Floyd's Illegal IV; A Prefight Ritual Or A One-Time Thing?

BS it was always common practice to use IVs making weight loads of fighters and UFC guys would be over dry and need IV fluids, it is for dehydration thats its purpose and the amount Floyd took was less than you would give a Greyhound, dont talk about what you dont know or assume to be true. If you need fluids just for dehydration, you can just drink. Was Mayweather so dehydrated he couldn’t drink? Was he vomiting? That is what is BS. You are the one who doesn’t know what you are talking about.

Manny and lance won a lot. In the end they both paid a heavy price for cheating. Manny didn’t beat Floyd. Lance got caught. It’s really simple, if Manny fans want to accuse jmm and Floyd of ped use then the rest of us can accuse manny of ped use. I’m fine either way. Either we give credit to the winners or we denigrate success by smearing. I’ll let you manny fans decide how it’s gonna be. So you just admitted that’s the only reason you are accusing Pacquiao of PED use, because Mayweather is being accused, even for good reason.

Unless there's a record of Pac failing a drug test, I think he means recreational drugs. I'd say most teenage fighters use some form of recreational drug. BTW;what's this have to do with Floyd's IV, the night before his biggest fight? "I think what he means"? lol. WTF? Meth is considered a PED as per WADA. You're the one who brought the defemation lawsuit into the thread as proof....now you don't want to talk about it? 2010 Manny "I don't know what a ped looks like" Pacquiao.

Point is he was a professional boxer as a teenager..... and didnt start out as a champion. Can't deny that. Unless there's a record of Pac failing a drug test, I think he means recreational drugs. I'd say most teenage fighters use some form of recreational drug. BTW;what's this have to do with Floyd's IV, the night before his biggest fight?

He got caught with a needle sticking in his arm. You're lying. Nobody "caught" Floyd doing anything. He told USADA he was sick. He called a paramedic with USADA there to witness. He told USADA he'd be filing a therapeutic use exemption. He rehydrated via IV with USADA there to witness. He filed a therapeutic use exemption. An independent panel of doctors and experts, who aren't told who the athlete is, examined all of the evidence and medical information and concluded the IV was an appropriate treatment and a legitimate therapeutic use.

I think floyd masking of PEDS was more dangerous than margarito handwraps...

He pummeled another b1tch on may 2, 2015 in front of his children too! He almost choke pac with his hugging techniques... :lol1:

Why not give respect to Floyd for all the hard work he's done? When you achieve something in your own life, you wouldn't want to be insulted, so put out that same energy towards others. Floyd did this to himself. He got caught with a needle sticking in his arm.. Floyd will do everything to have an advantage before the fight.. Floyd wanted a fair fight and fair fight for floyd means that all of his demands (gloves, ring, referee, judges, testing agency, etc..) should be accepted or there will be no fight... That's fair for floyd..

Your article says Pac used drugs as a teenager in the Philippines. If Mayweather had any proof at all that Pac used drugs as a boxer, he would have produced it instead of settling the suit, paying Pac and making a public apology. Also it's interesting that FM settled the suit after Pac's lawyers subpoenaed Floyd and UASDA for production of all documents pertaining to the PEDS testing of FM for 3 fights where the lawyers had heard Floyd's "A" sample had tested positive. FM settled and drug testing results were never produced. Point is he was a professional boxer as a teenager..... and didnt start out as a champion. Can't deny that.

Yawn. Put it on a sign and bring it to Floyd’s hof induction ceremony. Also bring the video of you and your friends at the party watching the fight. I bet it will be hilarious to watch you being forced to face the reality of who the better man was. Did you cry? What’s it like having your hero emasculated like that in front of you? Induction for what? The cherrypicker's Hall Of Fame? You got your TMT pom poms fluffed up for the big occasion? Is that when he's going to announce a rematch with the Japanese kickboxer?

here's the thing: this is a fighter who claims to cut no weight. wasn't sick, didn't show any medical justification for the use of an IV. in cases of mild even to moderate dehydration the most effective method for rehydration is to drink fluids. this is well studied. so how does a fighter who claims to cut zero weight require 3/4 of a liter of saline and vitamins? the main reason these transfusions are "illegal," and require what is essentially a doctor's note, is not for performance enhancing, but to stop athletes from using the IV's to mask PED use and flush them out of the system to pass a drug test. at the very least what happened, the commision's handling of it, and the hysterical 180 they took to all of a sudden defend floyd mayweather, was highly suspicious. do i suspect floyd of PED use particularly in that fight, given the circumstances? of course. FFS the guy got caught taking an illegal IV in exactly the manner used by lance armstrong and others to mask their PED use and pass drug tests. and again, he wasn't sick, wasn't dehydrated according to any thing they've been able to produce. at the very least you've got egg on your face and look like a goddamn child if you accuse pacquiao of ducking floyd for years and years becasue of PED use and then you don't make a f#cking sound when this happens. Exactly, It is so obvious Floyd cheated. IF you are a rational boxing fan seeing all the tell tale signs of what Floyd did with those IVs against Manny. That's mute and academic. That alone shows his win against Manny is a dud. In any sport cheating is an automatic DQ. It only shows how empty Floyd's win is, and not to mention why he calls for a rematch with Pacquiao and like a used car salesman, Floyd takes back in what he says of fear of having to fight Pac in a a fair game scenario. Fear of a real fight with no IVs scares him, after-all he knows an injured Pacquiao was too much for him with all those IVs in his system he still had to run and hug for 12 rounds against a busted right shoulder Pacquiao. And that is why.. as the days, years pass-by, Floyd's fake win will resonate and only taint his career for the obvious reason. He didn't really win against Manny. http://i.imgur.com/rxPYIvm.jpg?1 Floyd Mayweather: " I owe them for the Pacquiao fight " LINK: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/08/27/i-owe-them-for-the-pacquaio-fight-mayweather-pleases-fans-with-win-over-mcgregor/?utm_term=.89dc0b6bea1b http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2059/9976/original.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FqCmQjbtD5U/maxresdefault.jpg

So he held his pee all day so that he could pee and then try to stop himself from peeing mid pee, making sure to pee less than 90ml, even though a small percentage of that is still plenty for a drug test. And he did all of this, even though he was supposedly bribing USADA, so he could then take an IV, pee again, to try to cheat a different test, so he could then apply for a TUE, and going through all of these hoops, even though he was supposedly bribing USADA and would have passed all of their tests anyway. Think about how ****ing stupid all of that is. If USADA was in Floyd's back pocket, why would he even need to provide a sample at all? And if he did provide a sample, why would it matter if it passed the test? And if it mattered if it passed the test, why would it matter if he was masking? And if it mattered if he was masking, why would he need a TUE? Why would any of this exist if he was bribing USADA? Wouldn't he just automatically pass all of the tests and not have to do any of this you ****ing moron? How would he explain away a PED , he has already had adverse findings, when pacquaio had his test results subpoenaed, He was very quick to throw mountains of money to settle out of court. As for not testing, there is a paper trail and all samples are kept frozen so that is not an option. So answer me why USADA cut WADA out via the contract that was signed

These Manny empty heads dont realize 750ml wouldnt mask anything, Lance Armstrong was using 2000ml + regularly . 750ml is less than a greyhound would get, Manny fanboy Floyd haters are such a dumb bunch. 750ml is about 16 percent of his blood volume, you think that won't make a difference

If your contention is that the entire United States doping system is completely corrupt, a wide ranging conspiracy, consisting of hundreds, if not thousands of doping control officers, doctors, experts, staff, chemists, lab workers, etc, I don't know what to tell you. There's no evidence to support any of that, but I can't stop a crazy person from believing crazy things. If USADA was corrupt, why would they bring down Lance Armstrong, who was generating tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions, for the US government, when the US government funds USADA? Doesn't make any sense. If USADA was corrupt, why did Floyd even need a TUE? Why would he even need an IV if the IV was to mask? Why would he need to mask anything? If Floyd had USADA in his pocket, why would he have to worry about failing a test, and need to mask, and need TUE and all this other stuff? Doesn't make any sense. That's a lie. The TUE was reported to Top Rank and the commission, so Floyd and USADA were fully expecting for the TUE to become public at some point. Since IV was legal in Nevada, nobody thought it was a big deal. HBO turned it into a big deal by paying Hauser to write the smear campaign. Confidentiality clause jnr

You so dont know what youre talking about . Just a quick question what about the 22 tests before and after the Fluids IV ? You create a boogie man when the boogie man was shot dead way before. Do you think Pacquiao has been on peds? , so how has he passed more tests than fluid, as tests come out, so do ways to beat them, EPO HAS A TESTING WINDOW OF AROUND 24-48 HOURS JNR

So you’re going to act like Manny’s physique didn’t change? It definitely did....so did Marquez....it’s cause they were using hgh Floyd on the other hand his physique never changed and he never was even linked to any ped, all they have is an iv drip that had vitamins...which the fear is you could dilute your blood test and mask a drug but Floyd had blood tested before the iv that was clean...also taking hgh once right before a fight ain’t gonna help you but whatever These Manny empty heads dont realize 750ml wouldnt mask anything, Lance Armstrong was using 2000ml + regularly . 750ml is less than a greyhound would get, Manny fanboy Floyd haters are such a dumb bunch.

Lol! When the hate don’t work, they start telling lies!!! You losers still arguing over this!! Lmao. Floyd ducked a prime pac and Floyd is a steroid user, known fact. Close this thread before these losers commit suicide. So you’re going to act like Manny’s physique didn’t change? It definitely did....so did Marquez....it’s cause they were using hgh Floyd on the other hand his physique never changed and he never was even linked to any ped, all they have is an iv drip that had vitamins...which the fear is you could dilute your blood test and mask a drug but Floyd had blood tested before the iv that was clean...also taking hgh once right before a fight ain’t gonna help you but whatever

Or he held it in so he could dilute his levels somewhat So he held his pee all day so that he could pee and then try to stop himself from peeing mid pee, making sure to pee less than 90ml, even though a small percentage of that is still plenty for a drug test. And he did all of this, even though he was supposedly bribing USADA, so he could then take an IV, pee again, to try to cheat a different test, so he could then apply for a TUE, and going through all of these hoops, even though he was supposedly bribing USADA and would have passed all of their tests anyway. Think about how ****ing stupid all of that is. If USADA was in Floyd's back pocket, why would he even need to provide a sample at all? And if he did provide a sample, why would it matter if it passed the test? And if it mattered if it passed the test, why would it matter if he was masking? And if it mattered if he was masking, why would he need a TUE? Why would any of this exist if he was bribing USADA? Wouldn't he just automatically pass all of the tests and not have to do any of this you ****ing moron?

Or he held it in so he could dilute his levels somewhat Explain how there was no appeal possible to WADA You so dont know what youre talking about . Just a quick question what about the 22 tests before and after the Fluids IV ? You create a boogie man when the boogie man was shot dead way before.

His body wasn't capable of giving the required amount of fluid, which would support the notion that he was dehydrated. He still had to give a full sample to satisfy his requirements, but the partial sample would still be tested and if he was trying to flush his system with the IV, he still would have been caught by the partial sample. USADA samples have to be at least 90ml, but you can easily test less than that and find signs of doping. Or he held it in so he could dilute his levels somewhat Explain how there was no appeal possible to WADA