The haters have hated for 5 years and Wilder is still the champion.

I'm not claiming anything. It's easily verifiable fact. Look it up yourself. Of course you are claiming stuff. You're claiming that Wilder has a better boxing record than Joshua. Let me.help: he doesnt. And he's ducking. He's a fraud bro.

"The Baptism" February 22nd, 2020 Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury https://instagram.fewr1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t51.2885-15/e35/s1080x1080/82700771_1456315824527787_6187067733583666420_n.jpg?_nc_ht=instagram.fewr1-4.fna.fbcdn.net&_nc_cat=103&_nc_ohc=IPLorCZn0EMAX-lRIhy&oh=f38fb37fa7ad756ad9890ef1b5f9af7a&oe=5EFF4D28

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Getting knocked down doesn’t mean your hurt all the time if your legs are solid when you get back up only casual fans think that ,you have more chances of losing a fight getting a bit wobbly on the feet because you can get hurt with follow up shots that do more damage you may not see coming then minimum ones even putting some one down . If this wasn’t the case Fury wouldn’t have Wilder holding on ,to Knockout Fury he’s going to have to land more then 2 punches at a time and that’s what people like you don’t understand , you could educate yourself even being a Wilder fan ,just go back to the Cunningham fight after Fury goes down then see who gets hurt shortly after . No I took the time to make sure you knew that I know you lied ,it’s no time at all when you know what you’re talking about ,not much brain power needed ,I’m not sure you understand this ? Ha Fury went down twice. Once flat on his back for a 9 count. Claiming that Fury was never hurt truly shows how stupid and biased you are I'll let that stupidity stand on it's own. You're clearly lying. That says everything that needs to be said about you. You can't even be taken seriously. Even Tyson Fury was quoted as saying that punch nearly gave him brain damage. But your dumb ass claims he wasn't hurt lol. I'll wait for your next 10 paragraph response that does nothing to change that . You better pray Fury wins. If he doesn't you're going to be psychologically damaged.

The one seriously hurt is only inside your head,however the one that needed to hold on was Wilder you don't do that if you are not in trouble and hoping the bell rings ,its the third time Wilder was in trouble at the end of a round . I don't know why posters like you invest so much time lying it only makes you look like you haven't a clue and you lose credibility ,your post here proves that , what narrative did I change you're the one jumping from subject to subject. You claimed Ortiz didn't stuggle proven wrong. You then claimed no one said Ortiz was struggling ,proven wrong listen to the announcer but wouldn't the near knockdown of Ortiz and bloodied face show you that ? I guess not ,education is lacking , I know. That's two things you got wrong. You then claimed Wilder didn't buckle in the Fury fight but I provided time stamped points of the fight that once again showed the exact opposite you claimed . That's the third one you struck out on . You then changed the discussion entirely and now your 4th lie is that I said anyone was seriously hurt and brought up Furys knockdown as if it deflects the lies you were caught in ? But im the liar not you ? I wont be on suicide watch as stated I don't invest time lying about a fighter just to protect his image ,as I post this im sure the Wilder fans are already got the excuses ready if Wilder does win and he runs away from undisputed afterward ,now go ahead tell me the fight isn't possible and that will be a fifth lie. HA You proved nothing and is always obvious to me when my post hurt feelings LOL. You took the time to write a mini novel in response to me because it took me two paragraphs to expose that you're a fan boy and a liar lol. Wilder was hurt more hurt than Fury huh? LOL!

Yeah, but Wilder won't fight Parker and I'd be surprised if he fights Joshua. AJ may be vulnerable, but it really depends on how he chooses to fight. Wilder is vulnerable regardless, because he is clearly less skilled. His chin too..he not a pure boxer he will eventually get hit. Can u take it is the question.

When you fight no-hopers and C-rate opponents for 40 fights that is bound to happen. Got a gift against Fury.

@46 seconds Wilder is caught with a right and stumbles backwards . @ 5:45 Wilder eats a right hand and you can see he shakes his knees go numb and we can tell by the way his body shifts that is being buckled. https://youtu.be/0i_PBTQAtWQ That’s not included the multiple times he was stunned ,but you know the deal ,it’s why you guys are the most lying group in the sports history . Here’s another video showing what and how Wilder reaction when buckled or stunned . He stiffens up and that’s a sign of a guy who hasn’t reacted well when hit ,even Breazeale stunned him with a grazing shot the only one he landed ,go ahead tell me I’m lying again because Wilder said it himself . https://youtu.be/0i_PBTQAtWQ I look forward to after the fight you guys are going to be on suicide watch. Ha https://youtu.be/pwI_CZdyCVw The only thing I got out of that was Fury getting knocked down with his eyes rolled in the back of his head and a 20 count. It's funny how you try to change the narrative and pretend that Wilder was the one seriously hurt. That's shows who the liar is. No suicide watch for me no matter what happens. You have your head so far up Fury's ass that you'll be the one on suicide watch if he loses. I'll be watching lol

Wilder has been the world champion of the entire sport of boxing for five years now. The unified NYSAC/IBU/NSC heavyweight champion of the world, tracing back over a hundred years. He's made ten successful defenses and next month he attempts to become the lineal world heavyweight champion as well. Is this why he is so hated? Nobody expected him to come this far, so everybody feels stupid for assuming he would fail? Sure the trolls will cry and say he's protected or hasn't fought top fighters, but Boxrec proves that's complete bull****. Until recently, he was #1 in the world in the computerized rankings and even now he is #2. Which would be literally impossible if he'd been protected and hadn't fought top fighters. The Boxrec computers don't care about belts or hype. They just analyze the results of every fight on the planet and assign points based on your level of competition. If Wilder knocks out Fury and becomes the lineal heavyweight champion of the world, what will the haters say then? He should have an L and no belts right now.

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Wilder's biggest opponents in the past five years are two fights with OG Ortiz and recovering addict Fury. And guess what? They both gave him difficulty. Wilder is a champion with one belt. We can talk about how great he is when he unifies, which he promised to do last year. We're still waiting for him to even make a fight which could bring that about, but he has said that he doesn't need Joshua. Yeah, he's awesome! :fing02:

He's still the champion and his best win is still Luis Ortiz. What a huge joke. He won't fight anyone he doesn't want to fight. He's nothing without Fury. What a champion.

Me too. I don't think Joshua will beat Wilder, he too vulnerable and his boxing skills aren't clean enough to avoid Wilder for 12 rounds. I would favor Parker over Wilder b4 Joshua tbh Yeah, but Wilder won't fight Parker and I'd be surprised if he fights Joshua. AJ may be vulnerable, but it really depends on how he chooses to fight. Wilder is vulnerable regardless, because he is clearly less skilled.

Well yeah, that's even more removed, that's exactly my beef. A beats B, B over C, does not mean A will be C A beats B, C has no one the caliber of B on his record, A is more proven. Eh? Isn't caliber just even more convoluted subjectivity? You're saying it is silly to exalt one over another even though one has a direct win over another's direct loss BUT it's okay to elevate one over another even without a direct win because he has a win you think is higher caliber than any of the latter's wins. That's even more removed, convoluted, and subjective than triangle theory. Why aren't fighters compared at comparable calibers then? If Wilder has no good wins why not compare his bad wins to others bad wins and explain how Wilder's became so much more devastating than anyone else's. Even Marciano has a Lowry. Ever bruiser, every skill king, everyone of them fought cans, but we use resume as a reason to just disregard that part of their record rather than a reason to compare only that part of their records. We just say X has the better names and so wins this comparison....subjective, convoluted, and very close to triangle theory. You need to judge somehow. I have no idea how you would rank fighters, if at all, without looking at their resume and it’s context. Boxing wouldn’t be much of a sport in your view I think you also need to stop blurring the distinction between ranking a better resume, vs looking at who’s a better fighter. The bolded - I pretty much did that before Wilder beat Ortiz. I think his resume is pathetic for a multi year title holder, but it’s better than most in a very weak division. When he first won the title, I struggled to put him in the top 5 Other than that, I don’t know what else to say as your view is fairly out there, as interesting as it is

Here’s a simple video which shows you are the liar he was stiffened up even with some Fury jabs ,he was stunned in round 8 and we saw him holding on in round 12,why do you think that was ,maybe a right hand ? Ha This video not only shows the shots that actually land it counts the punches for you which is good for Wilder fans they seem to be mathematically challenged . https://youtu.be/ahx17hT5dn4 Where exactly did Wilder "buckle a few times" which is what you said? Don't switch up your words or the topic now just because you got caught in a lie.

The boxing public have WANTED Deontay to fight better opponents for 5 years and Wilder has yet to fight 1 champion. fixed it for you.

Here’s a simple video which shows you are the liar he was stiffened up even with some Fury jabs ,he was stunned in round 8 and we saw him holding on in round 12,why do you think that was ,maybe a right hand ? Ha This video not only shows the shots that actually land it counts the punches for you which is good for Wilder fans they seem to be mathematically challenged . https://youtu.be/ahx17hT5dn4 Tyson Fury stung Deontay Wilder, I would not state that her hurt him badly at all 'Wilder's fatigue and lack of balance made things look even worse etc' I am still leaning towards Fury to win the rematch.

We don’t need triangle theories ,we have video evidence of how Wilder performs and it’s really no change ,he gets out boxed almost always now ,he’s going to be in serious trouble if he ever fights another sizable power puncher who’s in the top 10 ,that trouble can be that someone named Tyson Fury who has more then enough power to hurt him we know this because we saw Wilder buckle a few times last fight,why do we need a triangle theory for that ? Ha More lies and rewritten history lol.

The link provided shows he almost goes down from a body punch followed by left hook ,eats continuous right hands ,video evidence don’t lie like you do . Winning every round doesn’t excuse the fact it was a struggle to get the rounds won, you must be new to boxing ? Ortiz was a bit swelling and bloody after the fight,that’s not evidence of a struggle added getting hurt early even for a brief moment ? Ha The scorecard shows who the liar is. LOL. Not even one person from the media or judges considered this a struggle for Ortiz. But you can keep rewriting history and lying like most people with agendas do.

I invite everyone to look at this link provided ,it clearly shows Ortiz struggled badly with Hammer ,in fact when you see 20 seconds in it shows Ortiz almost gets dropped but I’m the one rewriting history ? Ha https://youtu.be/tVT40E9HTUw Ortiz nearly pitched a shutout. But according to you he "struggled." Ha