Is Wilder's resume really that bad

Correct. Lineal he already had, but the Ring has been the top belt for heavyweights in the past. And WBC for any division is the top belt in the minds of the current era, until Fury defends Ring with pride to restore the prestige.Ok, I gotcha! :beerchug:

It's awful. Consider that his biggest d1ck riders who built him up most were always the hardest on Golovkin, Joshua and even Lomachenko and Usyk's resume and swore that Fury was a bum. Does his resume come close to even Golovkin or Joshua, both who have been overrated I must add? Not remotely. Actually these people say Pacquaio has a trash resume yet Wilder was/is a god and is proven? Hmmmm.

I think Joe Joyce goes through Wilder’s resume and nobody on here seems to think he’s any good. Ortiz might beat Joyce but that’s it.

Well he beat Ortiz twice, some rated Ortiz highly, i never but Ortiz was highly ranked and considered at least top 6 or 7 in many peoples eyes. So he has to get credit. Wilder did agree to fight Povetkin, but Povetkin failed a drugs test. Although that doesn’t add to his resume, he was willing to fight Povetkin when Povetkin was actually wrecking fighters. So he showed he’s not afraid to take tough fights. I don’t know, i think he gets some unfair criticism sometimes, it mostly stems from AJ and Wilder never happening, or it taking a long time for Wilder to step up, he fought 30 nobodies. Once he’s been champ, he’s faced Fury x2 and Ortiz x2. Then a load of top 15 or 20 guys. AJ has fought Parker who isn’t great, then guys like Takam, an old Povetkin, Ruiz who has never really been highly rated. Breazeale etc.. Honestly the level of opposition between AJ and Wilder isn’t massively different. Fury that Wilder fought is better than AJ’s best opponent in Wlad.

There's one issue. In the win, he claimed possession of the three most valuable heavyweight titles. I frankly think that NSB is being harsh about the resume. It runs circles around Crawford's. So by that logic, Spence beating Crawford does nothing for him, either. Which means Crawford doesn't deserve 50-50 split.You mean the ring, lineal and the WBC titles correct?

Good, I am glad to know that the Wilder haters still feel this way. It only helps further discredit Tyson Fury's victory over Deontay "The Bronze Bomber" Wilder. He just defeated a limited, overachieving, unskilled fighter who cannot box with a very thin resume. Therefore, this victory just only confirms that it doesn't catapult Tyson Fury up on the all-time greatest lists or the best P4P lists. Until he defeats the Anthony Joshua's, Dillian Whyte's, Oleksandr Usyk's, Luis Ortiz', Andy Ruiz', the Joseph Parker's and Alexander Povetkin's of the world. Then he is not even in the conversation of being one of the best P4P fighters in the world.

Good, I am glad to know that the Wilder haters still feel this way. It only helps further discredit Tyson Fury's victory over Deontay "The Bronze Bomber" Wilder. He just defeated a limited, overachieving, unskilled fighter who cannot box with a very thin resume. Therefore, this victory just confirms that it doesn't catapult Tyson Fury up on the all-time greatest lists or the best P4P lists.

Good, I am glad to know that the Wilder haters feel that way. That's why Tyson Fury can't get credit for this victory because it was futile. He just defeated a limited, overachieving, unskilled fighter who cannot box with a very thin resume. Therefore, this victory just confirms that it doesn't catapult Tyson Fury up on the all-time greatest or the the best P4P lists.

Its got a pretty good volume of "okay" fighters, respectable B and C level gatekeeper types. The type of opponents you put a solid prospect in with after a 2-3 years of them beating total bums. But the problem is Wilder was facing these kinds of guys until he was 39-0.

I rate his wins over Ortiz but aside from that there's not much there. After Ortiz and the first Stiverne fight, his best win is probably Duhaupas, which says it all really. It's the resume of a prospect who has only just stepped up, except he's 34 years old and probably a few fights away from retirement. He needs to face Joshua, Whyte and Ruiz in order to be remembered as anything more than "that guy Fury clowned" when he retires

Yes it is, look at the ring magazine top 10, Wilder has beaten one guy on that list whereas Joshua has beaten 4. That doesn’t mean Joshua would beat him but it does highlight the difference in resumes. It’s so bad that I’ve seen posters using WBC rankings to say his opponents were top 10. Very sad. I can even make a case for Whyte resume being better than Wilder's resume. He literally hasn't beaten anyone worth mentioning. His best win is Ortiz who in turn hasn't beaten anyone what mentioning.

It's terrible. When you dissect it and compare it to others you can make a case for their resume being better than his.

Is Wilder's resume really that bad as people say it is? would you say its the worst resume of any belt holder in a long time? ... from "that bad" to "the worst" is a long way... Wilder usually fought "in-house" opponents -- except for Fury, who has a draw and a stoppage win vs him...

That’s a triangle theory, and those do not work in boxing. I think wilder has a rubbish resume, but I’d put money he’d land the big right on AJ and stop him. AJ ain’t no fury. AJ would beat Wilder like a rented mule. Why do you think they ducked Joshua ad wouldn't let liar near him? They KNEW he was hype and would be exposed. That's not hating that is a fact. He ducked. He has no character, lies pour from his sorry mouth - he's a liar and his skinny ass would get whooped by AJ. Maybe AJ will give him 20% and beat him up for fun. Wilder is dog poo lad - if you can't see that after Satirday night you should go watch wrestling or monster trucks - this is boxing. Wilder can't box, his right hand is exaggerated, and he ducked all the guys he should have fought, Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Joshua and more - he's crap mate. Get some new eyes. Come backing Fury doesnt duck, I'll put money on AJ. All you schoolgirls getting carried away with Wilder now getting carried away with Fury. He's decent, but on Saturday he beat a nobody.

as people say it is? Yes. It is absolutely a crime how he had it fought Wlad, Povetkin, Whyte, Joshua. He was a beltholder whose manager refused to fight Wlad because he said that he "wasn't ready". Bro...if you're a beltholder you don't get to duck guys who are too risky. Itbwas always blatant ducking. It's so good for boxing now that this lizard's character is in display for all to see- - he's a coward who dissed Joshua and brought the man down while he was refusing to answer e mails and calls and offers. He is a liar. A coward and liar piece of s**t who is blaming his costume and the fact his goldfish died the day of the fight. Can't stand liars, especially the type who'd lie with s straight face and let another man go to jail for it. The guy is garbage.

Terence Crawford. This, one of the worst imo. He didn't fight anybody and he is pushing 33. He is fighting people like he is in his early 20s.

despite his lost is AJ's resume stronger than Wilder's? Weren't you just saying you had to compare them at the same number of fights in your "is Wilder worse than Wlad" thread? Well compare AJ's 24 to Wilders first 24.

Yes it is, look at the ring magazine top 10, Wilder has beaten one guy on that list whereas Joshua has beaten 4. That doesn’t mean Joshua would beat him but it does highlight the difference in resumes. It’s so bad that I’ve seen posters using WBC rankings to say his opponents were top 10. Very sad.

Martin V Washington was a good analogy for AJ and Wilders resumes AJ's "worst" win ktfo one of Wilders top 5 wins That’s a triangle theory, and those do not work in boxing. I think wilder has a rubbish resume, but I’d put money he’d land the big right on AJ and stop him. AJ ain’t no fury.

Nah it's not really that bad...but when you KO everyone, you scare some people...so the only recourse they have is to say all those guys sucked. The laughable part is some people saying Whyte or Parker has a better resume than Wilder...or even Povetkin...Povetkin's is similar...about 10 good wins over OK-Good fighters...mostly by KO. Just factually look at even AJ vs Wilder: AJ has a washed Wlad - good win, great fight Ruiz - and no one really know how good Ruiz is...AJ also has a bad loss to Ruiz 40 year old Povetkin, who just drew with Michael Hunter Uneventful hometown 12 round UD over Parker Hometown TKO over Takam in 10...who was legit TKOd by Chisora right after that in 8 And then Whyte (who for some reason - well we know what reason - some are really high on him) Breazeale, Molina and Martin...3 of them are just OK and we don't know exactly how good Whyte is. Wilder: Draw with out of shape Fury Worked over by an in shape Fury Ortiz Ortiz And then Stiverne 1 (Stiverne 2 I can't really give a ton of credit for)...Brezeale, Molina, Washington, Spilzka, Arreola, Duhapaus. You could argue AJ has a couple more impressive 'good' wins...and Wilder has a few more 'OK' wins right now...which makes a bit of sense as Wilder has more fights, and AJ was pushed sooner in his career than Wilder was, and also as a mega A-side has been able to pick his fights a bit easier. Anyone who can look at those 2 groups of fights and swear up and down that AJ's resume is golden and Wilder's is bad is just a fanboy imho...but we have many of those on here so I'm sure this post will stir up some tears and emotional responses in efforts to defend their heroes.