He maintained this idea of planting his feet in the middle of the ring for 5-6 weeks and has revealed with Gareth Davies that he is now going to be boxing on the back foot with feints / head movement etc.
I don't suppose this is a surprise to many but i'm wondering if this is a case of "i wanted to do A, so I hired trainer X, it didn't work out so i'm resorting to plan B" Or if he was always going to box and he just wanted to sit down on his punches some more?
... You must be joking... vs a small cruiser?... here are the highlights:
Kinda forgot fury once had hair maybe it fell out around the time he was eating boar bollocks.
Teddy Atlas disagree's with the notion that, Fury was at his worse.
Atlas barely called Wilder a bum, said on national TV that Wilder lost by miles.
Now, all of a sudden, Fury isn't worth a cent.
It doesn't make sense.
He's getting caught by the hype of Wilder 2 last big KOs (Ortiz, Breazale).
After all, Breazale reached 8 rounds or something like that with Josh and Wilder crushed him like an egg.
On the otherside, Fury fought 2 mediocre fights, Swartz, Wallin.
So Fury is the underdog again, just like in the first fight because Fury looked mediocre also against Pianetta.
If Fury is in better or worst shape, he and his trainers are the only one to know that.
Atlas, Roach, Garcia, I can't count how many times those trainers got it completely wrong.
I favor Wilder too, but counting out Fury, I will never do that mistake again. I did it versus Chisora (back then I thought Fury was an hype job), Klit and Wilder 1, this time I won't.
Let’s be serious here. Very few fighters in history could stand toe to toe and trade with Wilder without turning to rubble.
I’d go with McCall, Chuvalo, Vitali, Tua... that’s it.
Yeah, that's it, I'm pretty sure big Georges FOreman could not stand in front of Wilder.
After all, Foreman destroyed the simple likes of Frazier, Lyle, Norton while Wilder stopped the al mighties grandad Ortiz, Stiverne and Malik Scott right?
Wilder starting to be widely overrated as some sort of GOAT puncher.
He's the best puncher of this era, period.
Maybe fury could box for first 2 minutes of each round, get the round under belt, then in.last minute put some beef into shots. So if fury does go down and gets up he only has to survive last 20 seconds of round, rather than going down early in round and having to survive 2 mins 45 seconds of rest of round
A fight is a fight, you win on points or via a KO. If Fury wins more rounds than Wilder, he deserves to win the fight regardless of circumstances.
I see no reason why a fitter and healthier Fury won't win again, this time far more clearly. Wilder fought the worst possible version of Fury and still lost.
Teddy Atlas disagree's with the notion that, Fury was at his worse.
He may have out boxed him, which many boxers at heavyweight can probably also do 'But Tyson Fury's goal should be to beat him up/demoralize him etc' THIS is not the Olympics, this is not a amateur Olympic fight.
If Tyson Fury jabs, closes the distance then rough houses him, gets afew shots off over and over again 'Maybe just maybe he can break Wilder'.
I honestly do not think Fury is good enough to avoid being hit for 12 rounds straight, Tyson Fury's offense is kind of slightly overrated 'He gets hit all of the time, and always has done'.
A fight is a fight, you win on points or via a KO. If Fury wins more rounds than Wilder, he deserves to win the fight regardless of circumstances.
I see no reason why a fitter and healthier Fury won't win again, this time far more clearly. Wilder fought the worst possible version of Fury and still lost.
I'm not sure what your point is bro. Fury completely outboxed Wilder on the outside, so why would he suddenly change tactic?
The first KD was a glancing blow that didn't hurt Tyson, and the second was in the 12th so tactics wasn't really an issue at that point.
He may have out boxed him, which many boxers at heavyweight can probably also do 'But Tyson Fury's goal should be to beat him up/demoralize him etc' THIS is not the Olympics, this is not a amateur Olympic fight.
If Tyson Fury jabs, closes the distance then rough houses him, gets afew shots off over and over again 'Maybe just maybe he can break Wilder'.
I honestly do not think Fury is good enough to avoid being hit for 12 rounds straight, Tyson Fury's offense is kind of slightly overrated 'He gets hit all of the time, and always has done'.
... You must be joking... vs a small cruiser?... here are the highlights:
Tyson Fury can fight on the inside, he has just not done it at elite level 'I have described Tyson Fury as a one trick pony at elite level, in this rematch? I think he is going to attempt to mixed things up much more' Wilder has not evolved his offense to the point where he is dangerous with all of his punches, he is about 50% less dangerous on the inside.
Deontay Wilder punches hard, but his offense is not evolved to the level of Mike Tyson's 'If you smother his punches, you are reducing his power generation significantly etc'
Mike Tyson had the ability to generate power within a space of afew inches, highly evolved offense.
... He didn't have to fight from the "inside" vs Wlad (who didn't load anything)... But Wilder did floor him twice (the second time being like some 1 second short from KO)... Anyway: between the first KD and the second, Fury wasn't able to fight Wilder from the "inside", right?...
I'm not sure what your point is bro. Fury completely outboxed Wilder on the outside, so why would he suddenly change tactic?
The first KD was a glancing blow that didn't hurt Tyson, and the second was in the 12th so tactics wasn't really an issue at that point.
Yeah I feel there are a lot of misconceptions around this whole fight... Neither fighter can massively change at this stage of their career, and neither really need or want to. That said, I think Fury is hoping to sit down on his shots just a little bit more and probably aim to walk Wilder onto something, Fury finds it easy to make 'em miss but he just doesn't tend to properly make 'em pay!
As others have said re Wilder, he doesn't trade or stand in the pocket. His understanding of range and ability to execute on the button is outrageous, really exceptional. His orthodox boxing skills aren't though. So he isn't looking to swing in the pocket, he wants people to creep into his range and get lazy and then BOOM! Lights out baby.
My prediction here, if Fury puts it all together the way he's shown he can at times, is that we are going to see a Calzaghe-Lacy style boxing lesson and absolute dismantling of a one-weapon powerhouse. If the stoppage comes it'll be from mental exhaustion and beffudlement.
He didn't fight short against Wlad/Wilder because he didn't have to, he was comfortable outboxing both of them long.
Fury can fight on the inside if he has to, or chooses to.
... He didn't have to fight from the "inside" vs Wlad (who didn't load anything)... But Wilder did floor him twice (the second time being like some 1 second short from KO)... Anyway: between the first KD and the second, Fury wasn't able to fight Wilder from the "inside", right?...
Fury didn't fight "short" the big bad guys (Wlad, Wilder)... (Just who Wallin is?)...
He didn't fight short against Wlad/Wilder because he didn't have to, he was comfortable outboxing both of them long.
Fury can fight on the inside if he has to, or chooses to.
Fury can fight long or short, he's a master boxer.
He fought Wallin on the inside after he got cut.
You can argue that Wallin isn't world class, but i disagree, i think he's pretty good HW.
Fury didn't fight "short" the big bad guys (Wlad, Wilder)... (Just who Wallin is?)...
Could just be mind games. Wilder doesn’t trade hands with his opponents. If he’s smart and stays inside it could help neutralize Wilder length advantage.
Wilder is very patient and knows what shot he’s looking for. The more you can give him a new look (as long as you don’t get caught) can be a good strategy.
... Fury never was a "smotherer" or an "inside fighter"... he can only hold... Fury never mastered the effective transition from outside to inside... He's no Andre Ward, tbh...
He fought that way up against Steve USS Cunningham, that is the only fighter in and around elite level where he applied those tactics.
... You must be joking... vs a small cruiser?... here are the highlights:
He fought that way up against Steve USS Cunningham, that is the only fighter in and around elite level where he applied those tactics.
He fought Wallin on the inside after he got cut.
You can argue that Wallin isn't world class, but i disagree, i think he's pretty good HW.
... Fury never was a "smotherer" or an "inside fighter"... he can only hold... Fury never mastered the effective transition from outside to inside... He's no Andre Ward, tbh... :)
He fought that way up against Steve USS Cunningham, that is the only fighter in and around elite level where he applied those tactics.
Wilder's power is all from a distance, SOMEBODY needs to take him on the inside 'Because he his punches do not generate the same kind of power when smothered, he has not evolved into that type of offensive fighter'.
... Fury never was a "smotherer" or an "inside fighter"... he can only hold... Fury never mastered the effective transition from outside to inside... He's no Andre Ward, tbh... :)