Muhammed Ali and Mike Tyson would be even money. Maybe Vitali as well.
Come at me.
Tyson's size, reach, weight, versatility, will to win, durability, chin and ability to adapt make him a MASSIVE problem for any boxer throughout history. He could dance and jab to a draw at worst against all the better boxers and maul all the smaller guys.
Only Lennox has the complete package with elite ATG jab and power as well as huge strength to be considered a favourite over Fury.
Thoughts?
I wouldn’t say just Lennox Lewis, but Fury is looking damn good to me right now. If he keeps his head in the game, he could go down as one of the all-time greats. I haven’t — no one has — ever seen a boxer as big as he is move the way he does. Tyson’s a slick, mobile 6’9” fighter (makes me shake my head just writing that), with a solid jaw, great heart, nice stamina, a decent punch and excellent ring IQ. I wouldn’t necessarily make him the underdog in any matchup, not with all those attributes.
I'd also favor prime Bowe over Fury.
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U seen that Tyny Muy Thai boy kick him back to Timbuktu?
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I don’t know what’s more sad. Wilder making lame excuses or one of his fanboys. It’s pretty close though. Open the window and let some of the gay out because the air is thick with it in your place ha.
the third - whats worse is someone mistaking someone who hates wilder for a fan of his.
way too easy.
Wilder won 2 rounds. 4 if you're being super generous.
It's pretty much mathematically impossible to have wilder winning that fight man. I'd say 98% of people thought Fury won easily.
Well I never scored it for Wilder and haven't seen many who have...I do think a draw was very possible, and in fact the right score.
The first 6 rounds were very tight, tense, feel out rounds..some seem to give rounds to one guy (defensive guy/underdog) in a fight where not much action happens sometimes...I don't give credit for feinting and posturing and acting like a jive turkey in there either.
I am just scoring the action in there...and in the first 6 rounds, the action was very even...Fury's 8 pitty pat shots to Wilder's 6 slightly better shots...that makes for close rounds when that happens.
People swearing Fury won 10-2 or something there...I mean I just don't think a lot of people on here really know how to score a fight...and then a lot of others don't really want to score them correctly...just trying to find any reason to give their guy a round.
Last 6 rounds was clear 4-2 for Fury...first 6...I could see 4-2 for Fury...and think 3-3 was the right score...give those rounds another watch sometime.
I think "big george" was only 220-230 in his younger years. The older foreman would of been too slow for fury.
My bad. That 220-230 for a young foreman is right.
I'd pick Lewis, Holmes, Ali, Liston. My all-time favorite heavyweights are Holyfield and Frazier but I think the size could be an issue but don't forget how well they fought inside unlike Wilder. They also had more guts than Wilder, more mental strength and chins. Bowe I think has a great shot. A big man who could fight great inside though I think Fury probable boxes and moves on him. Foreman could comb him out but could also get gassed early and slapped around. Louis you'd have to favor over Fury too despite the size differential. Fury beats any Wlad or Vitali IMO.
Tyson vs. Tyson? I think Fury is all wrong for him. It's very early to tell though. Let's see Fury be an active champion and fight Joshua, Usyk, some more different styles and sizes.
Tyson popped right back up. Looks pretty brutal when it’s a 6’9 giant dropping but I assure you the knockdown was of the flash variety.
And besides... Henry Cooper dropped and nearly KO’d Ali with a similar rogue wave sort of shot. We don’t hold that against him, do we? Sometimes the stars align for these journeymen and they nearly take out a legend.
besides which ali used hos elbow to trap Cooper to survive?
I dont get why you would use an argument that instantly fails. It just means you got to try again the next day.
It's more his complete skills and ability to adjust and fight a bunch of different fights whoever the opponent is
I get that because he is the most complete HW in the game right now but I don’t think his resume and quality of opponents is high enough that all the greats of the past are underdogs or without a chance.
His resume is literally Wlad and Wilder, those are great wins but unless you’re saying those 2 are the toughest fights for Fury in heavyweight history then I think this thread is indeed a product of recency bias.
Wilder was supposedly well on his way to being one of the greatest HWs of all time according numerous people on here before Saturday night, bring up that notion now and you’d be laughed at by the majority.
The recency bias is real in this thread, if Fury loses to Joshua or someone else within the next year or 2 then some of the comments in this thread will look a bit silly.
It's more his complete skills and ability to adjust and fight a bunch of different fights whoever the opponent is
The recency bias is real in this thread, if Fury loses to Joshua or someone else within the next year or 2 then some of the comments in this thread will look a bit silly.
I think Fury vs Vitali would have been a very very interesting fight. Two slippery giants, Vitali actually the more slippery of the two.
Foreman would also be an interesting matchup.
I do have Fury trouncing most of the mythologized '70s guys, but it was really more like a cruiser division back then.
Let’s not get carried away I’ma fury fan but he has a good win over a past prime Wlad a decent win over an honestly unproven wilder and a ok win against a resurgent chisora this is his résumé he’s very good but let’s calm down a bit
Lennox Lewis is the only fighter ever I would have as a favourite over Tyson Fury
Muhammed Ali and Mike Tyson would be even money. Maybe Vitali as well.
Come at me.
Tyson's size, reach, weight, versatility, will to win, durability, chin and ability to adapt make him a MASSIVE problem for any boxer throughout history. He could dance and jab to a draw at worst against all the better boxers and maul all the smaller guys.
Only Lennox has the complete package with elite ATG jab and power as well as huge strength to be considered a favourite over Fury.
Thoughts?
... Yes, sure... no doubt...
... And I guess that Pythagoras (the ancient Greek Olympic champ) would have been favorite as well, right?
Well said. Fury hasn’t even beat Joshua lol.
People easily forget. Fury really stunk it up in the Vlad fight. A fight that neither fighter really deserved the win.
I understand Steve Cunningham, a middling contender, had Tyson down and likely out if Fury had not trapped him on the ropes with his elbow. frekin cheat fury.
If Cunningham can KO him, hundreds f others can.
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Steve Cunningham dropped Fury and had him on Queer Street.
80s Mike Tyson would have destroyed Tyson Fury.
Vitali would have beaten Fury as well. Vitali would have stopped Wilder if they had fought.
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