Is Fury the best "Rise to the Occasion" fighter of all time?

Yeah, i always said that. Fury at his best competes in any era, win or lose, he would be a handful for anyone. I also think he probably beats any version of Wlad, just all wrong for Wlad. Steward even told Wlad that Fury was the man to beat him. I know Fury v Wlad was a boring fight, but Fury just nullified him. If Wlad had any more to offer, Fury would’ve just raised his level too. I’m not going to say he was greater than Wlad per se, because Fury hasn’t shown any good reign as a champ. But head to head, i think prime Fury beats prime Wlad just based on styles alone. I’ve always felt that. One thing we can say for sure is that Fury has multiple wins now that are better than any of Wlad's wins.

You didn’t call it. I didn’t call it. No one did. That guy said so himself. https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20407857#post20407857 I did. I doubt he read my review.

I'm struggling to find anyone in history i'd have as a firm favourite over Fury. Some people won't like to hear that. I'd favor a prime Vitali Klitskcho and Lennox Lewis over him but those are the only guys I can think of.

It is amazing how absolutely no one called it. It will go down in history as the one no one called. And you can’t say what you said about Fury being the best rise to the occasion fighter. You’re essentially calling him the greatest fighter of all time. I called it. The fight went exactly the way I expected, I could not see no other result other than what happened

I'm struggling to find anyone in history i'd have as a firm favourite over Fury. Some people won't like to hear that. Yeah, i always said that. Fury at his best competes in any era, win or lose, he would be a handful for anyone. I also think he probably beats any version of Wlad, just all wrong for Wlad. Steward even told Wlad that Fury was the man to beat him. I know Fury v Wlad was a boring fight, but Fury just nullified him. If Wlad had any more to offer, Fury would’ve just raised his level too. I’m not going to say he was greater than Wlad per se, because Fury hasn’t shown any good reign as a champ. But head to head, i think prime Fury beats prime Wlad just based on styles alone. I’ve always felt that.

I'm struggling to find anyone in history i'd have as a firm favourite over Fury. Some people won't like to hear that. I've been saying it for years mate and got laughed at for it. There isn't a boxer throughout history that has Fury's combination of physical attributes, skills, speed, footwork and ring IQ. When Fury beats Wilder again, and then Joshua, a lot more people than me will believe he's one of greatest HW's of all time. People might not like to hear it, but facts are facts.

He's one of the best HW's of all time period. I'm struggling to find anyone in history i'd have as a firm favourite over Fury. Some people won't like to hear that.

That's an excuse for his draw. Marciano knows nothing about making excuses for draws. Mayweather doesn't either. Maybe if he came in with the proper game plan or adapted quick enough he'd've ended that fight with a KO too, but he didn't, he boxed, got KD'd twice, and was only a few punches ahead the entire fight. If he was as adaptable as the pure 0's he wouldn't have that draw. He did just prove he never needed to make it a twelve round fight, he never needed to risk being KO'd or KD'd. He just came in with the wrong tactics.....that's not rising to the occasion bud. It wasn't a draw, it was a clear Fury win, despite Fury being at his worst and Wilder at his best.

You'd have to say Fury is up there.

Uh, no, he has a draw and Rocky don't. He's usually ahead on his score cards and Marciano wasn't. Tyson may not be favored by odds makers often, but, neither was Marciano. I could be wrong on that last one....Ty was not favored for Wlad or Wilder was he? Either way, makes no difference, Marciano wasn't favored, was not ahead on points, was not supposed to win, did not get the memo and went on KO'ing fools anyway. What're going to say about Marciano? But him fought oldens? So did Tyson. His peer group wins are not so highly skilled? Tyson's best peer group win is Wilder. It proves Tyson's got chin and that's like all it proves. No I'm not just a bitter Wilder hater. I said the same **** when they fought the first. A draw, Marciano knows nothing about a draw. Always found that W. Fury won the first fight in the eyes of most, despite only being 50% fit and having to lose 10 stone and beating a drug and alcohol addiction. Nobody beats this version of Tyson, and he'd have smashed the midget Marciano into little bits.

I've said it since the first Fury fight I watched. He fights to the level of his opposition. Most fights out of the 31 have been inferior to him. Although he managed a win against Wlad and a draw against Wilder the first time. He found the kryptonite so to speak in Wilder 2 but saying he's the best " rise to the occasion fighter ever " is extremely far fetched cause let's be honest there's not been huge amount of competition. Pure respect for Fury talent and entertainment wise. He can do big things with a good dance partner.

He's one of the best HW's of all time period.

The thing about Ali is though, in the fights where he "rose to the occasion" he wasn't dominant like Fury was, in fact he got battered in some of those fights. Fury rose several levels above what everyone expected of him in his big fights. I admit that Ali's competition was also levels above Fury's though so I understand your point.

No that would be Ali, but Fury has that about him. Manny Steward called this in 2012, absolutely amazing boxing mind that Steward had

Ali or SRL? I'm still in awe of this performance but have to keep reminding myself that I've been calling Wilder a manufactured champion for years. Fury was right when he said that if he'd lost to Wilder he would have been a bum. He just beat the worst long reigning champion of all time.

Before the Klitschko fight Fury hadn't really shown much in his career to date that he would be able to handle Klitschko's experience and power. He was a 5-1 dog and ended up outboxing Klitschko in a shut out. Fast forward 3 years and nothing in the 2 tune ups Fury had suggested that he was ready for Wilder. Again practically a shutout when you take out the 2 knockdowns. And for the rematch no one expected it to be a one sided beating the way it did. He again showed us something that we'd never seen before in his career. He turned into a power punching monster overnight. Even though I picked Fury in all 3 of these fights I acknowledge that there was no real evidence that I was basing it on. I just like Fury as a personality and hoped that he had that special something in him to be a great fighter and he proved me right. Agreed. Im only supporting him because he’s funny, a great character and his self belief is second to none. He talks a lot smarter than a lot of guys in boxing too. I enjoy his interviews a lot. I rooted for him in the first fight eventhough im scared every minute for him because i wanted to see a comeback from whatever demons he had. He looked shlt against the seferis and pianetas of the world and wallins that’s why many were counting him out on the second one... but i keep on arguing to his haters here that we also said the same thing prior to the 1st wilder fight and he still outboxed wilder with ease. So basing his performance to his previous poor performances is really not the way to go with fury. Nor with his physique.