Broner Tank

Tank has the puncher’s chance plus his handspeed also increases that chance. The longer we wait, the better his chances would become because Loma is aging while Tank progresses as time goes by. Don’t tell me you want to wait it out until that time comes. Whether true or not, you’ve already heard those criticisms against Floyd, which we know you don’t like hearing, and he’s handling Tank now. Let’s not continue with that trend and let’s make it happen while it is ripe to do this particular match-up Please don't use a puncher's chance with Davis, unless YDKSAB. Do you watch his fights and actually watch his boxing skills? He's the commander in there. That's what Loma sees.

The match can’t be ripe if one guy doesn’t have a chance to win, right? The tank fight is only about money for Loma. They know tank isn’t going to fight him now because he can afford to wait. Meanwhile a solid young fighter that needs the exposure, one that is professional and the type of fighter all of us can respect even if we don’t like him wants the fight. Isn’t it better for the sport that a guy like Haney get a chance to make the leap against a prime Loma? With Haney and Loma, there isn't really the chemistry, the electricity, the demand, nothing, not yet at least. It will never happen, IMO, until Loma is around 37. No go, amigo. Screw the belt orgs.

I agree with you but let’s not forget he also had the 6 quasi pro fights where it was clear he was ready for the pro game. I also agree he wasn’t ready for the dirty stuff from Salido and imo would’ve beaten him in a rematch. Davis right now is not a tough fight for Loma. That is why all his diehard, agenda driven fans call for the fight now. While some of those dudes are klansman they aren’t dumb. They see how Loma looks with a longer, athletic opponent. Haney is taller, faster, more athletic, and can move and use his reach advantage to keep Loma in the outside. That is the recipe to beat him. This is similar to why all these dudes post Hearns and Paul Williams would beat floyd easily. I know you like tank and that we disagree in this but I respect your opinion always. I can respect all that my big bro. So, I will disengage, and agree to disagree for now. Different perspectives on boxing. I'll never tell you I told you so. That's why boxing is great. Happy new year, Big Dunn!:beerchug:

I think the Broner Tank comparisons are completely unfair. Broner actually takes tough fights even being the 'A Side' That is all. Your right. I think Broner wanted that. These other kids are terrified of doing the same.

Tank has the puncher’s chance plus his handspeed also increases that chance. The longer we wait, the better his chances would become because Loma is aging while Tank progresses as time goes by. Don’t tell me you want to wait it out until that time comes. Whether true or not, you’ve already heard those criticisms against Floyd, which we know you don’t like hearing, and he’s handling Tank now. Let’s not continue with that trend and let’s make it happen while it is ripe to do this particular match-up The match can’t be ripe if one guy doesn’t have a chance to win, right? The tank fight is only about money for Loma. They know tank isn’t going to fight him now because he can afford to wait. Meanwhile a solid young fighter that needs the exposure, one that is professional and the type of fighter all of us can respect even if we don’t like him wants the fight. Isn’t it better for the sport that a guy like Haney get a chance to make the leap against a prime Loma?

I think the Broner Tank comparisons are completely unfair. Broner actually takes tough fights even being the 'A Side' That is all. - -Boner already KOed Tanked in a drunken brawl outside Canelo's dressing room for the Kov fight. Tanked with his 3rd regular belt title gone as far as his fat will allow

I agree with you but let’s not forget he also had the 6 quasi pro fights where it was clear he was ready for the pro game. I also agree he wasn’t ready for the dirty stuff from Salido and imo would’ve beaten him in a rematch. Davis right now is not a tough fight for Loma. That is why all his diehard, agenda driven fans call for the fight now. While some of those dudes are klansman they aren’t dumb. They see how Loma looks with a longer, athletic opponent. Haney is taller, faster, more athletic, and can move and use his reach advantage to keep Loma in the outside. That is the recipe to beat him. This is similar to why all these dudes post Hearns and Paul Williams would beat floyd easily. I know you like tank and that we disagree in this but I respect your opinion always. Tank has the puncher’s chance plus his handspeed also increases that chance. The longer we wait, the better his chances would become because Loma is aging while Tank progresses as time goes by. Don’t tell me you want to wait it out until that time comes. Whether true or not, you’ve already heard those criticisms against Floyd, which we know you don’t like hearing, and he’s handling Tank now. Let’s not continue with that trend and let’s make it happen while it is ripe to do this particular match-up

Gervonta still has potential while Adrien is a gatekeeper

Pro boxing and amateur are like night and day. 3 rounds fighting kids with headgear. You should know that, Dunn. Loma had had a lot of amateur experience, but Davis is the one with the more pro experience. So your comparison doesn't fit. Lack of pro experience cost Loma the Salido fight. Loma now with his experience would have destroyed Salido at any weight, at any point. I agree with you but let’s not forget he also had the 6 quasi pro fights where it was clear he was ready for the pro game. I also agree he wasn’t ready for the dirty stuff from Salido and imo would’ve beaten him in a rematch. Davis right now is not a tough fight for Loma. That is why all his diehard, agenda driven fans call for the fight now. While some of those dudes are klansman they aren’t dumb. They see how Loma looks with a longer, athletic opponent. Haney is taller, faster, more athletic, and can move and use his reach advantage to keep Loma in the outside. That is the recipe to beat him. This is similar to why all these dudes post Hearns and Paul Williams would beat floyd easily. I know you like tank and that we disagree in this but I respect your opinion always.

Non American boxers get more amateur experience because their governments pay for them to remain amateurs. That is why they turn pro at an older age and fight top tier fighters earlier. Also Loma had 6 quasi pro fights prior to that fight. Age isn’t pro experience, but let’s not act like a fighter with 397 amateur fights and 6 quasi pro fight is inexperienced at age 25. Pro boxing and amateur are like night and day. 3 rounds fighting kids with headgear. You should know that, Dunn. Loma had had a lot of amateur experience, but Davis is the one with the more pro experience. So your comparison doesn't fit. Lack of pro experience cost Loma the Salido fight. Loma now with his experience would have destroyed Salido at any weight, at any point.

Tank would be the popular demand that’s why we got a thread like this about Tank’s resume being discussed in public opinion. You even inserted Loma in the discussion of this thread, hence Loma and Tank are the popular figures. To answer your question, it would be Tank and he super cedes Haney or even Lopez if he would be available because he’s the big name out of the 3. Loma’s been chasing Tank for awhile now while Lopez and Haney has been chasing Loma, you know that. You defending Tank while pushing Haney to Loma sounds fishy to me tbh Bold 1: And the best of the three, no comparison. No question in my mind. That's why Loma wants Davis. Best opponent and a lot of money to earn. Bold 2: The Big Dunn isn't defending Davis, he's trashing him. That's his opinion. I couldn't disagree more with some of the things he says about Davis. I never bought Big Dunn's thinking that Loma somehow is ducking Haney. Haney looked shit and in diapers in his last fight, skill wise, against a bum. Gamboa was a live dog. I made a thread about it and it went the exact way that I thought it'd go, but expected KO 10. Despite being 38, Gamboa did his best. Kudos to him. Remember when people here were trashing Lopez for the Nakatani fight? Almost everyone took a big dump on him. Now that he beat Commey, a C level fighter, all are raising him to the moon. In comparison, Davis didn't struggle whatsoever, knocked his opponent down 3 times and stopped him in the 12th. How is that performance bad? It wasn't the greatest exhibition of Gervonta's skills so far, but there's a lot more to come. Stay tuned.

My only problem with Broner is the fact he doesn't perform as well as I think he can against top competition after the Maidana fight which he was a warrior in.

age is not a professional experience Non American boxers get more amateur experience because their governments pay for them to remain amateurs. That is why they turn pro at an older age and fight top tier fighters earlier. Also Loma had 6 quasi pro fights prior to that fight. Age isn’t pro experience, but let’s not act like a fighter with 397 amateur fights and 6 quasi pro fight is inexperienced at age 25.

They are the same age at the time of both fights that’s why Loma did it in his 2nd and tank in his 23rd. age is not a professional experience

Sure - it isn't just him, but all the other guys with that kind of opposition deserve criticism also. Pedraza is one good win, I give him credit for that. Cuellar - at 130, is absolutely prospect level opposition. He didn't win a fight in years. Walsh is average European level fighter - He's a fighter that high level prospect fights, like Mario Barrios fighting Devis Boschiero at 130. That was a mandatory though so no issues at that stage. Issue is He refused to fight Loma, refused to fight Farmer - and since then fought hand-picked C level opponent, was gifted belts - it's just terrible for the sport imo. It's just as bad as when Munguia was refusing to compete with best 154 pounders and defending belt against journeymen. Or when Leo Santa Cruz takes tune-ups for belt year after year. Or when Billy Joe Saunders fights Shefat Tutti Frutti for vacant belt becaue Frank Warren has his shady relationship with WBO. Or when Canelo got bull**** title with Matthew Freaking Hatton and was avoiding top 154 pounders until fighting Trout. It's bull**** whoever does it. If You want to be a champion, You should compete with anyone, doesn't matter the age - I don't know how any boxing fan can not see that. That makes competition in boxing ridiculous, fighters who are dangerous don't get their shot... because They are too good. Fighters who are bad enough get their shot... because They can make champion look better. Bizzare. That's like NBA drafting bad players only to make the stars They already have look better. Ridiculous. But I guess if Your point is that there are fighters just as guilty of that as Gervonta, You're probably right. Great post, total common sense

I bet Broner in the long run will prove to be a better.

Tank would be the popular demand that’s why we got a thread like this about Tank’s resume being discussed in public opinion. You even inserted Loma in the discussion of this thread, hence Loma and Tank are the popular figures. To answer your question, it would be Tank and he super cedes Haney or even Lopez if he would be available because he’s the big name out of the 3. Loma’s been chasing Tank for awhile now while Lopez and Haney has been chasing Loma, you know that. You defending Tank while pushing Haney to Loma sounds fishy to me tbh So Tank is preferred even though he has had 1 fight at LW and the other 2 are established lw’s because he is the bigger name? Is that same rationale used for tank fighting Leo Santa Cruz next? Leo is a bigger name than farmer or Campbell. Sorry but that doesn’t make much sense to me. The guy that earned the fight first is getting it last. How is that right?

Tank would be the popular demand that’s why we got a thread like this about Tank’s resume being discussed in public opinion. You even inserted Loma in the discussion of this thread, hence Loma and Tank are the popular figures. To answer your question, it would be Tank and he super cedes Haney or even Lopez if he would be available because he’s the big name out of the 3. Loma’s been chasing Tank for awhile now while Lopez and Haney has been chasing Loma, you know that. You defending Tank while pushing Haney to Loma sounds fishy to me tbh Imo, having an issue whoever Lomachenko choses between Haney and Gervonta - that's nitpicking. I understand prefering one over the other, but come one - both are great fights. We'd be in great place if only issue in boxing fight was which great fight We'll see next. Issue is guys like Davis, Munguia, Leo Santa Cruz fighting complete push-overs for title. Plus Haney injured his shoulder and Eddie Hearn said that winner of Campbell vs Fortuna will fight Haney, so timing should play out perfectly for great Lightweight round-robin... as long as all the guys are willing to compete. I'm positive about Teofimo and Haney, huge respect to those young guns willing to prove themselves. With Davis... Well, You know...

Please answer my question, who should be 1st Haney or tank? Haney earned the shot before Lopez did but I understand why Lopez is next given he beat commey. Loma wanting him next ahead of Haney is the issue. Haney earned the fight before tank. The style matchup between Haney and Loma is far more interesting than Loma v tank imo. Tank would be the popular demand that’s why we got a thread like this about Tank’s resume being discussed in public opinion. You even inserted Loma in the discussion of this thread, hence Loma and Tank are the popular figures. To answer your question, it would be Tank and he super cedes Haney or even Lopez if he would be available because he’s the big name out of the 3. Loma’s been chasing Tank for awhile now while Lopez and Haney has been chasing Loma, you know that. You defending Tank while pushing Haney to Loma sounds fishy to me tbh

Are you now talking about earning a shot at Loma? Ok, who should be the 1st in line? Lopez or Haney? Who earned it more? Be honest Btw, Tank doesn’t need to earn a shot against Loma. Loma wants him next if possible Please answer my question, who should be 1st Haney or tank? Haney earned the shot before Lopez did but I understand why Lopez is next given he beat commey. Loma wanting him next ahead of Haney is the issue. Haney earned the fight before tank. The style matchup between Haney and Loma is far more interesting than Loma v tank imo.