You did not argue when the exact same ranking orgs ranked Ruiz #1 after beating Joshua..THE SAME DAMN PLACES now have Fury and Wilder ranked where they are..So you either disagree with both or agree with both..can't slam them on one instance then p[raise them on the other because it fits your agenda..
Wilder could feasibly be #5 after that tbh.
Fury beat him twice, AJ holds most of the major belts, Ruiz is 1-1 with AJ, Whyte has strung together a bunch of wins against solid opposition.
You did not argue when the exact same ranking orgs ranked Ruiz #1 after beating Joshua..THE SAME DAMN PLACES now have Fury and Wilder ranked where they are..So you either disagree with both or agree with both..can't slam them on one instance then p
Why are they made?
None of them belts mean jack shlt. Fury beat the man who beat all the men. And beat a good fresh version of him.
Beating Fury makes you the top dog in the division. Period! Its funny the Lineal champion doesn't mean anything to belt holders. But it does when they become the Lineal Champ.
then he popped for a PED test for testosterone, a cocaine test and retired.
by your logic lennox lewis could come out of retirement and become the lineal champion of the world.
the "lineal" championship is only relevant until a fighter retires, you can't expect it to continue after that. in fury's case, he also popped for a drug test and shouldn't have even been allowed to fight wladimir because he should have been suspended after christian hammer.
When did boxrec rankings become a thing? When a bunch of fanboys decided it was time to try and make it a thing. Ridiculous. I don’t recall any of the legends citing boxrec rankings when they spoke of their greatness. There aren’t even active fighters who do that.
only when you're talking about guys who you won't be ranking yourself, like the top 5 or 10 in a division. boxrec is amazing for "ranking" everyone registered over the entire globe. do you know who the 50th ranked HW in the world is? boxrec has a good idea who it is.
i didn’t t argue anything you said the transnational rankings are the only one that matter but that’s only because wilder is the number one spot none of you guys claimed that when aj dominated the spot for a long time ,unlike you i stick with those rankings and when wilder is not there i will remind you as well.
P.s the rankings that matter are the official ones if one is holding a belt , regardless after saturday do you think transnational will rank wilder over aj beltless ? I guess we’ll find out because they dropped aj to three after defeating andy who was number one in the only rankings that matter ? Ha
if he loses he deserves to drop, but hey may the best man win..unlike you i deal with reality..if wilder wins i will bump this post
Those aren’t sanctioned bodies ,you really have to be off to not know a unified champion is ranked 1 or just champion not needing a ranking in these sanctioned bodies having the belt titles WBO, IBF, WBA ? Ha
Joshua is just a title holder just like Wilder..But He also just got ko'd last year so that counts..Wilder is undefeated and so is Fury BUT!!! Fury also has claim to the lineal title since he beat JOSHUAS BEST WIN IN WLAD BEFORE JOSHUA DID!!!.. And lets not act like Joshua had to beat real champs to win his titles...He got the IBF from Charles martin who won a vacant title because his opponent was injured, He got the WBA in a fight with a 41 year old Wlad coming off of a lose and a layoff and still had to get off of the floor to win that..(fight ended with wlad on his feet, yes joshua fans cry about wilders ko's) then he got the WBO from Parker who again had a vacent tile and beat no one...those were all Fury's titles WHICH HE WON IN THE RING AGAINST THE REAL CHAMP!!! WTF HAS JOSHUA DONE BUT LOSE TO A FAT LATE REPLACEMENT??
You didn’t state any facts ? Ha
AJ is the number one in the actual rankings in multiple sanctioned bodies ,you made a pointless thread here .
You chose certain ranking systems outside official ones to coat your tummy ache and cry about a ranking we don’t really care about, If neither Wilder or Fury don’t fight AJ it’s called ducking the other champion.
like whom??? list them please...because it isnt ring,espn, or tbrb..AND THE WINNER OF THIS FIGHT WILL BE RING,LINEAL CHAMP!!!! HOW CAN YOU ARGUE AGAINST THAT?
The Transnational rankings had Ruiz at one after defeating AJ the rankings you used saying they are the only ones that mattered . You just proved my point here ,lost as always .
No you actually proved my point you accept their opinion then now their rankings have Wilder as #1...so how can you argue that?
Who’s unranked ? If you’re referring to Ruiz he defeated AJ he gets the rank,it’s not hard you are taking his rank and then the guy who defeats you back gets that rank he had, you really made another illogical thread here .
That’s what I was getting at ,a pretty unintelligent thread when the loser goes to 3 after Saturday . And I’m assuming it’s Wilder then you’ll get posters like this one who created the thread that 1 and 2 are are only opinions.
who ranked Ruiz #1??
That’s what I was getting at ,a pretty unintelligent thread when the loser goes to 3 after Saturday . And I’m assuming it’s Wilder then you’ll get posters like this one who created the thread that 1 and 2 are are only opinions.
Not at all, i am all for excepting facts unlike you guys..you win you win..you lose you lose..simple s that
After AJ's loss to Ruiz he shouldn't be number 1...he redeemed himself a bit, and is back in the conversation...you could make a case for him being number 1, but I think number 3 is probably about where he should be after that loss...it was pretty bad
I had AJ number 1 before Ruiz but he got KOed by a huge underdog who was ranked about tenth so I dropped him down and he did not fight well enough in the rematch to be number 1 again. I think Fury number 1, Wilder a very close number 2 and AJ number 3 is correct. If we have a clear winner of Fury vs Wilder we have a solid number 1 in my book. About all AJ can do to become number 1 again is to get a fight with the winner of Fury-Wilder 2 and beat him.
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