As I already have written, I am very disappointed, but it is my fault that I was thinking with my heart and not with my brain. I thought Kownacki's great chin can equal his lacks in defense, but I was wrong. Adam IMO should retire right now, as the dream is over. Adam, you are a great guy, you have a wonderful wife and a great new born son, just give it up. Think about your health, the myth about winning battles by shear pressing forward without a defense has already gone in your case. Also I think it is great not to hear any stupid excuses. I am disapponted as hell but still proud of you, boy.
Sad but true, we Poles will have to wait (hopefully not another 20 years again) for a chance for the belt in HW. I am too old to wait that long, I am afraid.
Sincere congratulations to Helenius who is one tough fighter and was not scared at all from the beginning.
during the vignettes leading up to the fight, Kownacki already sounded like he's slurring his speech, maybe it's his accent? If he's already sounding punch drunk at such a young age, yeah he should consider retiring. The PBP guys were saying that his wife was calling for him to quit after the KO loss.
Even with a "Great Chin" that doesn't mean you should ignore Defense and Head Movement
It is not over though, I think a New Trainer can help for sure he was dominating that fight I thought and then he got Clipped. That is very likely in the Heavyweight Division that is why you have to "PROTECT YOURSELF AT ALL TIMES"
Never looked at Kownacki as a World Champion Fighter or anything like that but good stylistic fighter who can pack in a nice crowd when he fights in New York. Helenius was suppose to be a easy showcase fight for him to look good against and he started off well and then BOOM 1 Punch changed it all
That being said his flaws should've been worked on after the Charles Martin fight but it wasn't, the same flaws in that fight was in the Arreola fight. You let your hands go that much, while it makes for entertaining fights, it does leave a lot of opening Defensively
I say this without any malice at all, but I really wish he'd taken the AJ fight. I don't gaf whichever manager told him he wasn't ready, he has the shortest career style imaginable, you don't turn down $6 million and a shot at accomplishing everything you ever dreamed of. It's maddening, and entirely the reverse of the people perceiving it as a short sighted pick.
I would love to know what the rationale was for that decision. If Adam’s handlers advised him not to take it, I imagine they had his best interests in mind. After all, they themselves would be giving up a big payday. But hindsight is 20/20. We all have regrets about decisions that seem so clear to us now.
I cannot say you are wrong. Most probably Adam will agree to you as well.
End I also agree it is a concern that what you mentioned. I just think it's a complicated problem as a man we are allowed to choose which poison we will take to get our family where they need to be.
So you are assuming Adam is so dumb that all he can do is deliver pizza. Nice one.
Nothing to do with intelligence. It does not work that way.
I'm not saying it shouldn't think about boxing and danger but I do think it's more complex situation. You going to trade one set of problems for another. And I know you know better because of our respective ages and how we have seen so many people destroyed my money problems. And it has nothing to do with intelligence.
Sounds pretty sensible to me. I dont know why you wanna keep things going. Its cool bro. I'll try remember not everyone is normal. this is the internet after all. Have a good buddy
That’s because you kept replying to me. I didn’t quote you. That’s one of your private messages to me. Like I said this is well known trait of yours.
Pull one up? This isn’t school yard mate. Take your emotional hormonal self back to Uncle Al. Here is for boxing discussion. Next time you see me talk about Wilder/PBC or your uncle in a different tone, don’t quote me... Don’t cry and ask why? Just take it and don’t get triggered...
This is a private post from you to me like a typical female...
Hey man I'm really sorry about what ever you have going on my life that's upsetting you today. I thought normally you're a more sensible guy, but maybe I'm confusing you with another poster with rex in their name.
REGARDLESS,
Let's move on. All this back and forth is childish. Who ever is right or wrong, it doesn't matter. Its pointless it's not even over boxing.
Hope everything gets better for you. I hope no hard feelings. #boxing should bring fans together, not tear us apart. I sent a little green k your way. I hope it shows you that this "spat" or whatever you though this was is nothing. Cheers
Sounds pretty sensible to me. I dont know why you wanna keep things going. Its cool bro. I'll try remember not everyone is normal. this is the internet after all. Have a good buddy
Ok. But you haven't provided ONE post. If that's all i do. Pull one up.
Pull one up? This isn’t school yard mate. Take your emotional hormonal self back to Uncle Al. Here is for boxing discussion. Next time you see me talk about Wilder/PBC or your uncle in a different tone, don’t quote me... Don’t cry and ask why? Just take it and don’t get triggered...
This is a private post from you to me like a typical female...
Hey man I'm really sorry about what ever you have going on my life that's upsetting you today. I thought normally you're a more sensible guy, but maybe I'm confusing you with another poster with rex in their name.
REGARDLESS,
Let's move on. All this back and forth is childish. Who ever is right or wrong, it doesn't matter. Its pointless it's not even over boxing.
Hope everything gets better for you. I hope no hard feelings. #boxing should bring fans together, not tear us apart. I sent a little green k your way. I hope it shows you that this "spat" or whatever you though this was is nothing. Cheers
That’s exactly how you post, nothing more nothing else. You expose yourself every single time as a hormone female. Anytime anyone says anything about Wilder, Haymon or PBC you are on them like a bad rash...
Ok. But you haven't provided ONE post. If that's all i do. Pull one up. You liar that's hurt and hangs on to everything i said in the past. Just like one of my exes or a "hormone female" what ever that is. Lol By the things you say its clear youre not all there nor have contact with females. You keep bashing females like you hate them. The more you type the more you expose the true you. Lol
I keep hurting you unintentionally. Because I dont ever recall speaking to you before. So im sorry. You forgive me?
Obviously he doesn`t care about his family, does he. he prefers fighting journeymen for small money rather than getting a big payday against Joshua.
Am sure he regrets it, he obviously was sold a dream. “Don’t worry you would make more in a couple of fights” but here he is getting KO’ed for 100k...
A poster just asked me if I would let him go from Washington to AJ for 5:6m, would anyone with a boxing brain even ask a question like that!!! I mean it’s the HW for goodness sake, of course take that phucking money, even if you lose you can say it was short notice, and if you win (Like Ruiz did) then you get another lucrative rematch, family set for life.
Ohhh that’s sad — I didn’t know that.
This guy has a family. They seem to care about him. Did you see his wife’s face when he got TKO’d, you could see she was worried for him, too.
I have a family of my own and have been going through some serious health problems and seen that same look on my wife’s face, so that really hits home.
I wish him the best, hope he puts his family before boxing and can be there a long time for them.
Did you know his wife was telling his corner to throw in the towel? That’s a caring wife.
Lol. What? I give some of you guys to much credit. I go into conversations thinking everyone's normal, but thats clearly not the case. You guys expose yourselves pretty fast.
That’s exactly how you post, nothing more nothing else. You expose yourself every single time as a hormone female. Anytime anyone says anything about Wilder, Haymon or PBC you are on them like a bad rash...
You now making up stuffs too, for one you know nothing about me. The only one angry and emotional is you. You don’t recall talking to me about boxing and doing the same thing that you are doing here? Your name sticks out because you do it with anyone that says anything about PBC.
Then you always proceed to accuse them or being “Weird” “Emontional” or your best one “I have a woman next to me lol”.
Stick to the subject, or don’t quote me in future when your hormones overwhelmed you when anyone calls out PBC.
Lol. What? I give some of you guys to much credit. I go into conversations thinking everyone's normal, but thats clearly not the case. You guys expose yourselves pretty fast.
Ohhh that’s sad — I didn’t know that.
This guy has a family. They seem to care about him. Did you see his wife’s face when he got TKO’d, you could see she was worried for him, too.
I have a family of my own and have been going through some serious health problems and seen that same look on my wife’s face, so that really hits home.
I wish him the best, hope he puts his family before boxing and can be there a long time for them.
Yes, that was exactly my first thought, too. No belt, even all the belts are not worth it. I guess if Cassius Clay had known how the end of Mohammed Ali would have looked like, we should have had Liston vs. Foreman battle for the title.
But I also understand (to some extemt) those voices of reason that say it is Adam's job.
Well, the truth is as I hear from year to year Adam speaks less and less fluently, I am afraid of his future health. His style causes that he receives as many punches into his head as noone in the division. And it is HW, not featherweight.
Secondly, I guess it would be very tough for Kownacki to change his style and become either a defensive fighter or a runner away.
Ohhh that’s sad — I didn’t know that.
This guy has a family. They seem to care about him. Did you see his wife’s face when he got TKO’d, you could see she was worried for him, too.
I have a family of my own and have been going through some serious health problems and seen that same look on my wife’s face, so that really hits home.
I wish him the best, hope he puts his family before boxing and can be there a long time for them.
Lmao. Oh ok. Cant mention anything. Cool. Another liar that makes up things because he likes to argue.
I dont recall ever talking to you. And im sure I'll forget again. So that means the .
You now making up stuffs too, for one you know nothing about me. The only one angry and emotional is you. You don’t recall talking to me about boxing and doing the same thing that you are doing here? Your name sticks out because you do it with anyone that says anything about PBC.
Then you always proceed to accuse them or being “Weird” “Emontional” or your best one “I have a woman next to me lol”.
Stick to the subject, or don’t quote me in future when your hormones overwhelmed you when anyone calls out PBC.
Like I said stop putting this guys in showcase fights, he already had those, too many leads to a lack of motivation. Obviously you got triggered because it’s PBC involved. He shouldn’t be in there with Helenius but they went and got Helenius ranked by the corrupt WBA and then put Adam in there, prior to that he was meant to fight Breazeale, a fight that wouldn’t be a showcase fight but a proper test, so no I don’t blame him for a lack of motivation.
If I was getting place in showcase fights after show case fights then it would give me a false sense of security. Which Adam and a lot of PBC fighter gets in the end, Marcus Browne is a perfect example, these boxers are himan, they need to be pushed.
But nah you are on here defending PBC anytime anyone has any harsh criticism for them. You don’t see the bigger picture as long as it’s defending uncle Al’s business model.
Yeah God bless you too mate...
I couldn’t care less if you support boxers or not, you trying to type BS that you do and accuse others of doing it. The only person “Emotional” is you. Since anytime anyone points out anything constructive criticism of PBC you instantly get triggered. You have a hormonal feminists trait. This is an issue that you need to deal with mate. Try that first before you click and comment on others post.
I have said this to you in the past, if you read one of my posts about PBC and it triggers your feminine traits then by all means do NOT reply to it. Because I would go in on you until you quit.
I personally don’t ever like to quote you, but when you quote one of my post then trust me I would reply to every single of your post to me...
Lmao. Oh ok. Cant mention anything. Cool. Another liar that makes up things because he likes to argue.
I dont recall ever talking to you. And im sure I'll forget again. So that means the only one emotional and holding on to things because they are hurt by them is.... You. I forgot you then and I'll forget you now. Lmao
I feel bad now that the things i say stick to you and I don't even remember every talking to you or know who you are.
Youre not the type I battle. Guys like you are so angry and bitter with life because you can't succeed. Guys like you are losers and dont know it or won't admit it. Lmao.