I am not talking about the bits and pieces champions like Bruno or Briggs, I am talking about legitimate belt holders who have been hyped by the media and fans.
I have never ever seen any of that type of champion beaten, pillar to post, so completely, humiliated and degraded so absolutely. Not Liston, not Foreman, heck not even Tyson.
Jeeeeeez! :boxing:
As I have posted on here today, and previously the guy has a howitzer right hand and therefore has a chance against anybody. That's not why I dislike him. I dislike him for being a liar and a classless mo fo.
He'd be a bigger draw if he added a wee bit of humility to his schtick
Karma though, brings guys like this back to reality.
I agree 100%. Some of the **** that comes out of his mouth makes me cringe. I'm neither way on him winning or losing but being a class champion you and I are definitely in agreement.
Bruh you clearly hate Wilder. You sound like those geeks that favor apple over Samsung. Even in a trilogy Wilder still has the punchers chance. If you were a true student of the game you would realize with slight adjustments Wilder would find plenty of openings for the right hand. Relax though as I see Wilder's ego isn't going to allow him to make adjustments so I see Fury doing pretty much more of the same. What ever ill will you have for him. At least you got to see him defeated.
As I have posted on here today, and previously the guy has a howitzer right hand and therefore has a chance against anybody. That's not why I dislike him. I dislike him for being a liar and a classless mo fo.
He'd be a bigger draw if he added a wee bit of humility to his schtick
Karma though, brings guys like this back to reality.
Wilder can’t box worth shit, but he KOs practically anyone not named Tyson Fury. Deontay would get smoked by several historical champions, but that right hand puts him in the mix with a lot of names.
Wilder was only a draw cos he fought Fury. He was struggling to gain his own fan base and was always a poor ticket seller.
PPV flop that guy
Bruh you clearly hate Wilder. You sound like those geeks that favor apple over Samsung. Even in a trilogy Wilder still has the punchers chance. If you were a true student of the game you would realize with slight adjustments Wilder would find plenty of openings for the right hand. Relax though as I see Wilder's ego isn't going to allow him to make adjustments so I see Fury doing pretty much more of the same. What ever ill will you have for him. At least you got to see him defeated.
Yep. Wilder put asses in seats. People want to see knockouts.
Wilder was only a draw cos he fought Fury. He was struggling to gain his own fan base and was always a poor ticket seller.
PPV flop that guy
Him, jeff lacy and broner probably the most over hyped in modern era. People had broner top 5 p4p at one point lol.
Don't forget Mike Jones. Certain fans were saying he was going to mess Paquiao up.
lol I see, that didn't really answer my question but its all good. I agree with some of your points as well, thanks
I know I'm going overboard on Wilder a bit too much- I dislike him because he's a liar mainly.
Joshua is a good lad and has been treated very poorly by Wilder and Finkel. Lying about AJ was cowardly and low. No need either - Wilder could stop anyone with his right hand, he'd be a big underdog (imo) against AJ but should have taken it at the time they offered the 120,000,000.00.
Finkel is a sour faced old liar, Wilder could surely find better representation than that guy.
He, like Bernard Hopkins, often makes anti- white statements.
FWIW, in the states, there is massive racism against blacks, especially as it comes into play from cops. But not all white people are *******s, especially Brits. We are about 200 years ahead of the states in thsi regard. How the f**k a ****phobic racist like Trump can even stand a chance in your next election- that is a mystery. The USA thinks the world wants to be like it - but it's a laughing stock right now, in politics as well as boxing.
lol I see, that didn't really answer my question but its all good. I agree with some of your points as well, thanks
what is your definition of racist? just truly asking because ive seen this word misused trying to understand what makes a person racist, bringing up what happened to their ancestors? loving and being proud of their own race? trying to really understand what u all mean by wilder and any black man who openly loves his race is racist. How is saying Til this day racist bro. just asking
He, like Bernard Hopkins, often makes anti- white statements.
FWIW, in the states, there is massive racism against blacks, especially as it comes into play from cops. But not all white people are *******s, especially Brits. We are about 200 years ahead of the states in thsi regard. How the f**k a ****phobic racist like Trump can even stand a chance in your next election- that is a mystery. The USA thinks the world wants to be like it - but it's a laughing stock right now, in politics as well as boxing.
Joshua calling Eddie Chambers a "disgrace to the superior black race." is pretty racist IMO, but the Hearniacs are pretty silent on that one.
lol yeah I really need understanding, they sure swept that one under the rug along with jimmy Saville
Wilder is the real deal, or was assuming Fury didn't break his confidence. That's what this is about, Fury is truly one of the all time greats. Clearly the best HW since Lewis imo. Wilder should get credit for the heart he showed, hell, even the balls to step up and fight.
It's kind of ridiculous claiming Wilder is all hype when Joshua is still hiding under a table somewhere, petrified of fighting either Fury or Wilder, probably Ortiz too for that matter. Wilder was in there with an ATG and he never quit, compare that to Joshua's "performance" against Mexican Winnie the pooh.
Oh just f**k off with any AJ ducking Wikder talk ok.
You are utterly embarrassing yourself with this talk. We know it was Finkel and Wilder ducking - AJ been begging for the fight and Wikder admits it. If you believe Deontay Wilder about any of that ***** you probably believe he lost cos his costume was too heavy.
Lord save me from the American imbeciles - do they just watch infomercials all day and can't discern any ***** from reality?
It's exhausting trying to talk some sense into these Wilder morons.
what is your definition of racist? just truly asking because ive seen this word misused trying to understand what makes a person racist, bringing up what happened to their ancestors? loving and being proud of their own race? trying to really understand what u all mean by wilder and any black man who openly loves his race is racist. How is saying Til this day racist bro. just asking
Joshua calling Eddie Chambers a "disgrace to the superior black race." is pretty racist IMO, but the Hearniacs are pretty silent on that one.
Don't be stupid. Wilder was ducking AJ and the reason was BECAUSE HE WAS A TOTALLY MANUFACTURED AMERICAN HYPE JOB.
We now know the duck was official as DiBella confirmed it. That was only the confirmation for brainless people who can't discern a phoney when.they see one. It was obvious long before that, with his lies and lies and Finkel not answering the phone and e mails. Just a hype job, that's all. I'm kinda glad this piece of turd is taking the rematch because without a heavy costume I am pretty sure he wont get battered again from pillar to post, lol.
Nope- he has to go in there and take another beating because his white slave master Finkel has ordered him to. The irony here is that Wilder himself is a racist, keeps banging on about "to this day" while he himself won t stand up to his white master
what is your definition of racist? just truly asking because ive seen this word misused trying to understand what makes a person racist, bringing up what happened to their ancestors? loving and being proud of their own race? trying to really understand what u all mean by wilder and any black man who openly loves his race is racist. How is saying Til this day racist bro. just asking
Wilder did something really well which was ko people. He didnt need the other skills. So he did things others couldnt. Not everyone got the same skills.
Yes, Fury beat WIlder, but not everyone is as brave as Furry and as confident. If fury didnt have the confidence but still had the same skills and abilities he might not have beat Wilder.
But Wilder might be easier to beat now, and then people really will say Wilder was overated?
Yes, Fury paved way for Wilder to look overated for sure
I know you're new to boxing and all, but Liston got one punch dropped for his title by someone so much smaller that people still call it a fix. Tyson was dominated by Lewis, and Foreman got outboxed and dominated by a ****ing AIDS patient.
If anything, Wilder was dominated just as much as Anthony Joshua was by an unranked Andy Ruiz.
Try harder.
Don't be stupid. Wilder was ducking AJ and the reason was BECAUSE HE WAS A TOTALLY MANUFACTURED AMERICAN HYPE JOB.
We now know the duck was official as DiBella confirmed it. That was only the confirmation for brainless people who can't discern a phoney when.they see one. It was obvious long before that, with his lies and lies and Finkel not answering the phone and e mails. Just a hype job, that's all. I'm kinda glad this piece of turd is taking the rematch because without a heavy costume I am pretty sure he wont get battered again from pillar to post, lol.
Nope- he has to go in there and take another beating because his white slave master Finkel has ordered him to. The irony here is that Wilder himself is a racist, keeps banging on about "to this day" while he himself won t stand up to his white master
Wilder is the real deal, or was assuming Fury didn't break his confidence. That's what this is about, Fury is truly one of the all time greats. Clearly the best HW since Lewis imo. Wilder should get credit for the heart he showed, hell, even the balls to step up and fight.
It's kind of ridiculous claiming Wilder is all hype when Joshua is still hiding under a table somewhere, petrified of fighting either Fury or Wilder, probably Ortiz too for that matter. Wilder was in there with an ATG and he never quit, compare that to Joshua's "performance" against Mexican Winnie the pooh.
so losing to one of the other top men in your division now makeshim the biggest hype in HW history??? he was just a puncher, people like KOs, its understandable that you have a strong dislike for him but to insult others who supported him and go this far is a bit too much
Yeah but, I think we basically all collectively understood that Deontay was a lacking fighter. Maybe a few delusional fanboys here and there but, most of us knew he was bad.
It was just fun to see someone so consistently escape trouble with a huge KO out of nowhere. Until now anyway. It was a pretty interesting ride while it lasted.
Miguel Cotto gets my vote. I like Cotto as a fighter but he was possibly the worst MW Champ in the last 50 years. Miguel had 2 wins above 154, one was to a weight drained Geale and the other was to a crippled Martinez.
The fact that Canelo couldn't KO the older, smaller, shot Cotto told me a lot about the diva.