He's regarded as an All Time Great by many.
Can someone tell me what his best victories were and why? Does he hold any victories over other ATG's?
Using his resume, how would you argue he beats these fighters..
Duran
Mayweather
Mosley
You wont get a real break down because most people here arent old enough and werent watching boxing then.
If you were 20 when Sr was fighting Taylor then you would be 50 today. I think the average age of posters would be well under 50.
If you arent from that era then its harder to rate fighters, you can watch them on a fight by fight basis but you dont have the same understanding of the landscape of the weight classes if you arent taking it all in real time.
New fans wouldn’t know the narratives before the fight as well. It’s all hindsight. For example even for the wilder fight, now he is considered a non boxing skilled heavyweight and would went on to probably lose more fights but before the fury-wilder II fury was the damn underdog..
No, I don't consider them ATG's. However, I wanna thank you for at least trying to defend Chavez's status in the boxing world using his resume, unlike everyone else who says he's great because they've been told so.
There are people who do consider those guys ATG though.
Do you consider Whitaker an ATG? If so based on what wins?
He's regarded as an All Time Great by many.
Can someone tell me what his best victories were and why? Does he hold any victories over other ATG's?
Using his resume, how would you argue he beats these fighters..
Duran
Mayweather
Mosley
How do you see these fights turning out??
Thank you! That's all I wanted to know.
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Chavez' win over Edwin Rosario in 1987 is regarded as his finest performance. That's a little before my time but that's what I have always heard and read as I learn more about boxing history.
The Meldrick Taylor fight in 1990 is extremely controversial. You can look up "HBO Legendary Nights, Chavez-Taylor" to get some more insight about that one.
Thank you! That's all I wanted to know.
Since your teenage azz has only started watched boxing for this last month.
You are not allowed to question an ATG status.
Go watch women’s tennis since you don’t understand the greatness of JCC.
I don't think he was questioning his status. I think he just wants to learn more about a great fighter and we can't complain and say people "don't know ***** about boxing" if we won't even name a fight or two for new fans to go back and watch.
Can you tell me who the absolute best fighters he's faced were, so I can go back and watch please?
Chavez' win over Edwin Rosario in 1987 is regarded as his finest performance. That's a little before my time but that's what I have always heard and read as I learn more about boxing history.
The Meldrick Taylor fight in 1990 is extremely controversial. You can look up "HBO Legendary Nights, Chavez-Taylor" to get some more insight about that one.
No, I don't consider them ATG's. However, I wanna thank you for at least trying to defend Chavez's status in the boxing world using his resume, unlike everyone else who says he's great because they've been told so.
Since when does Chavez status need to be defended? The guy was a boxing machine.
Do you consider Taylor an ATG? What about Rosario or Castillo? Whether or not there is a legitimate ATG on his resume or not, he absolutely mugged a lot of really, really good fighters.
No, I don't consider them ATG's. However, I wanna thank you for at least trying to defend Chavez's status in the boxing world using his resume, unlike everyone else who says he's great because they've been told so.
GREAT question. Great fighters tend to have great victories. The greater the opponent, the greater the victory, the greater the fighter.
Ali over Foreman
Duran over Ray Leonard
Ray Leonard over Hearns
It's easy to see why these fighters are called All Time Greats. As I'm doing my research, I came across the name JCC. He seems to be regarded as an All Time Great by most boxing fans. That being said, I wanted to learn of his great victories in the ring.
Hence this thread, where people are quick to call him great with no mention of his resume. People seem to think he couldn't beat Duran, but could beat Mayweather and Mosley. I don't really care who people pick, I just want to know why, by way of resume. There has to be something about his career that makes people feel one way are another.
What I really want to know are which other All Time Greats he beat. I've asked who the best fighters he beat were, and nobodies been able to answer.
Do you consider Taylor an ATG? What about Rosario or Castillo? Whether or not there is a legitimate ATG on his resume or not, he absolutely mugged a lot of really, really good fighters.
There has to be tons of fighters regarded as great that you don't know much about. Why pick on Chavez?
GREAT question. Great fighters tend to have great victories. The greater the opponent, the greater the victory, the greater the fighter.
Ali over Foreman
Duran over Ray Leonard
Ray Leonard over Hearns
It's easy to see why these fighters are called All Time Greats. As I'm doing my research, I came across the name JCC. He seems to be regarded as an All Time Great by most boxing fans. That being said, I wanted to learn of his great victories in the ring.
Hence this thread, where people are quick to call him great with no mention of his resume. People seem to think he couldn't beat Duran, but could beat Mayweather and Mosley. I don't really care who people pick, I just want to know why, by way of resume. There has to be something about his career that makes people feel one way are another.
What I really want to know are which other All Time Greats he beat. I've asked who the best fighters he beat were, and nobodies been able to answer.
Whitaker was flashier but Chavez was doing a lot of good work that night too.
He wasn't schooled. Chavez had to overcome a serious speed disadvantage.
The reason the backlash for the Whitaker decision is so strong, is because of what happened in the Taylor fight. Some people think Chavez got away with one there and were overly upset when they thought it was happening again. Remember, Chavez was with King back then.
Chavez won like 3-4 rounds tops against Whitaker. He got schooled.
He's regarded as an All Time Great by many.
Can someone tell me what his best victories were and why? Does he hold any victories over other ATG's?
Using his resume, how would you argue he beats these fighters..
Duran
Mayweather
Mosley
There has to be tons of fighters regarded as great that you don't know much about. Why pick on Chavez?
The big deal is that Whitaker schooled Chavez and didn't get the win he deserved.
Whitaker was flashier but Chavez was doing a lot of good work that night too.
He wasn't schooled. Chavez had to overcome a serious speed disadvantage.
The reason the backlash for the Whitaker decision is so strong, is because of what happened in the Taylor fight. Some people think Chavez got away with one there and were overly upset when they thought it was happening again. Remember, Chavez was with King back then.
Beats Mayweather at 135,140 Juiced up Mayweather beats him at 147 Same with Mosley beats 135 Mosley but Balco Mosley beats him at 147 Duran stops him
Yep, Durán would stop him. I think your answer is correct.