Lennox Lewis= Top 3 in History

Well yea. You said Joyce wouldn't make it in the pro ranks and said Fury gets knocked out against Wilder ,among a few other gems ,but ...like I said Plunger you put your foot in your own mouth at times. you don't actually see your own stupidity but you are a legend in your own little mind in your place bc you think your some old time boxing guru, maybe to most on here ,but unfortunately in here on Im on the forum and you play second fiddle maybe third ? That's how the cookie crumbles as they say...though you're still a decent boxing knowledgeable even if your warped sometimes nut being friendly just isn't going to work out and when you are WRONG its REALLY bad Just remember BITC.H boy now I OWN you on here now ,be careful what you post bc AS usual i'll be taxing that AZZ !:rofl: well fury almost split 2nd did and could have been counted out by another ref , that’s. Very fine call , I said to you Joyce will never win a world title and cannot punch and asi said if the Dubois fight takes plCe I’ll go with Dubois , “you said a novice Joshua would beat a proven all time great heavyweight in Lewis , yeah a 16 fight novice Joshua beating a fighter thatranks in top 3 heavies off all time......I’ve seen you endlessly get berated for being an idiot on here , you got owned by Larry the lion who threatened to lay one on you , your not taken seriously on this site so shut up gumbo

Ranking Heavyweights is a bi.tch. They're not the same size, so you're kinda doing a P4P list. I guess it depends on your criteria: Head-to-Head Longevity Precociousness Defenses Quality of Opposition How he advanced the sport the eye test Fury easily tops the list: No one beats that guy when he is on; best defensively; best comeback in Boxing history. Everyone else, even at their best or near it, was beaten. Ali and Lewis obviously round out the top 3. Holmes probably sneaks in before anyone else. Then you have guys like Vitali, Foreman and even Frazier. After that you can start talking about Lewis. Something like this is probably about as close as you'll get to accurate: Fury Ali Louis Holmes Klitchko Foreman Frazier Lewis Klitchko Dempsey Wilder Holyfield Marciano Norton Tyson Liston You cannot add fury to that list , he has one name on his resume as a win and that was a bore fest with Klitschko , fury’s other big win was chisora...so come on behave tromboner

Holyfield fought nothing like Lewis in that fight. Maybe there were points in Lewis' career where he wasn't ready for Bowe. And the best Bowe was a much taller order than Mercer and Holyfiled (on offense). So yeah, I shouldn't be too dismissive of Bowe. But stylistically, Bowe would struggle with Lewis. Just like I have been explaining to others in the Frazier-Bowe thread that Frazier plays to Bowe's advantages. Well also we all saw the Olympic finals in 88 . Lennox could beat bowe at any point but he certainly would not outclass him in 1993

Well obviously but I'm no crapping on Lewis those are just the straight up facts. A top 3 fighter in the world does not lose to 2 journeyman in his prime, let alone by KO. How is Rahman a journeyman?? Hes a massive over achiever , 2 time heavyweight champion of the world ( 1 time lineal ) and he has a better record than every champion active today . Iam not saying he would beat them head to head , but the man fought everyone and was in the top 10 for over 7 years , he is not a journeyman . Every dog has their day and Lennox avenged those defeats and righted his wrong , I dont see how that takes away from his legacy , if anything it adds to it . Also the journeyman Rahman would have hands down the best jab in the heavyweight division today and that isnt saying much . Are we in an era of all journeymen ??

Holyfield fought nothing like Lewis in that fight. Maybe there were points in Lewis' career where he wasn't ready for Bowe. And the best Bowe was a much taller order than Mercer and Holyfiled (on offense). So yeah, I shouldn't be too dismissive of Bowe. But stylistically, Bowe would struggle with Lewis. Just like I have been explaining to others in the Frazier-Bowe thread that Frazier plays to Bowe's advantages. I agree holyfield never fought like lewis , my reasoning is bowes jab , footwork , reflexes everything was on point that night .that was in hindsight his one great performance. The main give away for me is bowe would simply outjab and outbox a pre steward lewis . Lewis primed late . Seriously tho watch bowe holyfield 1 and tell me which atg heavyweight in history you would pick to beat that man . And I mean outclass and beat his ass not land a one hitter quitter .

Ps. Ali was dropped by many, including Henry Cooper. That means nothing, just that you were in competitive fights and found a way to win In fact, against McCall and Rahman (first fights of course) that did not happen to Lewis :) Then, if we want to consider all the rest, I have further clarified my position about Lennox in a subsequent post, please read it.

Tyson was dead, I would not include him in the list. Only Lewis still brags about beating that shot shell of Tyson (full of Zoloft, for good measure). Ruddock had been softened by the very Tyson. Klitschko was giving Lewis hell before suffering that horrible gash. Lewis was a good fighter for sure, but definitely not all-time top 3. PS getting knocked out by Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman while in your prime doesn't help. Ps. Ali was dropped by many, including Henry Cooper. That means nothing, just that you were in competitive fights and found a way to win

He was basically the same fighter that night as the one who out-boxed Tua and Tyson, and who nearly flat-lined against an unprepared Klitchko. Lewis looked greatagainst certain fighters and pedestrian against others. No vrsion ofBowe could handle any version of Lewis' jab. It would probably be tremendously problematicfor Foreman, too. that is w This fight was supposed to happen in 92 / 93 do u really mean to tell me the lewis who fought frank bruno would 100% beat a prime champion bowe coming off the first holy fight?? I dont see it .

He was basically the same fighter that night as the one who out-boxed Tua and Tyson, and who nearly flat-lined against an unprepared Klitchko. Lewis looked greatagainst certain fighters and pedestrian against others. No vrsion ofBowe could handle any version of Lewis' jab. It would probably be tremendously problematicfor Foreman, too. that is w Listen iam a huge lewis fan , but the guy who fought rock the second go was nothing like the fighter who fought tua , tyson , or vitali lennox fought with 0 urgency in those fights . Rahman 2 he was laser focused. That version of Lennox could beat any version of bowe but if he ran into the bowe from holyfield 1 he would have his hands very full as would any heavyweight in history .

If those right hands landed on you, you would be dead. Well obviously but I'm no crapping on Lewis those are just the straight up facts. A top 3 fighter in the world does not lose to 2 journeyman in his prime, let alone by KO.

Tyson was well past his prime by the time they fought, but I still think Lewis was a nightmare matchup for him regardless. And you forgot to add he whitewashed Tua as well. Top 3 GOAT, I'm not sure he's up there, but top 3 for HWs, I can get with that.

Holyfield was over the hill by then.

If you give a credit to Lennox for beating Mike Tyson, than you must give Mike Tyson a credit for beating Holmes. And, yeah, Larry Holmes had better career than Lennox.

Lewis in his prime can hang in any era. Especially those smaller HW era, he is very underrated IMHO. I mean he took on Vitali who is very durable and stop him on cuts in a fight he was losing. He throws a different arsenal of punches, he has the right speed for a big man and I could see him destroying this current top of HW in the same year, back to back.. I would have love to see him and Wlad share the ring.

lewis would destroy Marciano ......knock him in to tomorrow. Marciano has zero chance with Lewis ...zilch This ^ and I don't think anyone outside of a serious Rocky fan would disagree. Simply too large of a size and skill gap

I'm surprised that Lennox Lewis doesn't get more love when it comes to the All-time GOAT list. His resume is one of the strongest in history. No HW fighter beat every man he faced while doing it against strong competition. -Olympic Gold Medalist -3 time HW Champion -Retired as the HW Champion Beat: Razor Rudduck Mike Tyson Evander Holyfield Vitali Klitschko Muhammad Ali is the GOAT but after that Lennox Lewis compares just as well to Joe Louis, George Foreman, Sonny Liston. "Lennox Lewis is the greatest Heavyweight of all-time" -George Foreman I agree he's in the ATG discussion, especially H2H. LL was very big man for the 90's HW division and had serious skills. The only knock on him Is that he was starched twice while in his prime.

Nope, they're random. I was already speaking about Layne, you just have a reading comprehension issue because you're a flat skulled buffoon. You're mad because I made fun of Usyk? What a sad little man you are. Rocky would hurt Usyk badly. All you exposed was your lack of understanding the difference between a three body system and a single body system like the dumb**** you are It doesn't take any intellect at all to be a Boxrec whore. You're just a cliche. What amazes me is how you assume you've imparted anyone with any information they did not have. I know you're real ****ing stupid so let me explain in real simple terms. If not for my affinity to entertain just about any dumbass who responds to me your posts would amount to "So?" Ricky posed a solid question, I responded to it. You just posted random **** you think detracts from a record. let me exemplify that. That bit about " If I posted what happened after Marciano" You're ****ing dumb, I already did. In the post you're responding to the first stat I threw out was he retired 25 men. The **** are you going to bring up about guys performances post Marciano when I've already pointed out the majority, more than half of them, were put into retirement you goofy neanderthal prick? The remaining minority didn't do so well? :lol1: Chittering monkey, climbs a tree, calls himself tall. lewis would destroy Marciano ......knock him in to tomorrow. Marciano has zero chance with Lewis ...zilch

Lewis would kill Marciano. These guys really don’t know boxing ,I know even if I prove you wrong most times...difference between ou and them you can actually fight and have reasonable points with good insight in the past ....those guys ? Never put a mouthpiece in . You never once proved me wrong , I said lewis was way above Joshua and that’s been proven and you said a novice Joshua could beat Lewis , I also said joe Joyce will never win a world title and I’m willing to wager with you that if the proposed Dubois vs Joyce fight takes place I’ll go with Dubois. Please don’t write to me your a fruitcake and loony....as for fighting yeah I have many time , pop over fruitcake I’ll be willing to pop in that gumshield and make you piss blood

he has a case for it but the others have marginally stronger perhaps. After Ali and Louis at number 1 and 2 (either way), the chasers for 3rd and 4th are all very close together.

His resume is not even very good. he beat many guys that were damaged goods already.