What do you think he needs to change the most in order to have a good chance at winning? Just looking for the KO clearly won’t work so he needs to do something a lot different.
Straighten out those shots. Learn a pull counter and check hook. Jab more. Learn distance. Don’t wing wild shots at ridiculous angles. Watch your feet. Better balance.
Lateral footwork and head movements would make it harder for Fury to get a feel of the punching range, versus Deontay backing straight against the ropes and getting trapped. Those attributes along with others that need to be worked out can make the 3rd rematch competitve.
He needs to hope that Fury falls off in terms of discipline. And he needs to come in lighter, he doesn't have good legs and balance and it's worse when he's heavier.
That said, I think Fury has his number now.
Get To Fury First! He has to be FIRST! Also stay off that Backfoot vs a guy who is Taller and Longer than you. Tall guys are usually uncomfortable with Lateral Movement so he is going to need Lateral Movement consistently TURNING Fury instead of backing straight up and eating jabs like he was this last fight
Gotta throw the Ignorance out the window all that "I Don't Run During Training Camp" "I Don't Do Road Work" "Boxing Skills Are Overrated" WTF? his mentality is all F#CKED UP and once again confirming that Breland and Deas kinda enable him and let him do what he wants. Nobody have the BALLS to step up and say, "that is wrong we need to fix that"
It is a Interview with Radio Rahim in which the man is talking about how "Boxing Skills Are Overrated" it is Cringe. I think it has been taken down and complete Swept off the Internet because I can't find it anymore but his mentality in that Interview was all Bad. He will never Out-Box Fury but he can catch him and hurt him like he did in the 1st Fight but he has to figure out how to be more unpredictable. Also too more punches than just the Jab, Straight Right and Left Hook
New Team, New Gym, New Training Location!
You think he has to try to do something similar to what Joshua did against Ruiz in their second fight? He’s always just relied on his power which is unfortunately not good against a guy like Fury. Not sure how much he can improve foot work & speed at this point. Maybe Fury is just all wrong for Wilder no matter what outside of landing that KO punch.
You hit the nail on the head with what I just bolded.
Fury is indeed all wrong for Wilder, however I believe that Deontay would have a better chance of landing that KO punch if he comes in lighter.
Bulking up didn't help because Wilder needs explosiveness and space to land the right hand. Trying to match Fury's size actually played right into Fury's hands.
As far as improving his footwork, Wilder doesn't need to become Muhammad Ali. He just has to be able to take a few steps back so he can launch that missile of a right hand before Fury can maul him.
The only thing he can do really is improve his footwork, body movement, head movement, try to stay off the ropes, and hope to catch Fury with some big bombs. It's a long shot but not impossible, he did manage to beat Ortiz twice and Ortiz is more skilled than Wilder, just like Fury is. So Wilder can beat boxers who are more skilled than him, he always has a puncher's chance.
2 things he can do...
1. let his fvvvkin hands go!!! if you gon get knocked out, get knocked out trying!
2. turn defensive and box fury, bait him to come in then throw the right.
This is literally the smartest thing I've read all day.
Like you said if he's gonna get knocked out it couldn't hurt to attempt to get a knockout himself. He was way too timid from the opening bell.
Also fighting an assertive fight kinda how he did with Stiverne 1 couldn't hurt.
Either way is better than standing and getting beat on.
Better punch selection, prepare to back up and turn Fury to avoid clinches. He's going to need to make Fury respect his left hook if he wants to catch him good with the right hand.
I honestly think the same tactics again. He isn't going to change as a fighter much. One punch can not only change a fight, but it can set the tempo from round 1. Fury is the favourite, but the first two rounds were competitive and if Wilder can land big before Fury, the fight may play out differently from that point on.
Fury rag dolled him, in part, because he got that huge hit which knocked Wilder down. If they fight again, it's odds on to go the same way - but there is that chance that it is Wilder who lands the monster hit first.
He has to drop down a few pounds and move more in the ring. Not getting hit in back of the head would help too. That shot changed everything quick. I'm not saying Fury needed that shot to win but ot took away any chance Wilder had of recovering and being able to land something big himself. I thought it busted his ear drum but I haven't read any reports stating so.
2 things he can do...
1. let his fvvvkin hands go!!! if you gon get knocked out, get knocked out trying!
2. turn defensive and box fury, bait him to come in then throw the right.
Imagine if Wilder trained to throw 80-100 punches a round (like he always should have been).
That's what is needed.
Hit him low and fight dirty just like Fury did.
I don't think that trying to bulk up to Fury's size is a good idea. If anything I think Wilder should come in at around 220 so he can move better and avoid those clinches.
You think he has to try to do something similar to what Joshua did against Ruiz in their second fight? He’s always just relied on his power which is unfortunately not good against a guy like Fury. Not sure how much he can improve foot work & speed at this point. Maybe Fury is just all wrong for Wilder no matter what outside of landing that KO punch.
what he needs to do is not to take a 3rd fight right away. he can not just rely on his power everytime. he needs to get his confidence back and add some dimensions to his style. that would not happen in a short time though so if he wants to fight fury again he has to wait a little longer, go back to his old ways of fighting bums just to get his confidence back and see what else he could do aside from relying on his power.
I was thinking maybe just doing the style of what Maidana did to Mayweather in their first fight of just brawling & throwing a lot of punches. But the issue is Fury is bigger than Wilder so I’m not sure how well that would work out. Wilder probably needs to come in heavier too since the weight difference was pretty substantial.
I don't think that trying to bulk up to Fury's size is a good idea. If anything I think Wilder should come in at around 220 so he can move better and avoid those clinches.
He needs to let his hands go and get lucky. Fury CAN be hit, but his movement throws people off so they stop throwing. Wilder needs to throw at least 1 full power shot every 30 seconds. Doesn't matter if you miss 9.
What do you think he needs to change the most in order to have a good chance at winning? Just looking for the KO clearly won’t work so he needs to do something a lot different.
Make it a "speed" fight instead of a "size" fight. Here is what I mean:
1. I believe that he needs to find a happy medium between the 212 lbs he weighed in the first fight and the 231 he weighed in the rematch. I think 220 or so sounds about right
2. My emphasis for Wilder would be on hand and foot speed. Fury wins going away if it's a grappling, mauling type of fight so Deontay needs to be lighter and faster so he can create the space he needs in order to generate power.
3. I actually liked how Wilder threw to the body in the first two rounds. I would do more of that if I were him because he has to do something to keep Fury at least somewhat honest.
4. Avoid clinching and wrestling like the plague. Shawn Porter did a good job of spinning out and attacking against Errol Spence Jr. and I would watch footage of that fight as an example.
All of this is way easier said than done of course but that's what I think Wilder has to do.
Develop the footwork and combination punching of Ali. Option B is landing a lucky punch.
... that was and will be his only chance -- and it will bring him in the ring vs Fury... :)
What do you think he needs to change the most in order to have a good chance at winning? Just looking for the KO clearly won’t work so he needs to do something a lot different.
2 things he can do...
1. let his fvvvkin hands go!!! if you gon get knocked out, get knocked out trying!
2. turn defensive and box fury, bait him to come in then throw the right.