The things people forget about Douglas-Tyson.

No not the case at all. That only happens when u win 6 rings and ran out of competition to prove you’re the best. Douglas just knew what was at stake and stepped up real big time. It wasn’t a case of reaching the top of the mountain as he has plenty to prove after that... to defend the title and beat other champs for example Not in his mind... I remember seeing an interview between James Douglas and Mike Costello and he literally admits he lost that same motivation and hunger as he had already achieved his ambition, he also says all the BS politics from King following the fight also affected his mentality.

Which begs the question, should knockdowns be timed and not counted by the refs? There's a wide range of ten counts based on refs, fight etc. Maybe the ref counts based on a clock to eliminate the disparity? Just thinking out loud lol. Good question. It makes some sense tbf, you could time the count until the fighter gets to his feet and then referee decides whether he should continue or not. It would certainly help prevent contentious incidents like this. However, the referee is probably the only guy who can interact with the fighter. Without interaction how would the fighter know when to get up. You could have it shouted out via speaker or something but you’d get instances were crowd volume along with the effects of being punched in the head could/would drown it out. I think it’s a good idea, I just dunno how it could be implemented.

Here's the deal. I can count to 10 and take 20 seconds doing it or I can count to 10 and take 8 seconds doing it. I can count to 10 and take 10 seconds doing it. The count pace is supposed to be at the pace of actually seconds; hence, 10 count. The ref should come as close as possible, I'm sure they went to referee school to learn how to count to 10 in boxing seconds. Either way. Douglass was on the ground for 13-15 seconds which constitutes a knockout No it doesn’t... counts are not timed they are counted. The referee was consistent with both counts. Tyson got the same opportunity as Douglas. Don King literally made the same argument you’re making and appealed the result. It was rightfully rejected.

Which begs the question, should knockdowns be timed and not counted by the refs? There's a wide range of ten counts based on refs, fight etc. Maybe the ref counts based on a clock to eliminate the disparity? Just thinking out loud lol. Even at the end of a count the referee can look at the figher's eyes and tell if he can continue or not. We've all seen refs count to 10 look at a figher, and allow them to continue. The count is only to give the fighter a short grace period to recover and for the ref to determine if the figher is ok or not. The ref looked at Douglas and saw that he could continue. Tyson was falling over with his mouth piece hanging out of his mouth. Could not continue. The ref made the right call. Tyson lost. The WBA, WBO, and IBF never agree on anything but they all agreed that Tyson lost. Even Tyson knows he lost. Beterbiev#1 seems to be the only one in denial.

Yep. Pretty sure he got Chlamydia or some other STD while over there iirc. Hey good to see you back. Who do you have this Saturday, Wilder or Fury ?

Wasn't Tyson doing blow and banging Japanese chicks? Yep. Pretty sure he got Chlamydia or some other STD while over there iirc.

That’s essentially irrelevant though. Counts aren’t timed they’re COUNTED. He got up before the referee’s count and went on to win the fight fair and square. Which begs the question, should knockdowns be timed and not counted by the refs? There's a wide range of ten counts based on refs, fight etc. Maybe the ref counts based on a clock to eliminate the disparity? Just thinking out loud lol.

Wasn't Tyson doing blow and banging Japanese chicks?

I think it was a case of he reached the top of the mountain and never had the same hunger/motivation. No not the case at all. That only happens when u win 6 rings and ran out of competition to prove you’re the best. Douglas just knew what was at stake and stepped up real big time. It wasn’t a case of reaching the top of the mountain as he has plenty to prove after that... to defend the title and beat other champs for example

Here's the deal. I can count to 10 and take 20 seconds doing it or I can count to 10 and take 8 seconds doing it. I can count to 10 and take 10 seconds doing it. The count pace is supposed to be at the pace of actually seconds; hence, 10 count. The ref should come as close as possible, I'm sure they went to referee school to learn how to count to 10 in boxing seconds. Either way. Douglass was on the ground for 13-15 seconds which constitutes a knockout Dude. Douglas was not unconscious. He was watching the count and got up at 8 as his corner probably instructed him to do. Tyson was OUT. Don King lost a lot of future money with the Tyson lost so he protested about the "long count". All 3 organizations WBA, WBO, and IBF reviewed the footage and declared Buster Douglas the unified champ. Congrats for siding with a bogus Don King claim. Watch the fight. Even if there were no knockdowns Douglas wins this fight on the judges cards. Tyson was beat that night. He lost. GET OVER IT!

Oh yeah, and as far as your theory of Douglass being fine after he got up, that's also false. The bell rung as soon as he got up. Anyone that knows Tyson knows that Douglass wouldn't have lasted another 30 seconds. It's all water under the bridge. Douglas looked at the ref and gave the ok that he was ready to go. Tyson did not: https://i.imgur.com/7JR9Y2f.gif Once again, Douglas won fair and square. Even most Tyson fans will admit that Douglas was much more motivated and better prepared for the fight than Tyson was.

No he's not. If you know how to count, you would know he's right...

Just as long as you acknowledged Douglass was on the canvas longer than 10 seconds and could've easily been counted out, we're good. That’s essentially irrelevant though. Counts aren’t timed they’re COUNTED. He got up before the referee’s count and went on to win the fight fair and square.

Despite what you "say" video evidence proves that Douglass was on the ground for 13-15 seconds. Bottom line, Douglas was fine and could continue after the count. Tyson was not fine and could not continue after the count. Your boy lost. Get over it.

Douglass was also knocked out in that fight and should've been counted out I was waiting for a token Tyson apologist to show up. Douglas was fine after his knockdown. He smacked the ground in frustration then got up. His eyes were clear and the ref let the fight continue. Tyson on the other hand was knocked silly, wobbled, and couldn't get his mouth piece in by the time the ref hit the 10 count. As others have said, Douglas won fair and square. Stop with the excuses.

He's right though... No he's not.

Douglas had all the intangibles to get a huge upset and Tyson had just enough asterisks to lose. That night was meant to happen

So ironic they used a condom after what Tyson had been getting up to in Tokyo. Probably why they had one on hand :lol1:

His corner ended up using a condom with ice instead of an endswell IIRC. So ironic they used a condom after what Tyson had been getting up to in Tokyo.

Yeah people make out like Buster was some journeyman no hoper. He was a solid contender at world level. If you’re not fully prepared and an opponent that’s still operating somewhere around world level has their best night, then you will be in trouble.