Jermall Charlo continues to get punked out

I didn't post that anyone claimed they were good fights SO I am not sure WTF you are responding to my post with this. I posted the GGG/Sczermeta and Andrade/Keeler fights were worse than Charlo/Hogan. Tell dazn to make the best fights. They have 3 of the top 4 MW's. There is no impediment to them giving us the fights we want. We can tell DAZN to make the best fights too, but that can be in a separate thread. Nothing wrong with having this specific thread focus on Charlo and his cowardliness.

Have some dignity mate... Nobody on the board, including DAZN ''fans'' or those GGG dumbards said the GGG vs Rolls or GGG vs Szeremeta are good fight. Nobody also said Keeler was a good fight. Nobody said Brandon Adams nor Hogan were good fights. Just keep it 100 instead of being a betch man. So what's the X-Factor? All these fights single out each other, regardless of fanbases, that MORE MONEY is the obvious fookin goal man. PARTICULARLY if its a ONE OFF FIGHT!! quit acting stupid man. I didn't post that anyone claimed they were good fights SO I am not sure WTF you are responding to my post with this. I posted the GGG/Sczermeta and Andrade/Keeler fights were worse than Charlo/Hogan. Tell dazn to make the best fights. They have 3 of the top 4 MW's. There is no impediment to them giving us the fights we want.

That's a lot of smoke and mirrors to disguise the fact that there is a significant offer on the table for Charlo that he is running away from. I can't give him a pass on that. Just like I won't give Hearn a pass for turning down 3 or 4 times Callum Smith's best payday to fight Canelo. These pussies need to man up and fight when the money is that good. I disagree my friend. The smoke and mirrors IMO is dazn using Charlo to deflect from their failure to give us the best fights. Worse, the fights dazn is giving us, GGG/Szmerta and Andrade/Keeler were worse than Charlo/Hogan, a fight many posters absolutely shat on. It's more than just calling out Hearn for refusing the offer to Smith. You aren't calling out Hearn for not making the best fights. Yet when Charlo refuses to fight Andrade, you call Haymon out for stopping the best fights from being made. That is our only real disconnect. Again, I completely understand the point you are making about Charlo. I just don't think Charlo is required to fill the gap that dazn is creating in the division because it wants to hold fights until down the road.

go call out DAZN too would you call out the pbc if erroll spence had no mikey, brook or porter on his resume....and was trying to lure jesse vargas over to fox for a career high payday while he has pac, thurman and danny all on his own network? I am calling out Eddie Hearn for pricing his fighters out against Canelo. But I'm doing that in other threads. This one should stay focused on Jermall Charlo and what a pussy he is.

No need to deflect and point at others. The bottom line remains that Charlo is ducking a unification fight for 7 figures. And he should be called out for it. go call out DAZN too would you call out the pbc if erroll spence had no mikey, brook or porter on his resume....and was trying to lure jesse vargas over to fox for a career high payday while he has pac, thurman and danny all on his own network?

its not "smoke and mirrors"..its reality.....everything he just said is true....but the finger always goes at haymon and company lol No need to deflect and point at others. The bottom line remains that Charlo is ducking a unification fight for 7 figures. And he should be called out for it.

That's a lot of smoke and mirrors to disguise the fact that there is a significant offer on the table for Charlo that he is running away from. I can't give him a pass on that. Just like I won't give Hearn a pass for turning down 3 or 4 times Callum Smith's best payday to fight Canelo. These pussies need to man up and fight when the money is that good. its not "smoke and mirrors"..its reality.....everything he just said is true....but the finger always goes at haymon and company lol

It's not an excuse to duck Andrade its the reality of the landscape. Come on dude lets be honest. DAZN doesn't want to put on Canelo/GGG 3 now. They will stage is once they have a better idea of where subscription sales are trending. They don't want to risk that fight being ruined so they will not match Canelo or GGG in a tough MW fight until after they have the 3rd fight. This is why they will not make an Andrade/GGG unification or a Andrade/canelo fight. SO they are pushing this Andrade/charlo fight rather than make an in house fight. If we all want the best fights then it seems to me we should be holding dazn accountable to make either the best fight-Canelo/GGG 3 fight-or one of the in house unification fights now. Instead, dazn is getting a pass and the blame is being placed on haymon as it always is. DAZN is denying us the best fight, not Haymon and Charlo. Dazn is delaying the division from moving forward. dazn somehow is giving fans 2 fights worse than Charlo/Hogan, yet no one is upset. I guess you can get upset at Charlo for not filling in the void created by dazn unwillingness to make the best fights and just fight Andrade. IMO this is completely unfair if you aren't mad at dazn. That's a lot of smoke and mirrors to disguise the fact that there is a significant offer on the table for Charlo that he is running away from. I can't give him a pass on that. Just like I won't give Hearn a pass for turning down 3 or 4 times Callum Smith's best payday to fight Canelo. These pussies need to man up and fight when the money is that good.

That's fine but if he uses that excuse to duck Andrade then Charlo has no reason to ever complain if anyone does the same to him for being high risk, low reward. It's not an excuse to duck Andrade its the reality of the landscape. Come on dude lets be honest. DAZN doesn't want to put on Canelo/GGG 3 now. They will stage is once they have a better idea of where subscription sales are trending. They don't want to risk that fight being ruined so they will not match Canelo or GGG in a tough MW fight until after they have the 3rd fight. This is why they will not make an Andrade/GGG unification or a Andrade/canelo fight. SO they are pushing this Andrade/charlo fight rather than make an in house fight. If we all want the best fights then it seems to me we should be holding dazn accountable to make either the best fight-Canelo/GGG 3 fight-or one of the in house unification fights now. Instead, dazn is getting a pass and the blame is being placed on haymon as it always is. DAZN is denying us the best fight, not Haymon and Charlo. Dazn is delaying the division from moving forward. dazn somehow is giving fans 2 fights worse than Charlo/Hogan, yet no one is upset. I guess you can get upset at Charlo for not filling in the void created by dazn unwillingness to make the best fights and just fight Andrade. IMO this is completely unfair if you aren't mad at dazn.

No, I don't find it odd he isn't willing to fight Andrade since no top WW will because he is a tough, awkward lefty that presents a very tough fight. Even if you win Andrade makes for such ugly TV fights that taking him on threatens to reduce your ability to land a higher profile fight. That's fine but if he uses that excuse to duck Andrade then Charlo has no reason to ever complain if anyone does the same to him for being high risk, low reward.

Don't you find it more odd that Charlo doesn't want to try to unify two belts? Even when he is being offered a career-high purse AND when the opponent is willing to go to his network for the fight? No, I don't find it odd he isn't willing to fight Andrade since no top WW will because he is a tough, awkward lefty that presents a very tough fight. Even if you win Andrade makes for such ugly TV fights that taking him on threatens to reduce your ability to land a higher profile fight.

Huh? They just had Porter and Spence unify and then Spence got into a car accident. I agree with you about seeing the best fights. I just find it odd that the best fights at MW are not happening when dazn has all the top MW's other than Charlo. I also find it weird that Andrade is pushing for a fight with the least regarded, least recognized MW champ that would bring the lowest purse, and isn't affiliated with dazn. Don't you find it more odd that Charlo doesn't want to try to unify two belts? Even when he is being offered a career-high purse AND when the opponent is willing to go to his network for the fight?

PBC has had all the best welterweights forever yet they still haven't unified. At the end of the day I just want to see good fights, Dunn. When one side is pushing for one and the other side runs away it pisses me off. Huh? They just had Porter and Spence unify and then Spence got into a car accident. I agree with you about seeing the best fights. I just find it odd that the best fights at MW are not happening when dazn has all the top MW's other than Charlo. I also find it weird that Andrade is pushing for a fight with the least regarded, least recognized MW champ that would bring the lowest purse, and isn't affiliated with dazn.

I think the optics show what is really going on. Andrade talks about fighting Charlo more than GGG and Canelo, the 2 most lucrative opponents at MW under your umbrella. The 2 guys ranked at the top of the division. They all are on the same network. The fights with them are far easier to make. It doesn't make sense. Andrade's promoter is using him as a pawn to deflect from the fact he is not making any of the best fights at MW. Make a huge issue about Charlo not taking the Andrade offer, meanwhile GGG and Andrade both fight subpar opposition rather than each other. I guess the strategy works because Charlo is catching a ton of heat meanwhile GGG/Szemarta and Andrade/Keeler are happening and Canelo is still without an opponent. PBC has had all the best welterweights forever yet they still haven't unified. At the end of the day I just want to see good fights, Dunn. When one side is pushing for one and the other side runs away it pisses me off.

What do I care, as long as we get a unification fight? Both Charlo and Andrade are low reward opponents so the big fish will put them off as long as they can...but at least they can fight each other in the meantime. The Andrade side is making every effort to make it happen by offering a career-high purse and being flexible about what network the fight can be on. But the Charlo side is completely avoiding it which I can't respect. I think the optics show what is really going on. Andrade talks about fighting Charlo more than GGG and Canelo, the 2 most lucrative opponents at MW under your umbrella. The 2 guys ranked at the top of the division. They all are on the same network. The fights with them are far easier to make. It doesn't make sense. Andrade's promoter is using him as a pawn to deflect from the fact he is not making any of the best fights at MW. Make a huge issue about Charlo not taking the Andrade offer, meanwhile GGG and Andrade both fight subpar opposition rather than each other. I guess the strategy works because Charlo is catching a ton of heat meanwhile GGG/Szemarta and Andrade/Keeler are happening and Canelo is still without an opponent.

You don't find it odd that Andrade is pushing for a unification with the one MW champ not affiliated with Hearn while ignoring the guys that share the same network and would bring him a bigger payday and far more notoriety? What do I care, as long as we get a unification fight? Both Charlo and Andrade are low reward opponents so the big fish will put them off as long as they can...but at least they can fight each other in the meantime. The Andrade side is making every effort to make it happen by offering a career-high purse and being flexible about what network the fight can be on. But the Charlo side is completely avoiding it which I can't respect.

Warrington keeps talking about coming to America. A Stevenson matchup would happen here in the States. All I know is the Andrade side is actively pursuing a Charlo fight, whether on DAZN or Showtime. The Charlo side wants nothing to do with it on any network. As a fan I appreciate Andrade trying make a meaningful unification bout. And as a fan I'm disgusted that Charlo is swerving it. You don't find it odd that Andrade is pushing for a unification with the one MW champ not affiliated with Hearn while ignoring the guys that share the same network and would bring him a bigger payday and far more notoriety?

We don't know what Andrade was set to get paid on his deal, and that's the fighter that Eddie Hearn should be concerned with. Eddie, trying to dictate Charlo's purse (with still no mention of the number on offer) was a stupid move. Relying on Bob Arum's word is just as folly a proposition (lol at Stevenson going to the UK and ****ing up Arum's content deal with BT Sport). Warrington keeps talking about coming to America. A Stevenson matchup would happen here in the States. All I know is the Andrade side is actively pursuing a Charlo fight, whether on DAZN or Showtime. The Charlo side wants nothing to do with it on any network. As a fan I appreciate Andrade trying make a meaningful unification bout. And as a fan I'm disgusted that Charlo is swerving it.

The fight should be on the network that will pay more money to everyone involved. That's common sense. It all comes down to one party willing to make the fight while the other party is ducking the fight. Even Bob Arum said he is willing to make Shakur Stevenson vs Warrington with Eddie Hearn no problem, as long as the fight is on ESPN. Just like they negotiated for Lomachenko vs Campbell. In this case it's clear that Charlo (well, Al Haymon actually, since Charlo obviously isn't his own boss) simply doesn't want that smoke with Andrade. Not even for a career high payday. We don't know what Andrade was set to get paid on his deal, and that's the fighter that Eddie Hearn should be concerned with. Eddie, trying to dictate Charlo's purse (with still no mention of the number on offer) was a stupid move. Relying on Bob Arum's word is just as folly a proposition (lol at Stevenson going to the UK and ****ing up Arum's content deal with BT Sport).

Except that's not what's been said. The closest that Eddie has come to saying anything close to that was that Demetrius Andrade could cross over to fight Jermall Charlo as long as Charlo's take on Showtime is more than Charlo's would've been on DAZN. In what world does Hearn have any say over what Charlo earns for a fight on Showtime? lol. You can't keep falling for the misdirection and the slight of hand. The fight should be on the network that will pay more money to everyone involved. That's common sense. It all comes down to one party willing to make the fight while the other party is ducking the fight. Even Bob Arum said he is willing to make Shakur Stevenson vs Warrington with Eddie Hearn no problem, as long as the fight is on ESPN. Just like they negotiated for Lomachenko vs Campbell. In this case it's clear that Charlo (well, Al Haymon actually, since Charlo obviously isn't his own boss) simply doesn't want that smoke with Andrade. Not even for a career high payday.