If u don't like it cool. But whats this popular thing about dissing them like they don't deserve respect putting their lives on line etc. They take the same risks as the men, put in the same work as men. As some have more heart then the men.
As a fan of boxing, as a guy who has been in the gym with female fighters, i hate how much they are dissed. I don't get it.
Their words expose them for the lying wannabees they truly are.
Anybody who had boxed themselves would have too much respect for the guts and dedication needed to compete at any level in the toughest of all sports to call fellow boxers cowards and quitters, let alone throw words like that at an Olympic gold medalist and unified world champion pro.
This exactly what i meant. Ive been side by side with women sweating and grinding. Beside them after losing fights. The first thing i noticed when i step into a box gym was the universal respect everyone had. Gender, backgrounds, whatever, we all respected each other.
Yea thats all i meant. I Fcked up my point with my first post when i made the thread.Ive made the same point about all fighters. When I first joined here I was blown away at the lack of respect for the fighters. I’ve always had respect for fighters, even the ones I didn’t root for. Till this day, I doubt that I’ve ever posted anything personally disrespectful about a fighter.
Took me awhile to adjust to the differences between life online vs offline. Many people surf the web to disconnect from reality. A lot of people get off on talking s**t about others because it makes them feel better.
I dont get it either. 90% of these ladies would whoop the dogchit out of the posters on here.
Maybe that's it?
You gotta realize, Mane. Most of the people on here have never even stepped foot inside of a boxing gym. It's why it's so easy for them to throw out words like "coward" and "bum"
Their words expose them for the lying wannabees they truly are.
Anybody who had boxed themselves would have too much respect for the guts and dedication needed to compete at any level in the toughest of all sports to call fellow boxers cowards and quitters, let alone throw words like that at an Olympic gold medalist and unified world champion pro.
Ok cool. While a not a female boxing fan I do respect women and men who dedicate themselves to something constructive. All fighters deserve respect for being fighters.
Yea thats all i meant. I Fcked up my point with my first post when i made the thread.
I wasn't clear about my point in my opening post.
I don't watch female boxing cuz of that lack of skill etc. Which yall keep bringing up.
I made this thread cuz im around and trained with females and they go through the same struggles the men do. I've never seen or heard any male fighter or anyone at the gym not show the women respect. If anything their respected even more. Same way I/We feel about kids or seniors getting into the ring.
Same way i feel about the youtube guys. Of course the skill level is terrible. But they deserve respect for getting into that ring in front of everyone, taking their time out to train for months.
Thats my point. Anything else is another topic, which my opinion mite differ completely
Ok cool. While a not a female boxing fan I do respect women and men who dedicate themselves to something constructive. All fighters deserve respect for being fighters.
You wondered why fight fans are in a hurry to diss female boxers.
I stated fans of female boxers are more than capable of expressing their respect.
Both sides are given equal mic time.
True... But if they did it would turn into pushing feminism, which already has left a bad taste in everyone's mouth.
Plus the real boxing world is all about respect. Its just fans who never fought who tend to that. Imo
Because it sucks. Also they have a chip on their shoulders so as soon as they become part of the sport they want to push social activism about how they're not awarded the same money and prestige as men. They are lackeys of feminism, spreading cultural filth onto the sport and trying to take up space through changing norms that suit themselves.
I heard that biotch Rapinoe in football (soccer to Americans) lamenting about why the male superstars don't promote activism for higher female football salaries, that they should be running around denouncing sexism, ****phobia and all this other ****.
Like i said women tend to be feminist lackeys, activists promoting radical leftist agendas as much or more as their actual performances themselves. That's why i dislike them. Claressa Shields got a little mean word against her and immediately she started feeling sorry for herself for being black... i just can't accept the cultural filth women athletes bring along with them.
Thats hella annoying especially in recent times in this country. But thats everyone, most of them barely make those statements. Tbh i only see Claressa doing that.
But that aint my point. Lol
Because it sucks. Also they have a chip on their shoulders so as soon as they become part of the sport they want to push social activism about how they're not awarded the same money and prestige as men. They are lackeys of feminism, spreading cultural filth onto the sport and trying to take up space through changing norms that suit themselves.
I heard that biotch Rapinoe in football (soccer to Americans) lamenting about why the male superstars don't promote activism for higher female football salaries, that they should be running around denouncing sexism, ****phobia and all this other ****.
Like i said women tend to be feminist lackeys, activists promoting radical leftist agendas as much or more as their actual performances themselves. That's why i dislike them. Claressa Shields got a little mean word against her and immediately she started feeling sorry for herself for being black... i just can't accept the cultural filth women athletes bring along with them.
What I don’t get is why you’ve tried to make the lack of respect you see for fighters a woman thing. You started this thread complaining about seeing people dis women fighters as if they don’t deserve respect just for getting in the ring, but my question is why are you framing that as some gender thing when male fighters are treated the same way? Posters here talk about male fighters with a lack of respect for getting in the ring and risking their lives, etc. Floyd is called scared, a runner, and accused of not taking risks during his career on this site every single day. So clearly the trolling and overall disconnect from reality that you see from so-called boxing fans online is not just reserved for female fighters. That’s my point. There’s nothing to agree to disagree with because your complaint just isn’t valid. It’s not a woman thing, it’s a troll thing.
The trolls aside tho, women boxing doesn’t get the same respect as men because they’re just not as good. They don’t deserve the same respect. Do you want to focus on the trolls who have the nerve to personally disrespect fighters while they sit on their phone or behind a computer screen, or do you want to talk about the actual quality of female boxing?
I wasn't clear about my point in my opening post.
I don't watch female boxing cuz of that lack of skill etc. Which yall keep bringing up.
I made this thread cuz im around and trained with females and they go through the same struggles the men do. I've never seen or heard any male fighter or anyone at the gym not show the women respect. If anything their respected even more. Same way I/We feel about kids or seniors getting into the ring.
Same way i feel about the youtube guys. Of course the skill level is terrible. But they deserve respect for getting into that ring in front of everyone, taking their time out to train for months.
Thats my point. Anything else is another topic, which my opinion mite differ completely
OMG.....just forget it... I get what u mean but you don't get my point when i say they all take risks.
Fighting trained fighters is a risk, if its 2mins or 3mins. If its headgear or no headgear. They all risks dying or their health. Kids have died in the amateurs, but cuz they fight different rounds, and wear headgear they shouldnt be respected for getting in that ring?? Thats my point.
Obviously men and women are different. So are men and teenagers.
Like i said to someone else maybe i should have made that more clear in my first post.
Im explaining myself cuz i feel like you don't get my point not whining fool. Lets just agree to disagree.What I don’t get is why you’ve tried to make the lack of respect you see for fighters a woman thing. You started this thread complaining about seeing people dis women fighters as if they don’t deserve respect just for getting in the ring, but my question is why are you framing that as some gender thing when male fighters are treated the same way? Posters here talk about male fighters with a lack of respect for getting in the ring and risking their lives, etc. Floyd is called scared, a runner, and accused of not taking risks during his career on this site every single day. So clearly the trolling and overall disconnect from reality that you see from so-called boxing fans online is not just reserved for female fighters. That’s my point. There’s nothing to agree to disagree with because your complaint just isn’t valid. It’s not a woman thing, it’s a troll thing.
The trolls aside tho, women boxing doesn’t get the same respect as men because they’re just not as good. They don’t deserve the same respect. Do you want to focus on the trolls who have the nerve to personally disrespect fighters while they sit on their phone or behind a computer screen, or do you want to talk about the actual quality of female boxing?
If it’s not that serious then you wouldn’t have made this thread. Clearly you think that this is serious enough to bring up for discussion now you want to whine because I’m challenging you.
You’re also lying which exposes the type of person that you are. Women fighters aren’t taking the same risks/sacrifices as the men. Fighting a woman isn’t anywhere near as dangerous as fighting a man. A woman fighter like Shields would be in much more danger and making a much bigger sacrifice in the ring fighting men than she is fighting other women. This is common sense. This is why the sport is segregated by sex. The women don’t even fight under the same rules. No woman’s fight goes longer than 10 rounds and they’re only fighting 2minute rounds, not 3 min rounds like the men. Those are huge differences.
You have no point, you’re just whining.
OMG.....just forget it... I get what u mean but you don't get my point when i say they all take risks.
Fighting trained fighters is a risk, if its 2mins or 3mins. If its headgear or no headgear. They all risks dying or their health. Kids have died in the amateurs, but cuz they fight different rounds, and wear headgear they shouldnt be respected for getting in that ring?? Thats my point.
Obviously men and women are different. So are men and teenagers.
Like i said to someone else maybe i should have made that more clear in my first post.
Im explaining myself cuz i feel like you don't get my point not whining fool. Lets just agree to disagree.
Goldie has a point. I will help you guys further to say its because of the culture of coaching female fighters. It’s not impossible for female fighters to show the same technique. Nobody is going to try an prove that women hit as hard as guys or are stronger.
A better example is to simply focus on technique and pedigree. It just isn’t there with women’s boxing. There are more ideal competitive elite sport where man and woman can be better measured. Running, Swimming, etc... those fundamentals are a bit more rudimentary with motion whereas boxing is completely a different dynamic. That’s what Goldie is referring to.
With other Olympic level sports, the more common ones, both men and women have chisseled physiques that show consistency. In boxing, women aren’t as fine tuned. Plus there are many butch and dykes in the game. It’s always been that way.
I get his point... I guess i shud have been more clear in my opening post. I understamd the skill level is subpar etc. But im saying the junior olympics is subpar also, but they all are fighters why can't they all be respected as such.
Now like or dislike, if its boring or not, skill levels, thats a whole other story.
Cuz my opinions differ from topic to topic. Thats why i always tell guys to stick to the topic. But i guess i shuda been more clear with this one
See you reaching again. Fighters are fighters is based solely on everyone take the same risks, do the same training, make the same sacrifices.
Amatuer boxing, junior olympics, senior division, women boxing they all are fighters. Skill level differ from each.
You the one, and only person to get defensive enough to start throwing insults. The fact that u took what i said then implied feminism lets me know what type of dude u are.
See how stupid it would be for me to imply that? So why would u do the same.... It aint that serious.
If it’s not that serious then you wouldn’t have made this thread. Clearly you think that this is serious enough to bring up for discussion now you want to whine because I’m challenging you.
You’re also lying which exposes the type of person that you are. Women fighters aren’t taking the same risks/sacrifices as the men. Fighting a woman isn’t anywhere near as dangerous as fighting a man. A woman fighter like Shields would be in much more danger and making a much bigger sacrifice in the ring fighting men than she is fighting other women. This is common sense. This is why the sport is segregated by sex. The women don’t even fight under the same rules. No woman’s fight goes longer than 10 rounds and they’re only fighting 2minute rounds, not 3 min rounds like the men. Those are huge differences.
You have no point, you’re just whining.
I don’t respect whiners and that’s what you’re doing, whining. Women boxing doesn’t get as much respect as men’s boxing because it’s subpar in comparison. You want to push this “fighter are fighters” ideology but obviously that’s not true because fighters are separated by sex and women fighters aren’t as good.
See you reaching again. Fighters are fighters is based solely on everyone take the same risks, do the same training, make the same sacrifices.
Amatuer boxing, junior olympics, senior division, women boxing they all are fighters. Skill level differ from each.
You the one, and only person to get defensive enough to start throwing insults. The fact that u took what i said then implied feminism lets me know what type of dude u are.
See how stupid it would be for me to imply that? So why would u do the same.... It aint that serious.
Now you reaching....#1 cuz ive responded to most of the people who disagreed. And ive been very consistent with my point.
Then u say i ignored that part, but i clearly brought it up. I just felt like that wasn't my point.
You the one who start insulting me just cuz i made a thread about women.
For the 100th time i didn't ask about liking it.... All im saying is why can't it be respected just like amateur boxing, junior Olympics, etc. 90% of prolly don't follow it but most respect them as fighters and they wear headgear and get standing 8 counts. So why not women's boxing?
We can agree to disagree without insulting ManeI don’t respect whiners and that’s what you’re doing, whining. Women boxing doesn’t get as much respect as men’s boxing because it’s subpar in comparison. You want to push this “fighter are fighters” ideology but obviously that’s not true because fighters are separated by sex and women fighters aren’t as good.
... dissing women's boxing isn't different from dissing women's football or basketball... and so on...
... but there are many other sports (much more "feminine") in which there is no "dissing"...
... at the end of the day, this thread is going nowhere... (like many others)...
Yea looks that way....lol
The reason that I doubt the you started this thread for a real discussion is because you’ve ignored the posts of people explaining why they have a lack of appreciation for women’s boxing. Even in the post you quoted from me I explained why I don’t like women’s boxing and you just ignored that part of my post to whine about me supposedly not getting your point. That’s passive aggressive man. I did get your point I just don’t agree with you.
It’s really that simple man. I don’t really care how hard the women work and saying they have more heart than men is just gaslighting. All humans deserve basic respect but women’s boxing is just a subpar inferior level of boxing compared to men’s boxing.
Now you reaching....#1 cuz ive responded to most of the people who disagreed. And ive been very consistent with my point.
Then u say i ignored that part, but i clearly brought it up. I just felt like that wasn't my point.
You the one who start insulting me just cuz i made a thread about women.
For the 100th time i didn't ask about liking it.... All im saying is why can't it be respected just like amateur boxing, junior Olympics, etc. 90% of prolly don't follow it but most respect them as fighters and they wear headgear and get standing 8 counts. So why not women's boxing?
We can agree to disagree without insulting Mane
... dissing women's boxing isn't different from dissing women's football or basketball... and so on...
... but there are many other sports (much more "feminine") in which there is no "dissing"...
... at the end of the day, this thread is going nowhere... (like many others)...
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