How to reinstate Same Day Weigh-Ins

Its always an advantage when done right, to be the bigger guy in a fight is always an advantage , thats where the 30 hr system is so full of holes, by its very nature a guy can be over 20lbs heavier because his body can withstand the greater fluid loss and gain over a guy whos body cannot . The idea of a fair fight is to be the same size in the fight, not reality but never the less thats the premise of a fair fight. If one fighter is allowed to be faster, hit harder, be taller, longer reach, more experience, stronger chin, better coaches, paid more... then why can’t a fighter who makes weight at the same moment as the other guy be allowed to put on more weight? If it’s part of boxing then why can’t one boxer work harder at it and be better at it then his opponent? Who is allowed to be better at all sorts of things? Isnt making weight something that takes work and effort? Sucking down and Rehydrating properly so the whole affair was beneficial and not detrimental to your performance is no easy task. If anything that’s been promoted as the riskier prospect for ages. It’s hard to pull off. People move up and negotiate to rarely ever move down. The lighter fighter in the ring can often be the harder puncher. Who are all the fighters that have shown that their weight was their key advantage? Let’s not forget that a lot of the time the fighter who had to cut so hard and added a bunch of weight is they guy who is in less shape. Water weight isn’t skill, speed, stamina, power or heart. If it was so great and easy to do then everybody would do it. It’s not like people are getting on the fight night scales anywhere close to often so it’s all speculation anyway. Just cause someone says “he looks 15lbs heavier” doesn’t mean that’s even close to true. We love to exaggerate. People will always kill themselves to make weight, doing on the same days as fight night is more risk. We learned this. Plus not time for subs. “He weighed the same as you did yesterday.”

Yes, often cutting all of that weight and ballooning up is not an advantage, you have gotta be feeling like shit the next day as many fighters have remarked. Like I said, ideally we want well energized healthy fighters who both weigh about the same on FN. Its always an advantage when done right, to be the bigger guy in a fight is always an advantage , thats where the 30 hr system is so full of holes, by its very nature a guy can be over 20lbs heavier because his body can withstand the greater fluid loss and gain over a guy whos body cannot . The idea of a fair fight is to be the same size in the fight, not reality but never the less thats the premise of a fair fight.

Yes, often cutting all of that weight and ballooning up is not an advantage, you have gotta be feeling like shit the next day as many fighters have remarked. Like I said, ideally we want well energized healthy fighters who both weigh about the same on FN. Right. But then we also let fight happen that are 50/1 odds so that’s some perspective right there. All boxers would have to get on a fight night scale to get a real analysis of what the trends are. Most don’t want to do that. Especially the top guys who have all the stroke. Weight is a marketing and negotiation tool. There’s so much speculation on how much they weigh in ring. Nobody believes any boxers words either, nor should they. They all could have got weighed on fight night if they wanted. We let heavyweights wear track pants, T-shirts, sombreros, full pockets on the scales. That’s a joke. Millions are bet on these fights and you can’t even see what type of condition the fighter is looking like. How long before someone is allowed to wear a T-shirts and pants in the ring? Thick beards are now okay too. Why not wear a pair of Princes Leia braids over your temples? You can also wear your trunks as high as you want. Bring your kidney protectors up to cover legal body blows.

They won't do it due to fighter safety. Instead they're likely looking at second day rules like the IBF has, or the 30-15-1 program the WBC is implementing. This is a sport in which men get punched in the face for a maximum 36 minutes a fight. The only safety fir boxers is to learn defense and fight in your right weight classes without cutting 50lbs per fight. Mills lane told a story about 24 years ago when he screamed in Donald Curry for being 162 or 172 in between fights when he was at WW. What do you think Lane would say to Tank, Crawford or Canelo in present day? Lol

Why? there's really no problem with how its done now If fighters are worried about guys coming in alot heavier than them the next day then they can move down or find another sport. Well said. Some fighters are taller, faster, hit harder and that’s fine too. Half the time it’s explained that the fighter who had to cut the most is at a disadvantage. The narrative changes depending on who wins or loses. If you both weighed the same the afternoon before I think that’s as good as it can get.

It will never happen but it should be. I agree , to be absolutely fair to the sport they should weigh in right before the fight, but that could never be.

It will never happen but it should be.

They won't do it due to fighter safety. Instead they're likely looking at second day rules like the IBF has, or the 30-15-1 program the WBC is implementing. Thats exactly it, they know fighters will fight dehydrated and the risk of permanent damage is much higher, this was why the 30hr weigh-in came about.

Same day weigh ins and One day weigh has its pros and cons. The best compromise right now IMO is the combination of both - IBF's day-before weigh-in and fight day weigh-in. But I think the IBF have to vary the allowable fight day weight gain depending on the weight class and not stick to 10lbs for all weight classes. We all know the ideal situation is for fighters to fight in their ideal weight class and not cut too much weight just to make the lower eight division. So in my mind, the addition of the hydration/dehydration levels is the best measure we can implement. Make weight and make sure the fighter is within safe hydration levels.

You have an issue with someone sweating out a 4 measly pounds to make super middle? You gotta think realistically about this. If a guy makes 175 and can pass a proper hydration test, by no means would I have a problem. If he can't pass a hydration test he should be fighting at Cruiser ... The shift at LHW to CW is definitely the worst, but HW's can be 210 or 300 lbs or more. So the larger guys take much more risk per the potential size makeups. For the other divisions it would stop guys being one-two-or three divisions larger than their opponent on fight night. That's the goal.

Not everyone fits into a neat little weight class, some fighters will still need to cut or be under the weight limit. Nope, they should fight in the next division up. If. hydrated, they naturally weigh 172 they should fight at LHW. You don't have to weigh the 175 lb. limit to be a LHW ... everything from 169 - 175 makes you a LHW. Same for the lower divisions.

You want to watch drained fighters fight because they had to do what they could to make weight earlier in the day? Not very entertaining, its better this way because they get to rehydrate, eat, rest up and come in fresh. No one has more advantages than anyone else. Fighters should fight at their natural weights. If they did there woyld be no need for re-hydrating. They would never need to dehydrate in the first place.

if someone can rehydrate 12 pounds and the other half that, its a different weight class, never liked that stuff

exactly. They're cutting weight, then going into the ring depleted and getting killed. It's one of the reasons they got rid of same day weigh ins. No. The weight cutting is worse now, because THEY think they can do it etc Same day weigh in's will force more fighters to fight at their natural weight.

It would most likely improve fighter safety. No fighter is cutting weight then gaining it back in a matter of hours etc No top elite fighter anyway. exactly. They're cutting weight, then going into the ring depleted and getting killed. It's one of the reasons they got rid of same day weigh ins.

They won't do it due to fighter safety. Instead they're likely looking at second day rules like the IBF has, or the 30-15-1 program the WBC is implementing. I think the fighter safety argument doesn't really hold up in 2020. Fighters cut huge amounts of weight to make their division, regardless if it is a day before the fight or 12 hours or less, they then put on exceptional amounts of water weight in the hours that follow and this on/off process has a debilitating effect on a fighters health. Add to that the fact that some fighters, in particular those with teams worth 100 of thousands, often fight in a division or two below their best weight but then put on weight and beat up on much smaller, less prepared fighters. We have seen how this can lead to serious injuries throughout the sport. It would then be safer to actually have the weigh in day of the fight, forcing the majority to fight in their most natural division/train more effectively. Plus, with modern understanding of nutrition and hydration, a 12 hour period is enough to hydrate back into a safe zone if too much weight has been put on. What the IBF currently has is rarely implemented and no idea about the WBC but they are probably so corrupt it wont matter.

They should do it. Like the old days.

They won't do it due to fighter safety. Instead they're likely looking at second day rules like the IBF has, or the 30-15-1 program the WBC is implementing. It would most likely improve fighter safety. No fighter is cutting weight then gaining it back in a matter of hours etc No top elite fighter anyway.

You want to watch drained fighters fight because they had to do what they could to make weight earlier in the day? Not very entertaining, its better this way because they get to rehydrate, eat, rest up and come in fresh. No one has more advantages than anyone else. They would move up to a more natural weight. There would be less weight draining, they cut a lot of weight because they have 30-35 hrs to rehydrate. Same day weigh ins make you compete at a more natural weight. We'll see less weight mis matches.

You want to watch drained fighters fight because they had to do what they could to make weight earlier in the day? Not very entertaining, its better this way because they get to rehydrate, eat, rest up and come in fresh. No one has more advantages than anyone else. Well said. A lot of Fighters will always have to kill themselves to make weight. Having to make weight the same day u have to fight someone will give the worst results in the ring. The hardest punchers aren’t even necessarily the heavier guy in the ring. People will miss weight. If it’s on the same day that really limits the time to negotiate a deal. So many times I hear a guy who had to drop tons of weight is at a disadvantage, yet somehow if someone weighs more in ring he’s at an advantage. It’s a bit of a paradox depending on the outcome. If u both made weight that’s good enough for me.