Vitali was never hurt vs LL though, he ate all those shots and never blinked. But his face fell apart. LL hit other guys more than he hit Vitali and they did not get busted up like that.
Again, his face didn't randomly fall apart. Lennox did that to him. He aimed his attack at ripping Vitali's face apart like that once the cut opened. If it was something Lennox had nothing to do with, then Vitali's face would have done the same thing against other opponents.
I just have a real problem with equating Lennox Lewis opening a cut on Vitali's face and then attacking him to make it worse with Vitali having a shoulder injury that ended the fight against Byrd. They're not the same thing.
Vitali was never hurt vs LL though, he ate all those shots and never blinked. But his face fell apart. LL hit other guys more than he hit Vitali and they did not get busted up like that.
and vitali beat up alot of deadbeats but never got his face mashed like that with them.
strange, only happens when he faces someone good.
Whatever the resumes, Vitali was tougher and better than Wladimir. I never understood why Wlad was considered the better. Better technically, perhaps, but Vitali was the one you didn't want.
For both brothers HW boxing was at the most stagnant time ever. Most big athletes were pursuing other monies in sports. The HW division could barely produce a PPV fight .... and those that happened were terrible ... drove HW boxing farther into a grave.
That's a better top four than Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua, or Andy Ruiz so far. By a lot.
Fury's top four:
1. Ghost of Wlad
2. Wilder
3. Chisora? (Vitali also beat Chisora)
4. Chisora again?
Joshua's:
1. Even older Ghost of Wlad
2. Parker
3. Ruiz
4. Povetkin
Wilder's:
1. Ortiz II
2. Ortiz I
3. Stiverne I
4. Arreola
Ruiz's:
1. Joshua
2. ghost of Liakhovich
3. ghost of Elijah McCall
4. uhhh Dimitrenko?
Good point.
He's not considered great, he was considered to be a threat to any HW of his era.
Also remember he came back from retirement at a very boring time for HW, so people were hyped up over anything new that happened.
“Bu bu it’s black people who always play the race card”.
Wonder why I never see the cavemen who harass me and say I should be banned simply for acknowledging race, challenging you. Lol.
Not sure what made him flip like this, he was not like this years ago
Physically superior?
What planet you from?
I have no idea how no one see's how his entire profile is made to be racist, white people knocking out blacks, and the "physically superior" title....sad
Man this site is comical lol.
Not-so-subtle racist threads and posts from people on all sides (white/black/Mexican)
Revelated somehow making EVERYTHING about Terrence Crawford
Aboutfkntime somehow making EVERYTHING about GGG
Vitali has a lot of dominant solid wins...and then his 2 losses are fights where he was in them or ahead, and then stopped due to an injury...the injury sustained vs Lewis was obviously due to a punch, but at the same time, he was about even with Lewis at that time and Lennox is a top 10 HW in most people's book...of course Vitali was 31 then and Lewis 38.
Vitali basically did all he could do during his run...at least earned the right of 'how would he do vs this HW' when we talk all time HWs...which is all you can really ask for.
I think he was better than Wlad, most agree on that I think...shame Vitali never really had too many big fights in his career.