Fair opinion and, in fact, a probable scenario. Mine is less probable, but very exciting taking into account that Kownacki can be the first Polish HW champ (Golota should have before, but brain/mentality transplant is not possible even today lol). Lastly, I also am curious if Wilder on canvas would end like Washington or perhaps can fight back (don't know why but I have before my eyes Shavers dropping Holmes and Holmes getting up hell knows how lol)
Good lord shavers dropping holmes was insane iam not sure any other man would have got up from those punches , that right there makes me feel a prime Larry would have stuck it to a prime tyson . But that we will never know Haha. I personally think wilder may be done if he gets clipped hard , but there is only one way to find out . He needs to keep fighting top guys .
Honestly a lot of the top 10 heavyweights have a chance at upsetting the guys at the top. Fury and Wilder have done a good job of convincing fans that they are the only threats to each other, this will allow them to not have to face top 10 opponents with any regularity and a lot of fans will buy into it.
The reality is if they fight enough of the top 10 consistently they will probably suffer an upset along the way. The gap between the top 3 and the rest is not as big as many think.
That’s why am not fooled by them fighting each other twice. I want to see them against others too. Same with Ortiz, Ruiz, Whyte, Miller, Pulev, Kownacki.
For example when I look at Fury’s resume it is very thin. Yes he beat Wladimir and chisora, but who else on there? Wilder? Ok. But it would have been nice to see his resume consisting of other boxers too.
If him and Wilder just keeps fighting each other in a round robin then we wouldn’t know if one of the others can raise their levels and beat him.
We saw it with Joshua losing to Ruiz.
If Fury doesn't do it next month it will be the first one of any of the following that he dares fight.
1. Joshua
2. Whyte
3. Dubois
4. Ajagba
5. Povetkin
6. Parker
7. Klitschko
8. Usyk
9. Ruiz
10. Hrgovic
11. Hunter
In short, he's a coward ducker, lost to Fury, and won the lottery twice against the only other guy he's fought, that old Cuban dude.
I agree if kow can take wilders power this will be something else and anything can happen. And if that's the case the volume will be much more effective. Iam also curious to see how wilder reacts to being dropped by a huge punch . And I also cant argue if Ruiz did it adam can . But ruiz was in the right place at the right time , but theres no saying adam cant find himself in that position in the future too . That being said I still cant see kow stopping or beating wilder. But i do see him having great fights and winning and losing some thru the top 10
Fair opinion and, in fact, a probable scenario. Mine is less probable, but very exciting taking into account that Kownacki can be the first Polish HW champ (Golota should have before, but brain/mentality transplant is not possible even today lol). Lastly, I also am curious if Wilder on canvas would end like Washington or perhaps can fight back (don't know why but I have before my eyes Shavers dropping Holmes and Holmes getting up hell knows how lol)
OK, agreed. I also cannot see Adam as top 3 or ATG who would defend titles for years. But definitely I can see him win a belt someday. If Ruiz could, Kownacki also can.
What we still don't know:
- how strong Kownacki should be hit to be rocked or knocked down;
- how Wilder would react to so many punches with heft per minute;
- what Wilder is going to do when he kisses the canvas.
I agree if kow can take wilders power this will be something else and anything can happen. And if that's the case the volume will be much more effective. Iam also curious to see how wilder reacts to being dropped by a huge punch . And I also cant argue if Ruiz did it adam can . But ruiz was in the right place at the right time , but theres no saying adam cant find himself in that position in the future too . That being said I still cant see kow stopping or beating wilder. But i do see him having great fights and winning and losing some thru the top 10
I respect your opinion 100% and I do see the points you are making , I just have to see more from kownacki before I can get behind that . I could see a TKO long before the KO you are predicting . And I will be rooting for adam to win this and think he will bank some rounds , but as fun as adam is , he isnt top 5 and likely never will be . But I will be watching his fights as per usual and rooting for him win or lose . I think adam can def make some noise in the top 10 but I see him taking losses and that's okay . I just dont see how he gets past wilder , he has some pop , but not the one punch pop that imo its gonna take to get to wilder and stop him .....if adam beats wilder it will be by out working him via decision imo . Let's place a friendly wager on the KO when the fight comes off in good fun !!!
OK, agreed. I also cannot see Adam as top 3 or ATG who would defend titles for years. But definitely I can see him win a belt someday. If Ruiz could, Kownacki also can.
What we still don't know:
- how strong Kownacki should be hit to be rocked or knocked down;
- how Wilder would react to so many punches with heft per minute;
- what Wilder is going to do when he kisses the canvas.
Kownacki will not fight Miller, he's his dear friend. Besides, Miller is a cheat as Ortiz, Povetkin, Whyte, etc. and this fight is not necessary.
Yes you are right I forgot about that they are very close . I really wish that we could see their sparring footage , u know that was some fun stuff
Sorry, but you asked for such a comment from my part when I read your previous message. Now, ad rem -- I explained why I think Kownacki has a great chance to KO Wilder presenting arguments why. Granted, Kownacki's defence is crappy and Wilder can hit him hard and end everything, but BUT: 1) Wilder will have no time to do it as Kownacki will overwhelm him with punches and 2) Wilder's hit will have to be very precise as Kownacki rather won't drop down after punches that dropped Stiverne or Fury; the guy (Kownacki) has not been even rocked yet ever.
If Wilder's chin going to suffer what e.g. Washington's chin suffered, Wilder will lose by a KO, sorry.
I respect your opinion 100% and I do see the points you are making , I just have to see more from kownacki before I can get behind that . I could see a TKO long before the KO you are predicting . And I will be rooting for adam to win this and think he will bank some rounds , but as fun as adam is , he isnt top 5 and likely never will be . But I will be watching his fights as per usual and rooting for him win or lose . I think adam can def make some noise in the top 10 but I see him taking losses and that's okay . I just dont see how he gets past wilder , he has some pop , but not the one punch pop that imo its gonna take to get to wilder and stop him .....if adam beats wilder it will be by out working him via decision imo . Let's place a friendly wager on the KO when the fight comes off in good fun !!!
Adam needs to fight guys he can outwork , not try to stop guys who are way longer than him and will catch him coming in . I wanna see kownacki vs miller . Theres a good fight assuming miller has the same punch rate he used to off the sauce
Kownacki will not fight Miller, he's his dear friend. Besides, Miller is a cheat as Ortiz, Povetkin, Whyte, etc. and this fight is not necessary.
Whoa there champ , hold your reigns iam not some agenda driven punk like 90% of this forum and I know u arent either , let's talk boxing not start calling each other names . My mind is not closed , iam a kownacki fan but I will bet the house he doesnt stop fury or wilder . Kownacki has the defence of a hockey fighter . That's why I think he would get axed . Altho I would be rooting for him . This fight seems like it's going to happen whether or not wilder beats fury at some point so let's put a friendly wager on whether adam stops deontay or not . I know what I see . Iam willing to put my money where my mouth is ,altho I WILL be rooting for adam when this fight happens , I just dont see him stopping wilder , or winning to be honest , theres a reason this kid hasnt stepped up yet, his matchmakers see the same problems I do . Kownacki should fight parker , that's a winnable fight , a decision win for adam is highly likely .
Sorry, but you asked for such a comment from my part when I read your previous message. Now, ad rem -- I explained why I think Kownacki has a great chance to KO Wilder presenting arguments why. Granted, Kownacki's defence is crappy and Wilder can hit him hard and end everything, but BUT: 1) Wilder will have no time to do it as Kownacki will overwhelm him with punches and 2) Wilder's hit will have to be very precise as Kownacki rather won't drop down after punches that dropped Stiverne or Fury; the guy (Kownacki) has not been even rocked yet ever.
If Wilder's chin going to suffer what e.g. Washington's chin suffered, Wilder will lose by a KO, sorry.
Adam needs to fight guys he can outwork , not try to stop guys who are way longer than him and will catch him coming in . I wanna see kownacki vs miller . Theres a good fight assuming miller has the same punch rate he used to off the sauce
Open your close mind. Kownacki is both volume and power puncher. Wilder never faced such an opponent in his entire carrer....and we know how he reacted in round no. 6 and 7 with grandpa Ortiz in their 1st fight. Wilder was milimeters from being KO'd. Now imagine that Kownacki will place twice more punches on Wilder's head in 2 minutes of a single round than Ortiz in these 2 rounds in total. Wilder will lie motionless on canvas.
P.S. Kownacki has not stopped any top fighters because he has not been given such a fight yet. He stopped Washington and Szpilka much better than Wilder did tho.
Whoa there champ , hold your reigns iam not some agenda driven punk like 90% of this forum and I know u arent either , let's talk boxing not start calling each other names . My mind is not closed , iam a kownacki fan but I will bet the house he doesnt stop fury or wilder . Kownacki has the defence of a hockey fighter . That's why I think he would get axed . Altho I would be rooting for him . This fight seems like it's going to happen whether or not wilder beats fury at some point so let's put a friendly wager on whether adam stops deontay or not . I know what I see . Iam willing to put my money where my mouth is ,altho I WILL be rooting for adam when this fight happens , I just dont see him stopping wilder , or winning to be honest , theres a reason this kid hasnt stepped up yet, his matchmakers see the same problems I do . Kownacki should fight parker , that's a winnable fight , a decision win for adam is highly likely .
People say jmm beat pac 4 times. People say Pac beat Bradley 3 times.people say Castillo beat floyd. People say maidana beat floyd. People say Pac beat floyd.
So fury sure as beck beat wilder
Is this for fun ??haha kownacki couldnt stop arreola . What top fighter has he stopped ?? I love watching kownacki but he ain't no power puncher. He is a volume puncher
Open your close mind. Kownacki is both volume and power puncher. Wilder never faced such an opponent in his entire carrer....and we know how he reacted in round no. 6 and 7 with grandpa Ortiz in their 1st fight. Wilder was milimeters from being KO'd. Now imagine that Kownacki will place twice more punches on Wilder's head in 2 minutes of a single round than Ortiz in these 2 rounds in total. Wilder will lie motionless on canvas.
P.S. Kownacki has not stopped any top fighters because he has not been given such a fight yet. He stopped Washington and Szpilka much better than Wilder did tho.
If Ruiz trained properly, he is more than capable of beating Wilder. He would get inside of those long ass arms and fuk him up.
I agree but I couldnt put him on my short list until I see him in shape and beat a legit opponent . But ruiz would be a good candidate at his best ......hands down the most solid chin in the division , and very fast hands . HOWEVER dont u think Ruiz's concrete feet may make him the prime target for the one hitter quitter ?? That's my worry in this fight .
If the cut holds up fury may do it on the 22nd . My pick for someone to beat wilder is prolly usyk , or fury . Maybe joshua if he goes at wilder trying to kill him on the inside early . Iam not saying I would pick any of these guys but fury . But they have the best shot imo
Fury already beat him and he’ll do it again. Wilder has that dog in him and I respect the hell out of that but at the end of the day, any decent boxer with chin can beat him. Anybody has a shot against a wildman like him.