Hearn says he turned down the Canelo fight.

I'll tell a consistent story. They should have accepted the offer.

It wasn't a $100 million fight back then. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but Wilder's side was convinced it was and put their money where their mouth was by coming up with the 50 million when Joshua tried to call their bluff.

Hearn knew $12.5 million wouldn't be accepted for a fight worth $100 million. It was both a career high and a lowball. That's almost 2 years ago. It wasn't a $100 million fight back then. Nowhere near. Joshua had never been near the States, Wilder hadn't done a PPV yet. $12.5 might have been too low for Wilder at the time, but it wouldn't have been too far off the mark.

I don't think you can call career high money a "lowball" offer, though. Lowballing is making an offer you know won't be accepted. Hearn knew $12.5 million wouldn't be accepted for a fight worth $100 million. It was both a career high and a lowball.

So we're in agreement that just because an offer is a career high payday, that doesn't mean you should automatically accept it? Of course. You have to know your worth. I don't think you can call career high money a "lowball" offer, though. Lowballing is making an offer you know won't be accepted. It doesn't sound like Canelo's offer is a lowball. Just maybe below the market. When it comes to Wilder, the offers haven't even been below market. But it's up to Deontay to decide whether they reflect his sense of his own worth. Mind you, when you sack the guy who brought an offer to the table, you don't really give a sense that the money is the deciding factor.

Believe it or not, there are people out here with fully functional brains whose memories go back further than the end of last week. Save your bullshit for the low IQ crew. yeah jump to useless insults, i bet if I was in front of you and asked you what IQ meant you would need google to answer, and to use the Intelligence Quotient as a basis of an insult tells me all I need to know about you, that flawed method was used to sterilize, murder, and treat people like animals along with the Bell Curve.... Ill leave the childish insults for you... I guess they prove your IQ is that much higher? Either way bruv, you were one slamming wilder and others for not taking pay days 3x what they usually made but now that its your countryman involved in the same behavior you do not have the same energy. have a good one

bro really? are yo going to sit here n just lie? Believe it or not, there are people out here with fully functional brains whose memories go back further than the end of last week. Save your bullshit for the low IQ crew.

No, I don't remember that. What I remember is Wilder pretending to accept a $15million offer from Hearn then losing his pen when Eddie sent him a contract. bro really? are yo going to sit here n just lie?

https://www.******.com/532936-hearn-offers-wilder-12-5-fight-joshua-take-leave/ On Monday night, Eddie Hearn, Joshua’s promoter, made an offer to Al Haymon, adviser to Wilder, for a fight at an unspecified site at a date yet to be determined. The only definitive piece of information in Hearn’s offer was the amount of money he is willing to offer Wilder: $12.5 million. And with the offer comes a caveat: Take it or leave it. “If they don’t want it, we’ll fight our mandatory,’’ Hearn told THE RING by telephone on Tuesday morning. he knows exactly what you are talking about he was one of the posters mocking wilder at that point these guys are really something else

How much credit will Canelo get if he fights and beats Smith? He beat Fielding whom everyone thinks was a sht fight, and Rocky beat Ryder and Ryder beat Smith. Less than he would have done before Smith fought Ryder for sure. Worth noting that the general consensus is that Ryder deserved the nod against Fielding however... pretty clearly in most eyes. EDIT: Ooops put the Ryder Smith fight up by accident. Bizarrely Ryder vs Fielding seems to have vanished from the internet, although below is a selection of fan scorecards: https://www.eyeonthering.com/boxing/rocky-fielding-vs-john-ryder

No, I don't remember that. https://www.******.com/532936-hearn-offers-wilder-12-5-fight-joshua-take-leave/ On Monday night, Eddie Hearn, Joshua’s promoter, made an offer to Al Haymon, adviser to Wilder, for a fight at an unspecified site at a date yet to be determined. The only definitive piece of information in Hearn’s offer was the amount of money he is willing to offer Wilder: $12.5 million. And with the offer comes a caveat: Take it or leave it. “If they don’t want it, we’ll fight our mandatory,’’ Hearn told THE RING by telephone on Tuesday morning.

When Hearn offered Wilder $12.5 million, all the UK fans on this site insisted Wilder was ducking if he didn't accept the offer since it was a career high payday. Do you not remember that? No, I don't remember that. What I remember is Wilder pretending to accept a $15million offer from Hearn then losing his pen when Eddie sent him a contract.

If they genuinely turn this fight down then you might have a discussion on your hands. At the moment they're negotiating. So we're in agreement that just because an offer is a career high payday, that doesn't mean you should automatically accept it?

what low ball offers has Hearn made to Wilder and Charlo? When Hearn offered Wilder $12.5 million, all the UK fans on this site insisted Wilder was ducking if he didn't accept the offer since it was a career high payday. Do you not remember that?

Okay, so Hearn has confirmed that two of his fighters just turned down career high paydays against Canelo. You and I both agree that an offer can be a career high and still be a lowball. Yet when Hearn makes career high offers to Wilder or Charlo, everyone insists career high offers must be accepted. So why the double standard? Why do UK fans cry duck when a US fighter turns down a lowball "career high" but none of them are crying duck now that Smith and Saunders both rejected Canelo this week? If they genuinely turn this fight down then you might have a discussion on your hands. At the moment they're negotiating. Give it a week or two. I wonder if Smith will sack Eddie for getting him an offer?

no uproar as usual and don't expect one.

Just found the Boxing News 24 article. Sounds like BS to be honest saying Hearn didn't advise Smith of the offer, and certainly doesn't include any Hearn quotes... ie it's the opposite of the OP's thread title. - -BS 24. Eddie needs to build Smith more, but with who? Canelo - Eubank more probable.

I hope it happens, can't wait to see Smith get starched after not giving Ryder the rematch. Canelo's gonna rip that huge body.

Callum should be sucking Canelo off for even considering him as opponent. 3 or 4 times his career-high purse is more than fair. He shouldn't get a cent more than that.

Okay, so Hearn has confirmed that two of his fighters just turned down career high paydays against Canelo. You and I both agree that an offer can be a career high and still be a lowball. Yet when Hearn makes career high offers to Wilder or Charlo, everyone insists career high offers must be accepted. So why the double standard? Why do UK fans cry duck when a US fighter turns down a lowball "career high" but none of them are crying duck now that Smith and Saunders both rejected Canelo this week? Don't know what you're on about now ... what low ball offers has Hearn made to Wilder and Charlo?