A some point unless he retires soon Fury will lose

You are hung up on everyone loses. Most lose but some don't lose. The reason really excellent fighters usually lose is because they fight past their prime. Heavyweight champion Marciano never lost. Mayweather never lost. Ward never lost. If a boxer just keep fighting well past the age of 30 which usually marks the end of prime then yes they will eventually lose. For instance Spence and Crawford are both wealthy and proven champions and they could retire undefeated but they will probably keep fighting and making money well past their prime and eventually lose. Fury says he will only fight a few more times and then retire. Fury is still fairly young and I don't see any heavyweights fighting now that can beat him in my opinion. I think he can easily have two or three more fights and retire undefeated. If he just keeps fighting for years then of course he will eventually lose.

We will see. Ruiz was a huge upset - they happen. He gave him a lesson in the rematch. He showed that styles make fights, and he could adapt his style to one that Ruiz couldn't get near. It was the safe play. But rest assured, Joshua can bang. You don't need to have watched much boxing to know that. I wouldn't compare Wilder's shots to Joshua's in a proper boxing match. Wilder has great power when he steps in, but his technique fails him going backwards. Joshua can hit - he has technique. And his hands are fast enough. It would be a much better fight than Wilder. I think if the punches wilder landed on fury lands on Aj, he ain’t getting up. Fury got hit on the chin and still went up. In the rematch, he also got hit by wilder in the 1st and 2nd round with wilder coming forward and he didn’t even shake. Aj is definitely better than wilder in terms of boxing skills, but if he can also beat him he has to prove that one in the ring. Easy to say it until you get hit with the right hand.

He's levels above them. But even then it just takes one shot. You can't have seen many worse cuts than Fury's against Wallin make it the distance? He beats Wilder 4/5 I reckon. The rest he's 9/10. Except for Joshua. A boxer/puncher vs a boxer. Fury still isn't a puncher - even at that huge weight. I think, and have always thought, that AJ is all wrong for Fury. He's not good enough to bully AJ. He'll take too many shots. And if he stays outside he won't have the luxury of only taking a couple of shots like against Wilder - AJ will land more regularly. Its funny because I always thought this until I saw AJ against Parker. He refused to engage and if Parker had had abit more height and reach AJ would've probably had real problems. AJ was abit gun shy, and now hes probably going to be worse. He's not marching in on Fury. Nobody considered Ruiz a puncher either, but he didn't need to be. I think AJ looks like Wlad did against Fury. Unsure and stiif, unable to take the chances he'd need to to get in range and put it on Fury.

Anyone who thinks Fury isn't special needs to find a new sport.

I'd expect a fighter with good body work to beat fury his body is such a large target it's interesting how everyone goes head hunting against him considering he has such range and good head movement but his body is so large and fleshy. Even though I consider him better than both I think this and white have a good chance against him as both work the body well and have good punch variety.

In his own words 'just like rocky marciano i will retire undefeated heavyweight champion the 2nd man to ever do it' Fury is pretty good at predictions and following through with them. He seems to be the kind of person who visualises what he says every night before he goes bed

Did he really give him a lesson in the rematch? To me, he fought wide eyed and scared, he wouldn't go anywhere near Ruiz and was literally running away from him. Now compare that to how Fury and Wilder handle rematches, they dominate, and TKO or make them quit. Ruiz isn't a great boxer, he's short with tiny arms, Joshua shouldn't be losing to guys like that regardless of circumstances. Joshua just doesn't have the skills to beat Tyson Fury, and i don't think he has the heart either. I'm not saying that he's a bad boxer, i think he's defo top 3, but Fury is just on another level to everyone else. Joshua shouldn't lose to Ruiz, I agree. The only way he loses is if he gives up his own advantages and plays to the little fat man's strengths. Which is exactly what he did in the first fight. He got into trading at close range against a guy with no foot movement and short arms. In the rematch he maximised his advantages and took away Ruiz's strengths. But you think that's wide eyed and scared. Which is it? He shouldn't lose? Or he should fight his opponent's fight so he can lose?

I think someone will have to clean him with one punch at this stage. Which can obviously happen at heavyweight. I think Fury will only fight Wilder and AJ. It's the WBC so they're not gonna make him do anything unless he fancies knocking over Charles Martin ffs . With Fury he probably loses to someone not that good who he just relaxes against and gets laid out. I doubt that's Wilder because Wilder has been such an excuse maker that the fire is likely already lit. Charles Martin will finally walk this world like a God, lol

I think Tyson Fury is his own worst enemy. His performances against Cunningham, Wallin, McDermott etc were likely because he over looked his opponents and probably found it mentally difficult to get himself up for those matches. I don't think he has much of an interest in boxing anymore. Three more fights and he should hang em up and go do something else. He's already cemented himself as the best of his era.

I had him losing 7 rounds vs Fat John Mcdermott so he has already lost to me at least. Very successful career since though.

Fury comfortably outboxed Wallin despite the cut and being weight drained, he knocked Cunningham spark out and most people thought he won the first Wilder fight. It's very easy for you to call Wilder useless in retrospect. However I'm pretty sure I remember you picking him to knock Fury out. Fury can lose by a lucky punch, or by a cut, but its clutching at straws really. You Dont remember that because it never happened. I'm not some after timer I've never rated wilder. You will not be able to find a post with me saying a positive thing about him because I Dont rate him and never have. He is a very poor boxer with good Athletic ability and power in the right hand that's it.

The more a boxer fights and who he fights the greater are his chances of losing. Losing is part of boxing as well as winning. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. The longer Tyson Fury fights the greater are his chances of receiving an L. It's inevitable. He already escaped two of them. I don't believe he escapes another one.

I don't agree at all as mentioned he's barely escaped losses twice, if he was stopped by Wallin on cuts no one would have complained and he was hurt badly against Wallin in Round 12. He was outboxed by Cunningham and decided to use his size and weight and was lucky to not be stopped immediately in Wilder 1 fight. I think you are setting yourself up for a major disappointment if you put him on a pedestal because Widler if I'm honest with you isn't very good and never was that doesn't put you ahead of any one really. Wilder is a power puncher who was looked at as a joke by everyone until this stupid UK against US thing started in boxing. Michael Hunter is a much better skilled fighter than Wilder. When Wilder was supposed to go to Russia to fight Povetkin he would have lost to be honest. Fury comfortably outboxed Wallin despite the cut and being weight drained, he knocked Cunningham spark out and most people thought he won the first Wilder fight. It's very easy for you to call Wilder useless in retrospect. However I'm pretty sure I remember you picking him to knock Fury out. Fury can lose by a lucky punch, or by a cut, but its clutching at straws really.

I completely disagree, i just finished watching last nights fights and couldn't help thinking that Fury is just levels above all these bums. I don't agree at all as mentioned he's barely escaped losses twice, if he was stopped by Wallin on cuts no one would have complained and he was hurt badly against Wallin in Round 12. He was outboxed by Cunningham and decided to use his size and weight and was lucky to not be stopped immediately in Wilder 1 fight. I think you are setting yourself up for a major disappointment if you put him on a pedestal because Widler if I'm honest with you isn't very good and never was that doesn't put you ahead of any one really. Wilder is a power puncher who was looked at as a joke by everyone until this stupid UK against US thing started in boxing. Michael Hunter is a much better skilled fighter than Wilder. When Wilder was supposed to go to Russia to fight Povetkin he would have lost to be honest.

A some point unless he retires soon Fury will lose No one goes undefeated at Heavy... ... everyone "bites the dust", eventually -- unless he's heavily protected... (quote from "popular psychology"...)

I agree but it doesn't matter, too many people obsessed with the ZERO on this site, nothing shameful in losing to other good fighters.

Wlad and wilder. Think way he beat chisora in 2nd figtt was pretty impressive too, he didn't land a glove on fury But Wilder is a bum, according to your other post. I didn’t request for you to mention the most popular names on Fury’s resume. I asked, in your opinion, the best 3 fighters he fought. Best, meaning they are the best in your eyes, great wins because he beat a pretty good boxer. You called Wilder a bum, so you can’t count him. In your eyes. he is not good, he’s a bum. Bum boxers are below B level. A bum boxer is an easy win for anyone, usually used as a stepping stone fighter.

Nothing wrong with losses. He didn't cherry pick though and fought everyone who was worth anything

We will see. Ruiz was a huge upset - they happen. He gave him a lesson in the rematch. He showed that styles make fights, and he could adapt his style to one that Ruiz couldn't get near. It was the safe play. But rest assured, Joshua can bang. You don't need to have watched much boxing to know that. I wouldn't compare Wilder's shots to Joshua's in a proper boxing match. Wilder has great power when he steps in, but his technique fails him going backwards. Joshua can hit - he has technique. And his hands are fast enough. It would be a much better fight than Wilder. Did he really give him a lesson in the rematch? To me, he fought wide eyed and scared, he wouldn't go anywhere near Ruiz and was literally running away from him. Now compare that to how Fury and Wilder handle rematches, they dominate, and TKO or make them quit. Ruiz isn't a great boxer, he's short with tiny arms, Joshua shouldn't be losing to guys like that regardless of circumstances. Joshua just doesn't have the skills to beat Tyson Fury, and i don't think he has the heart either. I'm not saying that he's a bad boxer, i think he's defo top 3, but Fury is just on another level to everyone else.

He's one of my fave fighters but hes getting seriously overrated now after beating bum squad. Tbh I think of some of bum squads past opponents hadn't bought into the myth of wilder they would have got stuck into him and took him out too. He's far from unbeatable. That’s an interesting take. Can you list the best fighters, in your opinion, Fury has beaten? For example name who are the top 3 in your opinion.