We all know boxers are a different breed and a lot have come from rough upbringings. With fame and money comes problems. There have been a lot of disciplined fighters in and out of the ring however there have been just as many that lived wild and at times reckless lives. Can you guys think of fighters whose lifestyles ended in tragedy?
A more recent one that comes to mind is Hector Camacho. He won his first title in his hometown of Bayamon, Puerto Rico and about 30 years later would be shot dead in that same town just a couple of miles from the stadium where he won that title.
There are a ton of them.
Lamar Parks
Clifford Etienne
Ike Ibeabuchi
Edwin Valero
Naseem Hamed
Riddick Bowe
not even thinking about it much I could list a lot.
Makes you wonder if getting punched in the head a lot of your life just made the mind make bad decisions.
um...Riddick Bowe isn't dead. Naseem either, he just got fat.
There used to be a stat trotted out that the number one cause of death in boxers was gunshot.
Don't think I've ever seen evidence or support of it though.
Well to be fair if you look at the initial post of mine you quoted, and what you said in reply, we're saying the exact same thing more or less.
It was all very strange and tragic though on many levels. Sam would have been even more successful than Max had he survived I imagine. My username, though also part of an Ali quote that was the inspiration for the trademarked phrase of Michael Buffer, is also the title of Max and Sam's hip hop song about boxing. IMO the track still holds up to this day!
That track is dope I forgot about that hahaha . It's a real shame about Sam's passing I agree . Not just for the lack of human life but for the fact that he never got a chance to get his name out there mainstream like we both seem to agree would have happened . Either way good topic . And you're right we are saying the same thing with slightly different context lol
Tommy Morrison. Use protection kids.
Yeah man. That ESPN 30 for 30 on him was tough to watch. Especially at the end where they showed a pic of him essentially on his death bed. That pic was disturbing.
No bro it's a fair contribution , I value your opinion and just kind of thought of that as I was typing . Something was wrong upstairs with butler .....whether he was using drugs to create a bad mental state or he was using them to cope with one lifestyle is still a factor . Just pointing out it may have been out of butler's hands ( level headed decision making ).
Well to be fair if you look at the initial post of mine you quoted, and what you said in reply, we're saying the exact same thing more or less.
It was all very strange and tragic though on many levels. Sam would have been even more successful than Max had he survived I imagine. My username, though also part of an Ali quote that was the inspiration for the trademarked phrase of Michael Buffer, is also the title of Max and Sam's hip hop song about boxing. IMO the track still holds up to this day!
I think he had substance abuse issues as well that contributed to his demise and killing of Sam. Not really thread fitting I guess but I wanted to contribute and couldn't think of anything unique that hadn't been posted yet.
No bro it's a fair contribution , I value your opinion and just kind of thought of that as I was typing . Something was wrong upstairs with butler .....whether he was using drugs to create a bad mental state or he was using them to cope with one lifestyle is still a factor . Just pointing out it may have been out of butler's hands ( level headed decision making ).
Hows about his taped hand sucker punch of richard the alien grant when grant was going in for a handshake....I think it was more butler's mental illness than his lifestyle that lead to his demise
I think he had substance abuse issues as well that contributed to his demise and killing of Sam. Not really thread fitting I guess but I wanted to contribute and couldn't think of anything unique that hadn't been posted yet.
Not really a similar example but James Butler and his killing of Sam Kellerman was pretty tragic. More due to his mental illness and being a piece of human garbage than lifestyle though I can almost guarantee.
Hows about his taped hand sucker punch of richard the alien grant when grant was going in for a handshake....I think it was more butler's mental illness than his lifestyle that lead to his demise
Johnny Tapia- Had a terrible childhood that led to many drug abuse issues throughout his life. He died of heart failure at age 45.Sad when you read stories like his. Ive often wondered how many of us would end up like him if we were in similar shoes?
We all know boxers are a different breed and a lot have come from rough upbringings. With fame and money comes problems. There have been a lot of disciplined fighters in and out of the ring however there have been just as many that lived wild and at times reckless lives. Can you guys think of fighters whose lifestyles ended in tragedy?
A more recent one that comes to mind is Hector Camacho. He won his first title in his hometown of Bayamon, Puerto Rico and about 30 years later would be shot dead in that same town just a couple of miles from the stadium where he won that title.
I often describe it as those who fought and struggled with their demons...
I think of Edwin Valero, Tommy Morrison, and Mike Tyson. (Although you could say Tyson's story has a bit more redemption to it)
Not really a similar example but James Butler and his killing of Sam Kellerman was pretty tragic. More due to his mental illness and being a piece of human garbage than lifestyle though I can almost guarantee.