How can Joshua beat Fury

Good thread. Interesting replies. As has already been said by most, I don't really see how AJ can beat Fury. On the inside is AJ's best bet, but Fury's size and skills will be too much for AJ to handle... If I was on AJ's team, I'd recommend they stall as long as possible, whilst publicly saying they want the fight, and try to frustrate Fury mentally. Long drawn-out negotiations, stupid demands, etc. If Fury is on his A-game, AJ has got no chance That said, with all the time that Fury had out of the ring, one area where AJ does have an advantage is his physical health. AJ has looked after himself, Fury has not. Fury is probably weak to the body. If AJ can get into a war-like frame of mind, step to Fury and get off some bombs to the belly, that would be a good start to the fight for him. Someone above said jabs to the body.. I can't see this working, AJ's jab is not loose enough... he needs to get close and land some vicious hooks to the body, even if it means taking some damage himself

Personally i cant aee a scenario where AJ wins unless it's by lucky punch. Reasons. Fury refuses to fight in England as AJ would be the huge favorite and Fury himself says the fans disrespect him. Also, a fight in England they would never allow Fury to tie up with him. AJ after being KOed by Ruiz imo is afraid to exchange because he knows how it feels to be on the receiving end of one of those shots. Fury has shown the versatility to fight off the front from and on the back foot. Fury is both taller and longer than AJ Fury has a bigger Ring IQ than AJ as I see Fury as a real fighter with instinct and AJ as a student. AJ started boxing late and imo doesnt have the skill to adapt on the fly. Hes only good at repeating what he has drilled. The long punching is absolutely not going to work because Fury and can simply outbox him. If I'm AJ this is my game plan Come in heaver than against Ruiz. Maybe 235lbs or so. You have to be strong enough to push Fury off of you yet not muscle bound enough to move around the ring. Make it a slow fight. Do not push the pace. Go to the body. You dont need the KO to win. Land body shots to hopefully take Furys legs away. If he comes in heavy that could be in your favor over the long run. That's about it. If Fury does gas then take your shots but until then do not. Fury is awkward and it's his rhythm that busts people up. Some people say against Wilder it was the leaning but that's only half the story. Wilder came in big and Fury coming forward forced him to move. When he moved he was wasting energy especially because that's not his game. Then the feints forced him to react. Not his game. The mental aspect wore on him mentally and that sapped his physical strength. Dont beleive me? Strain your mind then try to perform a physical task at your peak. That's AJs best shot.

Look to stick to him. Aim the jab at the pit of his stomach. Look to land hooks to the stomach. He's not an unbeatable monster. The first step should be crippling his movement. The second step should be fighting him.

He's really not mate. I'm not sure what fights you're watching tbh. wilder was always over rated ....very poor boxer just w@tch him ffs , yeah I did fancy wilder landing his bomb on fury but credit where credit is due....fury boxed a brilliant fight , used his weight and mauled him up close , we’ve just seen Martin knock out Washington who was out boxing wilder and we saw Martin get despatched with ease by AJ. Because fury has never been beaten he should be higher than AJ who gave up that right when losing to Ruiz. We can argue all we want about this but the only way to fix this is for them to make the fight. fury knows Joshua is a completely different animal than wilder and I just hope he says no to the 3rd fight with wilder and gos for the mega fight with AJ. You stuck by fury and I admire you for that and I’ll stick by Joshua when these 2 face off

He's really not mate. I'm not sure what fights you're watching tbh. Not arguing anymore. Just go watch fights of them. If Wilder was that athletic and not just powerful he’d be able to move his head, change levels and all around just be more kinethetically intelligent and not look like a lumbering fool. He’s not. You wouldn’t say foreman is more athletic than Ali just because he had more power right? You wouldn’t say Julian Jackson is more athletic than Mayweather just because he was a powerhouse. Wilder is a stiff. Just watch Joshua vs Klitschko and Wilder wishes he has the co-ordination to do half of that, if he did he wouldn’t have gotten walked over by Fury, but kinesthetically he’s not intelligent or co-ordinated enough. Without those fast-twitch muscles and length, Wilder would look be about as athletic as Carlos Baldomir.

Wilder is much more stiff than Joshua. Not even talking about the Ruiz II fight, since I haven’t seen much of it. Go watch Joshua Klitschko or something, he’s much more agile and athletic than Wilder. He's really not mate. I'm not sure what fights you're watching tbh.

I completely disagree. Other than the Ruiz rematch, Joshua has always looked like a big stiff idiot in the ring. I don't count that fight because AJ was basically fighting a blob with a pair of boxing gloves on. He boxed a bit against Parker, but Jo turned up for a payday and Hearn's crooked ref wouldn't let him work inside. Wilder on the other hand is incredibly athletic. With his limited skillset he's relied on it to land his massive bombs. Wilder is much more stiff than Joshua. Not even talking about the Ruiz II fight, since I haven’t seen much of it. Go watch Joshua Klitschko or something, he’s much more agile and athletic than Wilder. Athleticism isn’t just power, it’s also co-ordination and kinesthetic intelligence

Joshua already beat him up in sparring.....fury knows at well. Wilder Let’s be fair is weak and no legs and cannot put a combination together. People are getting carried away with fury’s win against wilder , wilder has no skill, no balance, no left hand and has only one way of winning. Joshua will weigh 248 and will more than hold his own with fury. People think fury will win and people think Joshua will win and the only way to decide this is for them to fight and if fury wants to make the highest purse of his career he has to take this unification and we will see who wins....fury mauled a weak legged one trick pony he won’t be able to do that with joshua. I would love to see fury go toe to toe with Joshua because he would be knocked out...fury’s best way of winning is with movement and feints not by slugging it out. Just watch how bad of a fighter wilder is , he is very poor

Joshua’s much more athletic than Wilder. I completely disagree. Other than the Ruiz rematch, Joshua has always looked like a big stiff idiot in the ring. I don't count that fight because AJ was basically fighting a blob with a pair of boxing gloves on. He boxed a bit against Parker, but Jo turned up for a payday and Hearn's crooked ref wouldn't let him work inside. Wilder on the other hand is incredibly athletic. With his limited skillset he's relied on it to land his massive bombs.

further cementing his legacy as the greatest HW of all time. :pat: Of his era. Era.

I think Fury will go at it on the front foot again and knock Joshua out, further cementing his legacy as the greatest HW of all time.

I got fury beating aj

We don't even know much Joshua has left and what damage the Ruiz defeat did to him. Let's face it, he danced round Ruiz like a fairy in the the rematch and on the rare occasions Ruiz closed the distance, AJ shat himself and wouldn't engage. What's he gonna do when a 6ft9 270 pound Fury is next to him and threatening to do him serious harm? I think that Fury would mentally destroy him before the fight even started, Yea, I don't think Joshua fully has his confidence back. His eyes were HUGE the entire night against Ruiz. Nervous energy and overly cautious. I think Fury zaps what's left of Joshua's confidence within the first 3 rounds. After that, Joshua will look like a dear in headlights until he gets knocked out.

Joshua's best hope of winning is Fury's mindset. Fury always sees himself as the underdog, and he was against Wlad and Wilder. Against AJ he'll be going in as the firm favourite, could that work against him?

Joshua’s much more athletic than Wilder. He’s fast, has power, and can actually box smart. Maybe besides a moment from Povetkin Joshua has had his way with boxing everyone until he gets them ready to go. But that issue of his might also be gone now since that Ruiz fight. That said his chin isn’t the best, but Fury wouldn’t stop him with one punch. I’m probably leaning to Fury at the moment due to his sheer size ontop of the skills, but it’d be competitive while it lasted.

Don't underestimate AJ Fury can fight you anyway he likes, does not make him unbeatable though. There is no question that Fury is fantastic. He also can fight every minute of every round. When he was in trouble because of his cut face, he was not primed for the KO, and could not get rid of his opponent, but he did win every round with his accurate punching. thing is, Fury can't do both, and he seems devoted to smashing these days. Considering this from AJ's perspective, AJ can probably hit harder than Fury. AJ also learned how a boxer is supposed to get in shape, when he fought Ruiz the second time. Enough of the body building. It might have caused wilder problems as well...Fury is an exception, he made it work... But Joshua wants to come in as light as he can. He wants to know he can go 15 rounds! Otherwise he could lose rounds that he takes off. As far as his strategy he has to keep his combos straight, and go towards Fury after he finishes... Fury has a tendency to loop his shots. This works great as a counter to a straight combination, especially with Fury's reach... To negate this, one has to go forward so they are inside the arc of the counter punch. AJ has to also use that jab, Hit Fury anywhere with it like he did Ruiz. When Fury comes in hard with his jab he is open for a left hook. When Fury puts his weight on you it tires people out. AJ needs to either sprawl out, or just relax and not waste energy pushing Fury off. AJ could win this by boxing very well and putting together some power shots. But I think Fury has most of the advantages.

We don't even know much Joshua has left and what damage the Ruiz defeat did to him. Let's face it, he danced round Ruiz like a fairy in the the rematch and on the rare occasions Ruiz closed the distance, AJ shat himself and wouldn't engage. What's he gonna do when a 6ft9 270 pound Fury is next to him and threatening to do him serious harm? I think that Fury would mentally destroy him before the fight even started, Shyt hits the fan when theres a big fat gypsy infront of you

Realistically? I dont know. Joshua has a better variety of punches than Wilder and hes probably harder to bully on the inside, but I expect Fury would play the Fury/Wilder 1 or Fury/Wlad game and just use his jab, feints and movement to win a wide UD, and I cant see much Joshua could offer to combat that.

I guess AJ would have to try and get as physical as possible very early. But really, Fury at his best is so good at controlling distance that it’s not really going to be easy to do. And even if AJ does that, his stamina has never been the best, nevermind getting physical with a bigger man. It’s one thing jogging around the ring for 12 rounds at your own pace v Ruiz, that doesn’t drain you. I don’t think power plays a huge part in the fight, in the sense i think both have enough power to hurt each other. AJ might punch harder, but Fury has enough power to hurt AJ, so it’s not really a big deal either way. My feeling has always been if AJ cannot impose himself within a round or two against Fury, then Fury will wipe the floor with him. And i don’t see AJ really being able to do that. Fury’s ring IQ is too high too let it really happen. Also, after seeing AJ spit his gumshield out and accept defeat, i’m not sure he’s prepared to go the depths Fury is in the ring. Ultimately, AJ is way too predictable to beat Fury. Fury will see everything AJ is doing. Too flat footed and orthodox. “Straight up and down, no special effects”. It’s not even like AJ can outbox Fury from the outside and run around like he did v the midget Ruiz.

AJ doesn't need to put on weight for Fury to in fight with him. AJ is plenty strong enough as he is. Extra weight and more muscle would only slow him down. I can't think of a way AJ can fight that makes me favor him over Fury. Fury just seems to all around good for AJ going by Fury's last fight. AJ is a good puncher with both hands and has some fast combinations. I think he should use his fast hard combinations to try to KO Fury at mid range but I still favor Fury because of his great defense, better chin, smarter and showing a new attacking style that really works.