Now that we are in 2020, looking back what do you think was the most significant fight of the past decade 2010-2019?
Not necessarily the biggest fight financially, but the most significant one in terms changing the boxing landscape, signaling the beginning of a new era or the end of an era?
Notable mentions:
Rungvisai beating Gonzalez twice - the hype for RG died a horrible death. Catapulted into the #1 P4P with some iffy wins, and some okay wins, then got exposed after a few seconds in the spotlight to prove his legitimacy.
Rigondeaux schooling Donaire - Donaire had a lot of hype, a lot of highlight reel KO’s, high P4P spot, high praise. All came crashing down with this really bad loss.
Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux - Froze out from getting the big names of his weight class, riding high from the Donaire win, followed by a handful of insignificant fights, ducked as if he was prime Mike Tyson - Rigo was forced to look up for big fights. Moving up two weight classes to fight a bigger version of himself. This loss, even though it happened at a higher weight class, probably signaled the end for Rigondeaux at the top level. Did nothing the entire 2018, and at has fought 2 insignificant fights since then. He is scheduled to fight for the vacant WBA title at Bantamweight vs a no name.
There was several that were significant, money aside. I will mention the top 5 in no order.
AJ knocking out Wlad - This brought Wlad’s long reign to an end and legitimized AJ’s hype. It also gave AJ a leg up in the AJ vs Wilder conversation.
Mayweather beating Canelo - Without this win, Mayweather likely doesn’t win FOTD
Pacquiao beating Thurman - This win put a big ? on the WW division and how good they really are if an old, past prime Pacquiao beat one of the better WW’s.
Marquez KO’ing Pacquiao - This was, imo, the upset of the decade, the KO of the decade, and the best win of the decade.
Cotto KO’ing Martinez for The Ring/Lineal title at 160 - “A Martinez at 50% will still be too much for Cotto” - This was the sentiment among fans going into the fight about the underdog, Miguel Cotto’s chances of beating Sergio Martinez. After the fight, lots of excuses.
True but it was prior to 2010.
- -True dat, but it set the continuum in 2010 when Manny agreed to the TUE date in March, MGM venue, and all terms save the last minute, nonstandard drug testing that stalemated the fight.
Manny couldn't use the venue TUE reserved, but met the date with a debut of spanking new Cowboy stadium vs Clottey who TUE ducked, and months later vs Marg who TUE also ducked.
TUE couldn't challenge Manny on PPV any more than he could challenge him in the ring, a clear emasculation of the TUE family and fans that continues to this very day.
If we’re talking about the significance it impact it had on boxing, then Fury taking Wlad’s belts shouldn’t be overlooked. Actually Fury going off the rails was just as significant because the belts all got fragmented again and it opened the division up
Had Fury not gone off the rails, he might’ve arguably just continued what Wlad was doing
But that night certainly brought in a new HW era for sure.
AJ v Wlad might’ve been a grand spectacle but the Fury win was the catalyst.
Canelo still took 4 rounds off Floyd's 8. What other boxer did that on a countering game? Maidana abandoned boxing and just went forward racking up points for activity. Canelo looked impressive against Floyd after the 8th round, knowing he had to turn it up. Rounds 1-8 is basically Floyd's highlights over Canelo's mistakes, but most highlights don't focus on how Canelo made Floyd more alert and evasive after the 8th while getting tagged. The fact that it was at 152 when Floyd already full at the full limits before with DLH and Cotto suggests what?
And lastly, how is it that Canelo ''getting schooled'' whereas all other Floyd opponents didn't ''learn'' a boost in Ring IQ. It's obvious Canelo came in with the wrong gameplan. You can't box a master boxer. He was better off coming forward, a style that Canelo barely started with GGG-2. Imo, Canelo taking more hits with this approach since its more classic/rudimentary, but the fans love it.
You have to be the only person on the planet that thinks Canelo won 4 rounds that fight. Canelos mother and trainer dont even think he won that many rounds.
Floyd v Manny matched the top 2 p4p fighters, the top 2 earners, and was the last fight matching 2 genuine ATG boxers against one another. There wasn't a more significant fight during the decade.
yea I will probably go with this I was thinking maybe Fury vs Wlad as it finally released the HW division into a new era that we have today a lot more exciting and 3rd being Floyd vs Canelo old era vs the new
Forgot about AJ-Ruiz, probably one of the biggest upsets in modern boxing history. It also brought lots of casuals and interest in the Heavyweight division again.
- -Manny knocking out Oscar.
In one fell swoop, he not only knocked out May promoter, but he emasculated the Sissyboy by salvaging the same big $ fight the boy ducked out of in the middle of promotions.
And Manny jumped two divisions to do it. And that just the start.
Now that we are in 2020, looking back what do you think was the most significant fight of the past decade 2010-2019?
Not necessarily the biggest fight financially, but the most significant one in terms changing the boxing landscape, signaling the beginning of a new era or the end of an era?
Nothing really stands out, all the top fights kinda bump around in the same tier ranking but I will throw Lomachenko's first 3 fights in there - a pro debut against a top 10 ranked fighter in a 10 round fight, 2nd fight for a title, and 3rd fight winning a title. I think that threw the script that amateur boxers need time to acclimate to the pro business in the garbage.
I still can’t look past Joshua klitschko. Huge fight, could be argued as a passion of the baton, epic fight and most importantly of all - the arrival of Joshua has pulled a whole new audience to boxing and made boxing popular like it hasn’t been for at least a decade
Yeah I mean, not saying Sergio's run was great or anything to write home about.
He had some decent wins and was a fine talent at its peak just think that win over Pavlik was the catalyst for new things.
First enuff . No one really saw that coming either . Even tho pavlik hadnt done much to prove he had gotten over the hopkins disaster .
It is almost impossible not to go with the biggest fight and biggest boxing event of the Decade which was Mayweather vs Pacquiao even though the fight sucked
Oh also AJ vs Wlad Revived the Heavyweight Division IMO because it was a THRILLER! no disrespect to Fury, yeah he beat Wlad first but that fight was terrible. Wlad Dropped AJ, then AJ got off the Canvas and stopped Wlad. The Atmosphere the Entrances everything about that event was electric
Then also too you have to throw in AJ vs Ruiz I, another Thiller
I feel like this Decade is very underrated because all fans do is b#tch and complain about the sport but this Decade yeah boxing went more Corporate I would said with DAZN and PBC getting the backing of FOX and Top Rank getting the backing of ESPN however, more money being pumped into the sport of boxing than EVER which I think is a good thing. Just need to figure out how to make the big fights everybody want to see consistently and faster
that's not how sports doping works. It's not the 80-2000's anymore. NFL and MLB players didn't dope on the off season. Canelo is tested every fight, and boxers like RJJ and Toney were caught with post fight urine tests which means they were on something IN THE RING on fight night, not collections months away. In all sports including Olympic revoking of medals shows athletes on stuff DURING their competition, not months away. How do you cheat on a exam months away when you don't know the questions or problems? People cheat DURING performance day.
I see what u are saying YB . But it is very beneficial to to cycle on and off peds . I did the research as I wasnt sure about how it worked and wanted to know what my opponents had on me potentially but it's a whole differnt ball game in the AMs it's quite easy to get away with unless u are at the national and international levels (in canada u can do it at a national level when I fought and pull it off if u did it right ,but i was always a clean fighter ). The effects of a ped being used before a fight can be very relevant after said fighter has cycled off especially if they cycle off right before a training camp . Let's say fighter Anon is taking a designer ped before training camp whether to cut weight or gain strength and endurance ( or even to gain muscle and move up ) . Lets say before the cycle stated fighter Anon was at 70% , and when they cycle off they are at 100% . If they are training right through( which they surely are ) their loses are going to be much smaller let's say they are going to fall back to 85% and maintain the remaining gains with their training camp . Most of these guys are micro dosing year round out of training camp to maintain , and that's where organizations like vada come in to combat that , this is the precise reason they are around. Vada and all tests pre and post fight cover exactly what u are talking about and show that said athletes were either taking the ped and trying to mask it and failed or they cycled off wrong and need a better nutritionalist . Just thought I would shed some light on the topic . All respect . What vada etc is doing is a step in the right direction , doping will not be stopped until they start taking tests at the turn of the shortest half life of a banned designer drug. I hope I didnt take your message at all out of context I admittingly dont remember what I read in the post u were responding to but I felt I got the jist of it from your post . If I didnt my bad . **** THE LDBC !!!
It set the stage for change and newer stars to emerge I feel in a languishing MW division where now it seems to be at or near the weight range where lucrative fights can be made.
At the time Pavlik was just sorta there as and had his personal issues after Bhop took his soul in that embarrassing boxing lesson.
Without that fight Cotto at the time wouldn't have been interested in using his drawing power to negotiate a winnable fight with Sergio at a time he physically wasn't all there.
After that he was relevant enough again as lineal mw champion and a good draw still which prompted the Canelo fight which created the demand for the GGG fight.
Who knows what could have happened if that Sergio never beat Pavlik, he could have just remained inactive or fought so so mandos for however long.
Its all speculation though
I hear ya bro . I just feel it was quite stagnant til canelo and ggg came around, Jacob's came back etc . And I feel simular things could have happened as pavlik likely would Hve lost or relinquished his straps outside of the ring and the same people would have emerged besides Cotto. And I agree what would have happened if Cotto wasnt lineal at the time ??how long would canelo have stayed at 154 ?? How long could he have ?? Sorry my mind had me thinking this was a weak middleweight division so I naively ignored the word history associated with it , which is crazy . I was thinking historical significance not historically . But as I said before every hit and miss with fights or potential fights changes the course of history so I kind of debunked my own debate hahaha
Now that we are in 2020, looking back what do you think was the most significant fight of the past decade 2010-2019?
Not necessarily the biggest fight financially, but the most significant one in terms changing the boxing landscape, signaling the beginning of a new era or the end of an era?
Floyd v Manny matched the top 2 p4p fighters, the top 2 earners, and was the last fight matching 2 genuine ATG boxers against one another. There wasn't a more significant fight during the decade.