I'm done with Wilder

are you ****in numbskull or what...Joshua took his world title shot with 16 pro fights in his last 8 fights he has beaten klitchcko , povetkin , Parker , Ruiz , lost and the won back the world title , unified belts , he is still only 24 belts .....wilder has faced 1 so called dangerous fighter in Ortiz whose claim to fame is stopping Bryant Jennings....got a lucky draw against fury and was absolutely smashed in the rematch , had 41 fights almost all of them were either bums or light punchers. Joshua pisses all over wilders and he has faced half as many. Go away silly and get some knowledge Man I literally laid out for you that AJ has not faced bigger punchers than Wilder...it's just not true man. AJ does appear to have a worse chin than Wilder and worse stamina, but there are still some things we don't know about both guys there so we will see. And yeah AJ went life and death with a shot Wlad in a great fight...very good win for him. Hyping up AJ's wins over 40 year old Povetkin, Whyte, and Parker...while getting on Wilder's 2 wins over Ortiz, just shows you are not an objective guy...you're just a fan...but have fun with that, this world has room for fans too. Just leave the analysis part out and stick to rooting for your buddies ;)

So you're really trying to say that Whyte - whose best and only real KO is 35 YO Chisora in the 11th round...it took him 6 rounds to KO Lucas Browne for God's sake...is a big puncher, but Ortiz isn't..got it. I just kind of proved you wrong man about the puncher's each guy has faced...a decent man would say, 'yeah you're right, they aren't that different' But the facts don't seem to matter to you, only the narrative... To say Wilder has been protected but AJ hasn't...I mean lol man... Yeah I really hope Wilder gets to face AJ...I have little doubt now that he KOs AJ...and would definitely KO Whyte lol...the fighters UK people hype up is absolutely ridiculous sometimes. There are some great fighters from there...but you guys overrate some real doozies too. are you ****in numbskull or what...Joshua took his world title shot with 16 pro fights in his last 8 fights he has beaten klitchcko , povetkin , Parker , Ruiz , lost and the won back the world title , unified belts , he is still only 24 belts .....wilder has faced 1 so called dangerous fighter in Ortiz whose claim to fame is stopping Bryant Jennings....got a lucky draw against fury and was absolutely smashed in the rematch , had 41 fights almost all of them were either bums or light punchers. Joshua pisses all over wilders and he has faced half as many. Go away silly and get some knowledge

who actually has ortiz beaten , just Bryant Jennings and that’s it , the bottom line is wilder got gifted a draw with fury the 1st fight and then was utterly destroyed in the rematch by a fighter not considered a big puncher , he was embarrassed and was completely outmatched. Joshua lost for a reason and one day that will be told but he never made excuses and went away and adapted his style to best a ruiz , like it or not he came back and did a shut out. Now he is champion , wilder on the other hand has no way of adapting his style and will never win a title again. Povetkin is a puncher , whyte can punch and so is klitchcko. Wilder has been fed bums and now that’s been exposed So you're really trying to say that Whyte - whose best and only real KO is 35 YO Chisora in the 11th round...it took him 6 rounds to KO Lucas Browne for God's sake...is a big puncher, but Ortiz isn't..got it. I just kind of proved you wrong man about the puncher's each guy has faced...a decent man would say, 'yeah you're right, they aren't that different' But the facts don't seem to matter to you, only the narrative... To say Wilder has been protected but AJ hasn't...I mean lol man... Yeah I really hope Wilder gets to face AJ...I have little doubt now that he KOs AJ...and would definitely KO Whyte lol...the fighters UK people hype up is absolutely ridiculous sometimes. There are some great fighters from there...but you guys overrate some real doozies too.

Frank Bruno never lost to anyone as bad as Andy Ruiz man...he lost to Tyson Lennox and Bonecrusher Smith lol...maybe Witherspoon but he was pretty good then. Lol at saying AJ has faced punchers and Wilder hasn't...Ortiz has 26 KOs in 31 fights...so there's 2 fights with him. Lol at Whyte being a power puncher but Breazeale, Stiverne, Washington not being...Whyte I think has the lowest KO ratio of all of those guys. Ruiz has 22 KOs in 33 wins Whyte 18 KOs in 27 wins Povetkin has 24 KOs in 35 wins...and he was 40 Breazeale 18 KOs in 20 wins Ortiz 26 KOs in 31 wins...2 fights with Ortiz btw Stiverne 21 KOs in 25 wins Washington 13 KOs in 20 wins Doesn't look like AJ is facing bigger punchers to me...I will grant you Wlad of course. Facts just don't matter to most people on here...just whatever narrative they want to be true. who actually has ortiz beaten , just Bryant Jennings and that’s it , the bottom line is wilder got gifted a draw with fury the 1st fight and then was utterly destroyed in the rematch by a fighter not considered a big puncher , he was embarrassed and was completely outmatched. Joshua lost for a reason and one day that will be told but he never made excuses and went away and adapted his style to best a ruiz , like it or not he came back and did a shut out. Now he is champion , wilder on the other hand has no way of adapting his style and will never win a title again. Povetkin is a puncher , whyte can punch and so is klitchcko. Wilder has been fed bums and now that’s been exposed

Lol lol little buddy??? Ok old tough man lol lol lol lol I mean I explained myself quite clearly a few times and you seemed to not want to get the point man...so yeah you seem like a small man or a child. I'm in my 30s and 6'2 210...if you are really tougher than me, congrats, you are one of a few little fella.

To be fair there’s a few there. Tell me this, did you want to hear AJ’s excuses? Thanks for admitting that at least...and again, I just think it is normal human nature to make excuses after a loss...if you don't, you are conceding that you could never beat that guy/team. I don't care for excuses at all really...injury etc doesn't matter to me...you show up on the night, fight/play, and see if it is good enough...if it isn't, and you want to try again...regroup and come at it from a different angle. Making excuses to me is just someone trying to find a way to win the next time...I'd rather people keep those excuses to themselves...but boxers are in the self-promotion business so I don't really hold it against them. If a normal athlete made those excuses publicly, I would say 'whatever dude, just play and try and win next time'...but normal athletes aren't trying to sell their games...their performances basically 100% dictate their pay. For a fighter/boxer...their performance is important...but so is how you sell yourself...we see that with Broner, Floyd, Canelo, AJ etc...AJ is a bigger star and more profitable than Fury not because he is necessarily better, but because he sells himself better.

Wilder fans are even dumber and more delusional then Wilder. I was a Wilder fan and rooting for him, even wanted to see the trilogy until he started opening his mouth. My god how stupid can you be to think all the things he’s saying will be positive for him.

It’s okay, his excuses will make for a fun lead in to the third fight. Fury will make a lot of funny jokes!! :D

Huh? He made a lot of excuses...about 20 minutes worth here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLUc5ZvmEc&feature=emb_logo To be fair there’s a few there. Tell me this, did you want to hear AJ’s excuses?

I'm not even a fan of his...I'm more of a fan of Fury's...and picked Fury to win. Yeah AJ did make excuses though...he just voiced in a different, more polished, gentlemanly way...but everyone makes excuses when they lose. You could say it wasn't the same type of excuses as Wilder...that's fair...but yes still excuses...and who cares...any time you lose, you have to make excuses otherwise you are conceding that you can never beat that guy/team. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=fzLUc5ZvmEc&feature=emb_logo The whole video above, for example. 2:55 in particular...talking about how he looked past Ruiz, towards his next fight which he thought would be with Wilder. 4:55 - 'everything it meant to Ruiz winning, is everything it didn't mean to me beating him' EXCUSES!! Come on man just keep it real Men shouldn’t make excuses. Women shouldn’t make excuses either. Nobody wants to hear them. I dunno I work a career where I have a moral duty to tell the truth too. But it doesn’t sit right with most adult human tbh. We know when someone is chatting s.hit and it annoys us. 100% AJ took his loss well. A few pointed out for you above, just fyi.

Men shouldn’t make excuses. Women shouldn’t make excuses either. Nobody wants to hear them. I dunno I work a career where I have a moral duty to tell the truth too. But it doesn’t sit right with most adult human tbh. We know when someone is chatting s.hit and it annoys us. 100% AJ took his loss well. Huh? He made a lot of excuses...about 20 minutes worth here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLUc5ZvmEc&feature=emb_logo

Maybe it's just me...but I would rather a guy fight like a warrior in the ring, and make some excuses afterwards as to why he lost...vs taking the easy way out in a fight and then acting like a gentleman. Don't get me wrong, I respect a guy who acts like a gentleman, 100%...but everyone makes excuses after they lose really, in some form or fashion...you have to, otherwise you are basically saying you have 0 chance to beat that guy and never could...how often do we ever hear that? Never...guys always have an 'excuse'...just human nature. Wilder is just trying to find something to help himself cope, and find some fuel mentally to figure out how to beat Fury/again be the top man (which he viewed himself as)...also, importantly, boxers are their own promoters, so I don't really hold their 'crazy' words against them...they have to be their own hype man and sometimes that includes saying crazy stuff to get attention. That may not be Wilder's intention here...but he showed a lot of heart in there against a bigger better (on the night) fighter...hats off to him and I think he will bounce back...would still love to see him KO AJ. Men shouldn’t make excuses. Women shouldn’t make excuses either. Nobody wants to hear them. I dunno I work a career where I have a moral duty to tell the truth too. But it doesn’t sit right with most adult human tbh. We know when someone is chatting s.hit and it annoys us. 100% AJ took his loss well.

well he just skated a 12 round decision and showed good stamina in winning that. I suspect it’s due to him carrying to much muscle and he came in lighter in the Ruiz rematch and showed no stamina issues. Next answer AJ chin is not a George chuvalo or Evander holyfields but he been clocked and he’s also got up and he has never avoided a puncher like wilder has....Joshua has faced punchers in Whyte,klitchcko,povetkin and Ruiz and mostly took his digs and came back. Joshua is far more talented than a Bruno and if you think that then you shouldn’t be watching boxing. Joshua boxed a clinic in his last fight and will only get better now imo Frank Bruno never lost to anyone as bad as Andy Ruiz man...he lost to Tyson Lennox and Bonecrusher Smith lol...maybe Witherspoon but he was pretty good then. Lol at saying AJ has faced punchers and Wilder hasn't...Ortiz has 26 KOs in 31 fights...so there's 2 fights with him. Lol at Whyte being a power puncher but Breazeale, Stiverne, Washington not being...Whyte I think has the lowest KO ratio of all of those guys. Ruiz has 22 KOs in 33 wins Whyte 18 KOs in 27 wins Povetkin has 24 KOs in 35 wins...and he was 40 Breazeale 18 KOs in 20 wins Ortiz 26 KOs in 31 wins...2 fights with Ortiz btw Stiverne 21 KOs in 25 wins Washington 13 KOs in 20 wins Doesn't look like AJ is facing bigger punchers to me...I will grant you Wlad of course. Facts just don't matter to most people on here...just whatever narrative they want to be true.

Yeah well Andy Ruiz beat AJ so who knows. Lennox had some bad losses as well...but also much better wins than AJ so far...but AJ is young so we will see. AJ has suspect cardio, chin, and punch resistance as well...so I'm not really sold on him being a big time player...certainly reminiscent of a Frank Bruno...and no shame in that really. well he just skated a 12 round decision and showed good stamina in winning that. I suspect it’s due to him carrying to much muscle and he came in lighter in the Ruiz rematch and showed no stamina issues. Next answer AJ chin is not a George chuvalo or Evander holyfields but he been clocked and he’s also got up and he has never avoided a puncher like wilder has....Joshua has faced punchers in Whyte,klitchcko,povetkin and Ruiz and mostly took his digs and came back. Joshua is far more talented than a Bruno and if you think that then you shouldn’t be watching boxing. Joshua boxed a clinic in his last fight and will only get better now imo

There are excuses and there are excuses. I mean, wrong game plan, lack of preparation, underestimating your opponent are OK in my book. Heavy costume, however... Hmm... I hear ya...again I think when your livelihood depends on people tuning in to see you fight...you get some leeway from me as far as what comes out of your mouth. This isn't like other sports where your salary is basically fixed and is tied into how well you play the sport...in fight sports, your salary depends not really on how good you are...but on how much people want to tune in to see you fight. The more attention the better, you could argue.

not that high and I don’t think fury beats Joshua. Joshua will only get better now And none of them can hold a candle to a Lennox Lewis. Yeah well Andy Ruiz beat AJ so who knows. Lennox had some bad losses as well...but also much better wins than AJ so far...but AJ is young so we will see. AJ has suspect cardio, chin, and punch resistance as well...so I'm not really sold on him being a big time player...certainly reminiscent of a Frank Bruno...and no shame in that really.

There are excuses and there are excuses. I mean, wrong game plan, lack of preparation, underestimating your opponent are OK in my book. Heavy costume, however... Hmm...

So how highly do you rate Fury? not that high and I don’t think fury beats Joshua. Joshua will only get better now And none of them can hold a candle to a Lennox Lewis.

Since so many fans of Fury are saying Wilder is a bum, I assume they think Fury isn’t much better. Right...well said

So how highly do you rate Fury? Since so many fans of Fury are saying Wilder is a bum, I assume they think Fury isn’t much better.