I have been one of Furys biggest critics, but i just cant see anyone beating this new kronk terminator style At 273lbs.
The size difference was incredible. i thought fury was always overstating his height, but the size gap looked more than 2 inches, Fury was ****ing HUGE. nearly every time fury landed, Wilder looked buzzed.
I have always been critical of Fury, i thought he had zero punching power, & have now backed Wlad and Wilder x2 to not only beat him but knock him out.
I thought he was a one trick pony, one dimensional in every sense, but like great champions, he has switched it up when you least expect it and found another way to win.
He is not only the no.1 heavyweight in the world but he is so far ahead it looks like it will be several years until we get to see a new champ.
'Fluffy Fury' is suddenly a power punching monster! :eek:
Fury's not like other fighters. He has a mental condition that can only be kept in check if he's training.
That's beyond an addiction; it's survival. He's training all the time because his life depends on it. Thousands of hours in the gym with no days off... a huge experience advantage over other fighters. How do you beat someone like that? You don't. Father Time is the one who'll defeat him. If he continues fighting and ages similarly to Wladimir, he's got about another 6 years before he tastes defeat.
- - Keeps on fighting the Whytes and Chisoras after Deyonce and Blubber picked each other's low hanging fruit trilogy for peanuts.
I reckon he could whoop ever 6 year in the world lined up for him without taking a single rest time if he does enough drugs.
Yessir, he a Sissy's kind of man alright.
Fury's not like other fighters. He has a mental condition that can only be kept in check if he's training.
That's beyond an addiction; it's survival. He's training all the time because his life depends on it. Thousands of hours in the gym with no days off... a huge experience advantage over other fighters. How do you beat someone like that? You don't. Father Time is the one who'll defeat him. If he continues fighting and ages similarly to Wladimir, he's got about another 6 years before he tastes defeat.
Legendary stuff wouldn’t include boxing, I defeated a much more dangerous opponent and that’s death . You can’t beat death I did more then once if you come into my world you die ,you can’t hang with me kid get lost .
sugar ray robinson is that you ?
Wilder aint ko vlad, parker or Whyte and vetkin...... i know its a hard pill to swallow, but its true Wilder is overrated and a cherry pick.
Fury proved nothing Saturday, all he proved is that after enough Fat Camps he can make a "comeback". End of the day Whyte would spark him, AJ would retire him and he would go life or death with parker.
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YDKSAB son. Fury is a level above all those names.
Interesting points youve made.
Ultimately though what impressed me about Fury was the way he battered Wilder in the rematch.I never thought he would dominate him the way he did.
I still felt that the Fury/Wilder rematch was bigger than either Joshua/Wilder or Fury/Joshua .
I still feel if Tyson Fury is on it he will beat Joshua but its a case of whether he can maintain the mental discipline to keep the levels up.His brother Shane Fury said something interesting which concurs with this .To many yes men in Furys camp makes him complacent.He constantly needs to be challenged or he will slip.Fury is his own worst enemy.
Now the landscape has changed Fury/Joshua will be the ultimate heavyweight fight.
Well I did state on here numerous times that 'Tyson Fury will fight Deontay Wilder, just like he fought Steve USS Cunningham but? Even still I was neutral on the fight. Soon as Fury weighed in, I knew this man was not going to be 'Dancing & stinging' he was going all in, showing his full hand.
I have been stating for a long time that Fury was a one trick pony at elite level, and I wanted to see 'THAT type of game-plan used on his opponents which he displayed against Wilder'
Tactically that was the way to beat Wilder 'Make him punch while moving backwards or smother his work' Wilder hits hard, but his offense does not have multi-dimensions. It has not evolved to that sort of level etc
Tyson Fury was quite simply the first fighter Brave enough to roll the dice, and go straight at Wilder 'And that is where his self belief helped him'. I don't think there is any other fighter ACTIVE right now who would of fought Wilder in that manner 'They all would of attempted to box him'
Tyson Fury has just displayed to all heavyweights in the world, the antidote on how to beat Deontay Wilder 'Wilder wants you to box him, give him space HE highly dislikes what Fury did to him' But even still a lot of heavyweights may not have the mental fortitude to fight Wilder in that way 'It is still highly dangerous'
The difference with solving how to beat Tyson Fury compared to Wilder is that? It is clearly more complex 'From a intellectual standpoint, physiological and maybe even spiritual' But as we speak right now 'Anthony Joshua is working on it'
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So much wrong with this post it's difficult to know where to start.
First of all, Wilder would put any of AJ's opponents to sleep, and Wilder just lost to the best HW of his generation. Joshua got dominated and stopped by a clinically obese cherry pick.
Wilder aint ko vlad, parker or Whyte and vetkin...... i know its a hard pill to swallow, but its true Wilder is overrated and a cherry pick.
Fury proved nothing Saturday, all he proved is that after enough Fat Camps he can make a "comeback". End of the day Whyte would spark him, AJ would retire him and he would go life or death with parker.
IDK.... Wilder was a cherrypick for Fury is the way i see it. Fury went life or death with Otto, sure AJ will be the under dog in a Fury bout, but AJ is no Wilder or Otto.
Lets see him in there with some of the people AJ have fought since Fury been back (Ruiz, Povetkin, Parker, Whyte), people that can box and change it up in the middle of the fight unlike Wilder.
Wilder is easy to beat imo, for Fury at least and Wilder was extremely over rated as a boxer. Jury still out on Fury, he has not fought a Klitschko level opponent since he has returned, AJ been fighting close to that level since he became champ....... speaks volumes.
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So much wrong with this post it's difficult to know where to start.
First of all, Wilder would put any of AJ's opponents to sleep, and Wilder just lost to the best HW of his generation. Joshua got dominated and stopped by a clinically obese cherry pick.
I am unsure on who would win but? Tyson Fury should be ranked number 1 right now 'The thing with Joshua is, he will be obsessing over Tyson Fury now' Joshua is not as naturally gifted as Fury in terms of fighting ability, but his mindset is unparalleled.
'Tyson Fury wanted a pat on the back for cutting out diet coke and making afew sacrifices, this is just normal standard behavior for Anthony Joshua or any Olympic athlete etc'
Joshua's humility IS what could set him apart from Tyson Fury and his ability to sacrifice over a long period of time 'If there is a solution somewhere out there in the universe which solves the conundrum on how to beat Tyson Fury 'Anthony Joshua would be the fighter to find it' he appears to be like Batman.
The match up between them has already started, Joshua is preparing right now 'Possibly in ways that may break the psyche any other heavyweight'
If Joshua never had the mindset that he has? I would 100% state right now 'That Tyson Fury beats him' but when you are competing against a athlete who has so much attention to detail and force of will to prepare? That changes everything.
I am a neutral on the match up.Interesting points youve made.
Ultimately though what impressed me about Fury was the way he battered Wilder in the rematch.I never thought he would dominate him the way he did.
I still felt that the Fury/Wilder rematch was bigger than either Joshua/Wilder or Fury/Joshua .
I still feel if Tyson Fury is on it he will beat Joshua but its a case of whether he can maintain the mental discipline to keep the levels up.His brother Shane Fury said something interesting which concurs with this .To many yes men in Furys camp makes him complacent.He constantly needs to be challenged or he will slip.Fury is his own worst enemy.
Now the landscape has changed Fury/Joshua will be the ultimate heavyweight fight.
IDK.... Wilder was a cherrypick for Fury is the way i see it. Fury went life or death with Otto, sure AJ will be the under dog in a Fury bout, but AJ is no Wilder or Otto.
Lets see him in there with some of the people AJ have fought since Fury been back (Ruiz, Povetkin, Parker, Whyte), people that can box and change it up in the middle of the fight unlike Wilder.
Wilder is easy to beat imo, for Fury at least and Wilder was extremely over rated as a boxer. Jury still out on Fury, he has not fought a Klitschko level opponent since he has returned, AJ been fighting close to that level since he became champ....... speaks volumes.
Nice to see Furys new commitment to boxing changing views.
I was talking to another person who had played professional football yesterday.I think he summed it up when he said Fury would beat Joshua as he has more heart.Tend to agree.
I am unsure on who would win but? Tyson Fury should be ranked number 1 right now 'The thing with Joshua is, he will be obsessing over Tyson Fury now' Joshua is not as naturally gifted as Fury in terms of fighting ability, but his mindset is unparalleled.
'Tyson Fury wanted a pat on the back for cutting out diet coke and making afew sacrifices, this is just normal standard behavior for Anthony Joshua or any Olympic athlete etc'
Joshua's humility IS what could set him apart from Tyson Fury and his ability to sacrifice over a long period of time 'If there is a solution somewhere out there in the universe which solves the conundrum on how to beat Tyson Fury 'Anthony Joshua would be the fighter to find it' he appears to be like Batman.
The match up between them has already started, Joshua is preparing right now 'Possibly in ways that may break the psyche any other heavyweight'
If Joshua never had the mindset that he has? I would 100% state right now 'That Tyson Fury beats him' but when you are competing against a athlete who has so much attention to detail and force of will to prepare? That changes everything.
I am a neutral on the match up.
Fury dominated Wallin 10-2 in rounds regardless the huge cut. he wasn`t bad at all.Had he had Sugar Hill Steward in his camp I doubt he would have suffered that cut.Fury by all accounts came in to light for that fight possibly on Ben Davisons advice eg
"I analyse the opponents and try to take their strengths away"
Furys dad for one thought it was the worst he had seen Fury fight and wanted Ben gone after the Wallin fight.
im not even a fury fan but how can you say that? he got up both times right? so how is his chin suspicious? if anything, it will tell you that he can take a punch. getting dropped doesnt always mean it's a bad thing, as long as you get it from it and win the fight after.
Both guys caught him with big looping right hands, both times Fury's feet were in a bad position & too square. Neither man had him particularly hurt.
Fury fixed that flaw in his game a long time ago. Completely irrelevant nowadays.
Wasn't he the same dude who claimed to have inside info that Fury was overtrained and looking like s*** in camp? :lol1:
lol i forgot about that.
Hes the guy that claimed Ohara would easily knock out that bum Josh Taylor, then he moved onto another matchroom bum in Connor Benn, claiming he would be a superstar, before getting battered by a french binman.
Now hes claiming big stiff idiot Joe Joyce is the next big thing, and once Dubois flattens him he'll move onto somebody else :lol1:
Legendary stuff
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I am a big Fury`s fan, his chin is suspicious, he was dropped by Cunningham an Pajkic. I predicted a win by stoppage for him against Wilder in a rematch.
The question is, who of current hw-s is skilled and strong enough to beat Fury down. because Fury is now much better fighter than in Cunningham and Pajkic fights.
im not even a fury fan but how can you say that? he got up both times right? so how is his chin suspicious? if anything, it will tell you that he can take a punch. getting dropped doesnt always mean it's a bad thing, as long as you get it from it and win the fight after.
Why because i thought he was overrated and he proved me/everyone else wrong in the ring?
every single person you hype or try to say is a star sucks, so your opinion is invalid.
Wasn't he the same dude who claimed to have inside info that Fury was overtrained and looking like s*** in camp? :lol1:
TS changes his mind on fighters on a round by round basis
Why because i thought he was overrated and he proved me/everyone else wrong in the ring?
every single person you hype or try to say is a star sucks, so your opinion is invalid.