Was Floyd a Cheater?

As Ive said all along you know 1/2 the story, as a psychology test try and revoke your own evidence with opposing evidence and see what you come up with, its very hard to do because you want to be right first and foremost and that is a mental block to digesting the truth. I know half the story? Lol. Whatever dude. I'm done say what you want. Try using some common sense.

Yeah ok bud whatever you say. Like I said you will believe what you want. John Locher/Associated PressFloyd Mayweather Reportedly Took Banned IV Prior to Manny Pacquiao Fight TYLER CONWAY SEPTEMBER 09, 2015 After all the*public and private allegations*about Manny Pacquiao's performance-enhancing drug use, it appears it was actually Floyd Mayweather Jr.*who may have been doping prior to their May bout. As highlighted in an expansive profile of boxing's PED issues,*Thomas Hauser*of SB Nation reported Mayweather received an illegal IV prior to the fight to help with dehydration.*The report states United States Anti-Doping Agency agents found evidence*of Mayweather using an IV on Friday, May 2, after weigh-ins, though the details behind the findings are still unclear. What is clear, however, is that Mayweather would be in violation*of World Anti-Doping Agency regulations, which do not allow for fighters to receive IV injections. 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That would mean it was neither in place nor applied for when Mayweather defeated Pacquiao via unanimous decision in one of the biggest bouts in boxing history. This report runs contrary to Mayweather's reputation as a clean fighter, and Hauser's piece details the cozy relationship between Mayweather Promotions and the USADA. Unlike public proclamations to the contrary, Mayweather doesn't seem subject to true 365-day testing. His camp and the USADA*allegedly come together before his fights and begin random testing programs at Mayweather's*discretion.* Mayweather denied the allegations against him in a statement on Sept. 10, via*BoxMadMagazine.com: As already confirmed by the USADA Statement, I did not commit any violations of the Nevada or USADA drug testing guidelines. I follow and have always followed the rules of Nevada and USADA, the gold standard of drug testing.* Let’s not forget that I was the one six years ago who insisted on elevating the level of drug testing for all my fights. As a result, there is more drug testing and awareness of its importance in the sport of boxing today than ever before.* *I am very proud to be a clean athlete and will continue to champion the cause. The USADA also denied the report in a*statement*on Thursday:* Although the articles in question contain a multitude of errors, all of which will be addressed at the appropriate time, we believe it is important to immediately correct the record regarding the false suggestion that Floyd Mayweather violated the rules by receiving an IV infusion of saline and vitamins. As was already publicly reported in May of this year by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), Mr.*Mayweather applied for and was granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2 fight against Manny Pacquiao. Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program. Although Mr. Mayweather’s application was not approved until after his fight with Mr. Pacquiao and all tests results were reported, Mr. Mayweather did disclose the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him. Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules. However, Hauser responded to the denials with his own rebuttal, defending his story, via*BoxingScene.com: No amount of self-serving rhetoric from USADA can change the following unrebutted facts: (1) The IV was administered at Floyd Mayweather’s home after the weigh-in on May 1. USADA learned about the IV on that date. (2) The 2015 WADA “Prohibited Substances and Methods List” states, “Intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 ml per 6 hour period are prohibited except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures, or clinical investigations.” (3) The above-referenced prohibition is in effect at all times that the athlete is subject to testing. It exists because, in addition to being administered for the purpose of adding specific substances to a person’s body, an IV infusion can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipient’s system or might be added to it in the near future. (4) Mayweather-Pacquiao was contested on May 2. (5) Mayweather applied for a therapeutic use exemption on May 19 (seventeen days after the fight). (6) USADA granted the therapeutic use exemption on May 20 (eighteen days after the fight). (7) USADA did not notify the Nevada State Athletic Commission about the IV until May 21 (nineteen days after the fight). Meanwhile, on May 2 (fight night), Manny Pacquiao’s request to be injected with Toradol (a legal substance) to ease the pain caused by a torn rotator cuff was denied by the Nevada State Athletic Commission because the request was not made in a timely manner. It would be helpful if Travis Tygart or his spokesperson answered the following questions directly: (1) What was the medical justification and supporting data that led to USADA granting the therapeutic use exemption for an otherwise prohibited IV procedure? (2) On how many occasions has the “A” sample of a professional boxer tested by USADA come back positive for a prohibited substance? (3) What was the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for each urine test administered to Floyd Mayweather by USADA for each of his fights beginning with Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley up to and including Mayweather vs. Andre Berto? (4) Does USADA still maintain that it handled the Erik Morales matter correctly? As Ive said all along you know 1/2 the story, as a psychology test try and revoke your own evidence with opposing evidence and see what you come up with, its very hard to do because you want to be right first and foremost and that is a mental block to digesting the truth.

He got it issued after because the officials seen all proceedings and it was legit, just as the analogy I put up about passing a test in front of officials and given documents later because of clerical issues. Listen open your eyes, I said how prevalent iIV Fluid use was, you understand WAS is past tense, do you understand they nearly ALL used IVs in making weight. Yeah ok bud whatever you say. Like I said you will believe what you want. John Locher/Associated PressFloyd Mayweather Reportedly Took Banned IV Prior to Manny Pacquiao Fight TYLER CONWAY SEPTEMBER 09, 2015 After all the*public and private allegations*about Manny Pacquiao's performance-enhancing drug use, it appears it was actually Floyd Mayweather Jr.*who may have been doping prior to their May bout. As highlighted in an expansive profile of boxing's PED issues,*Thomas Hauser*of SB Nation reported Mayweather received an illegal IV prior to the fight to help with dehydration.*The report states United States Anti-Doping Agency agents found evidence*of Mayweather using an IV on Friday, May 2, after weigh-ins, though the details behind the findings are still unclear. What is clear, however, is that Mayweather would be in violation*of World Anti-Doping Agency regulations, which do not allow for fighters to receive IV injections. Such injections could be used to mask other banned substances, such as performance-enhancing drugs. * ** window.dicnf = {};(function(){/* Copyright The Closure Library Authors. 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That would mean it was neither in place nor applied for when Mayweather defeated Pacquiao via unanimous decision in one of the biggest bouts in boxing history. This report runs contrary to Mayweather's reputation as a clean fighter, and Hauser's piece details the cozy relationship between Mayweather Promotions and the USADA. Unlike public proclamations to the contrary, Mayweather doesn't seem subject to true 365-day testing. His camp and the USADA*allegedly come together before his fights and begin random testing programs at Mayweather's*discretion.* Mayweather denied the allegations against him in a statement on Sept. 10, via*BoxMadMagazine.com: As already confirmed by the USADA Statement, I did not commit any violations of the Nevada or USADA drug testing guidelines. I follow and have always followed the rules of Nevada and USADA, the gold standard of drug testing.* Let’s not forget that I was the one six years ago who insisted on elevating the level of drug testing for all my fights. As a result, there is more drug testing and awareness of its importance in the sport of boxing today than ever before.* *I am very proud to be a clean athlete and will continue to champion the cause. The USADA also denied the report in a*statement*on Thursday:* Although the articles in question contain a multitude of errors, all of which will be addressed at the appropriate time, we believe it is important to immediately correct the record regarding the false suggestion that Floyd Mayweather violated the rules by receiving an IV infusion of saline and vitamins. As was already publicly reported in May of this year by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), Mr.*Mayweather applied for and was granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2 fight against Manny Pacquiao. Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today. Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program. Although Mr. Mayweather’s application was not approved until after his fight with Mr. Pacquiao and all tests results were reported, Mr. Mayweather did disclose the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him. Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules. However, Hauser responded to the denials with his own rebuttal, defending his story, via*BoxingScene.com: No amount of self-serving rhetoric from USADA can change the following unrebutted facts: (1) The IV was administered at Floyd Mayweather’s home after the weigh-in on May 1. USADA learned about the IV on that date. (2) The 2015 WADA “Prohibited Substances and Methods List” states, “Intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 ml per 6 hour period are prohibited except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures, or clinical investigations.” (3) The above-referenced prohibition is in effect at all times that the athlete is subject to testing. It exists because, in addition to being administered for the purpose of adding specific substances to a person’s body, an IV infusion can dilute or mask the presence of another substance that is already in the recipient’s system or might be added to it in the near future. (4) Mayweather-Pacquiao was contested on May 2. (5) Mayweather applied for a therapeutic use exemption on May 19 (seventeen days after the fight). (6) USADA granted the therapeutic use exemption on May 20 (eighteen days after the fight). (7) USADA did not notify the Nevada State Athletic Commission about the IV until May 21 (nineteen days after the fight). Meanwhile, on May 2 (fight night), Manny Pacquiao’s request to be injected with Toradol (a legal substance) to ease the pain caused by a torn rotator cuff was denied by the Nevada State Athletic Commission because the request was not made in a timely manner. It would be helpful if Travis Tygart or his spokesperson answered the following questions directly: (1) What was the medical justification and supporting data that led to USADA granting the therapeutic use exemption for an otherwise prohibited IV procedure? (2) On how many occasions has the “A” sample of a professional boxer tested by USADA come back positive for a prohibited substance? (3) What was the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for each urine test administered to Floyd Mayweather by USADA for each of his fights beginning with Mayweather vs. Shane Mosley up to and including Mayweather vs. Andre Berto? (4) Does USADA still maintain that it handled the Erik Morales matter correctly?

Yes that's why he got a TUE AFTER because he got caught. There was supposed to be NO IV use. Do you not understand that? No, UFC fights do not use IVs as USADA doesn't allow them. He got it issued after because the officials seen all proceedings and it was legit, just as the analogy I put up about passing a test in front of officials and given documents later because of clerical issues. Listen open your eyes, I said how prevalent iIV Fluid use was, you understand WAS is past tense, do you understand they nearly ALL used IVs in making weight.

Boss hell,,, he didnt wanna give 600k away. I dont care how much he has. Thats plain stupid if he did LOL he blows that on a night out for the boys. See the haters interpretation, I didnt say he wanted to give away 600k I said he could not be bothered with boiling it of and because he is boss he said to himself fck it just pay the price. Its not hard kid just engage some of your logical brain its over run with hate.

TUE is in place to use IV so its not NO IV so I see that you dont get it ! Tons of boxers and UFC guys used IV fluids making weight, it was nearly an automatic go too thing at top level, I posted articles on how prevalent it was. If you are aware how weight cutting works then the question is how deeply do you know how weight cutting works, do you know the fine print and ins and outs or the basics. it makes a world of difference in framing what you believe. Yes that's why he got a TUE AFTER because he got caught. There was supposed to be NO IV use. Do you not understand that? No, UFC fights do not use IVs as USADA doesn't allow them.

He didnt make weight and was fined 600k ... Thats what happen. Thats what I said . 2 yrs out, thinking he can make 144 and realised his body wasnt dropping the way it normally does, gets too a point he aint going to make 144 without boiling it off, being a boss he says fck it pay forfeit.

Lol ok dude, Rules, no IV means no IV get it? TONS of boxers and UFC fighters make weight without a IV. Im well aware of how weight cutting works thanks. TUE is in place to use IV so its not NO IV so I see that you dont get it ! Tons of boxers and UFC guys used IV fluids making weight, it was nearly an automatic go too thing at top level, I posted articles on how prevalent it was. If you are aware how weight cutting works then the question is how deeply do you know how weight cutting works, do you know the fine print and ins and outs or the basics. it makes a world of difference in framing what you believe.

You know so little about dehydration, its a case of a wee bit of belief writes a essay of supposed fact, there is body weight and there is fluid weight, an athlete at this level can easily lose weight faster than other times during the last hours in making weight, a guy can easily make a weight and still become dehydrated while being heavier than the weight he can easily make, that went over your head like a missile right . Facts are facts but you dont understand or even look at ALL the facts, you know 1/2 a story and base your opinion on 1/2 truths. Lol ok dude, Rules, no IV means no IV get it? TONS of boxers and UFC fighters make weight without a IV. Im well aware of how weight cutting works thanks. He shouldnt have been yappin about his diet if this was the case. Either way they said no IV use.

You ever wrestled in high school or college? Do you have any idea what you’re talking about? You have no clue what you’re talking about. You read half asse stories on online. You have no clue about dehydration . I was never given IV after making weight. So you are the test tube to base all knowledge about dehydration around how grandiose is that lol, no I havent wrestled I boxed, Ive raced Greyhounds for 20yrs that have a lot of dehydration issues because of the same reasons fighters do. You best go broaden your insight because its reaches far greater than high school wrestling.

You know so little about dehydration, its a case of a wee bit of belief writes a essay of supposed fact, there is body weight and there is fluid weight, an athlete at this level can easily lose weight faster than other times during the last hours in making weight, a guy can easily make a weight and still become dehydrated while being heavier than the weight he can easily make, that went over your head like a missile right . Facts are facts but you dont understand or even look at ALL the facts, you know 1/2 a story and base your opinion on 1/2 truths. You ever wrestled in high school or college? Do you have any idea what you’re talking about? You have no clue what you’re talking about. You read half asse stories on online. You have no clue about dehydration . I was never given IV after making weight.

Like he did with JMM? What happen there? I told what happened. 2 yrs out, thinking he can make 144 and realised his body wasnt dropping the way it normally does, gets too a point he aint going to make 144 without boiling it off, being a boss he says fck it pay forfeit. He weighed in at 146 a pound under WW, the same weight he was for his fights years earlier. You people have so much blind hate its like a cancer Id hate to be like you.

No, like saying you can drink soda and eat Mcds and make weight. But for some reason you need a IV? Whatever dude, you will see it as you see it. No doubt hes the best to ever do it IMO. But facts are still facts. You know so little about dehydration, its a case of a wee bit of belief writes a essay of supposed fact, there is body weight and there is fluid weight, an athlete at this level can easily lose weight faster than other times during the last hours in making weight, a guy can easily make a weight and still become dehydrated while being heavier than the weight he can easily make, that went over your head like a missile right . Facts are facts but you dont understand or even look at ALL the facts, you know 1/2 a story and base your opinion on 1/2 truths.

You mean like passing your driving licence test in front of officials and your certificate is held up for clerical reasons so its not a valid licence. Too many young hating brains in here. No, like saying you can drink soda and eat Mcds and make weight. But for some reason you need a IV? Whatever dude, you will see it as you see it. No doubt hes the best to ever do it IMO. But facts are still facts.

Yes, when you take a IV and who knows what else then the testing body writes you a TUE AFTER the fight thats cheating. You mean like passing your driving licence test in front of officials and your certificate is held up for clerical reasons so its not a valid licence. Too many young hating brains in here.

If Floyd isn’t a cheater then neither is Big Baby Miller. Yes ago it was exposed that Floyd tested dirty but with how things are with the top fighters with money and massive leverage it was swept under the rug and covered up. Respect.......

Yes, when you take a IV and who knows what else then the testing body writes you a TUE AFTER the fight thats cheating.

Floyd schooled Manny and didn't need to rematch him. Why are you posting about Floyd when you said that you wouldn't if he won FOTD? Because he is a fake person he cannot stand by his word, read his posts no stand up guy is going to write the BS he does.

For sure Floyd is a cheater as he didn't give rematch will all the controversy of fight. His legacy will suffer but Floyd weren't about legacy so not sure it matters too much Floyd schooled Manny and didn't need to rematch him. Why are you posting about Floyd when you said that you wouldn't if he won FOTD?

The Iv thing was pretty jarring imo. I think what makes it worse is that he always said he had no issues making 147 and folks always argued Floyd didn’t do weigh ins but was like three or four pounds heavier post weigh in so dehydrated was hard to argue. I mean without him failing a test it’s hard to call him a cheater. More so considering lately how many people defend failed tests and become overnight expert chemists and PED experts. Not when you understand doses, Armstrong was given 2-3000 ml on consecutive days leading up to a test, Floyd was given 750ml that is less than Ive given a 60lb Greyhound . On top of that Floyd was tested before and after the IV Fluids. Athletes do dry out and they used to give IV fluids all the time if a guy was coming down on weight too fast, its very possible to request a small amount of Fluids and amino acids if he was dehydrating too fast. Ive give Greyhound the same only a full bag 1000ml a few hours before a race because they traveled to excited and lost too much weight. You guys are more hate driven that fact driven and Peds is the go too reason for all in this forum. in the world of Ped detection not taking a test/flushing your system have always carried with it the same consequences as failing a test. he literally did the same thin many many others have been caught doing. the only difference was the response, not the action. the reason he needed the iv? "physical ailment" what does that even mean? he wasn't drained. thats well documented. were his kidneys failing or something i mean thats actually more impressive if they were. i have yet to see a legit reason why he would need that iv. usada provided no such evidence and they were the ones that gave it to him. looks like a clear cut case of regulatory capture. Floyd was 148lbs on fight night, while Pac was 150lbs. Not only that, but I dont like how the media associated the IV with roids. Its a million reasons for why he could've used an IV, and roids is one of the million. He could've been cleaning coke, weed, etc out of his system. Or lying about making weight his entire career, but the media did a poor job of trying to make it about steroid use. I would see Floyd on 24/7 looking high as hell, but he always said he didnt smoke. Then they had that one episode where everyone was blowing good weed, while Floyd was the only one who didnt? Gtfo!!