The legend Miguel Cotto vs Danny Swift Garcia wouldve been a dope fight, boss $h1t w/ MC winning
Junito would also school Porter, CrawFart yet suffered vs a prime Pacquiao like I don't think Cotto does great against a prime Thurman who before his Spence ducking was unbeatable & pre-crash Errol destroys Miguel
Man, I'm a yuuuge Cotto fan, but as strong and determined and rough as Porter is when he's using that Energizer Bunny swarm style, it doesn't look like easy work to me. That said, imo it all depends on how much can Sean take of what Miguel dishes out, because you know Cotto is gonna' land beautiful shots, singly and in combination and often.
Does Porter overwhelm Cotto with pressure before Cotto does too much damage? Imo that's the question here.
When we talk about Cotto being "overwhelmed" can we look at the Margarito fights for a precident? Im torn on that one...On the one had we had the first fight gloves situation, we have differences in Margarito and Porter, on the other hand, Porter and Margarito depend on dishing out punishment, being relentless, and eventually overcoming any technical skills that are not good enough to stop them.
Just because it gives us some measure of comparison lets look at a near prime Margarito, with advantages, and lets look at how Cotto was able to deal with, or not deal with the situation. This is a strange scenario because of the loaded gloves!
I think Cotto almost won that fight despite the handicap...Cotto refused to clinch, which cost him dearly. With that said, I am of the opinion that Margarito was/is more relentless, yet not as much of a threat, as Porter. Porter is faster, and has faster feet. Margarito is more unorthodox and relentless.
I would say that based on his battle with Margarito, Cotto could handle Porter's relentless attack...Also, straight punches will always get there first in a tie. Porter is a "looper." But of course you never know and I can see arguments for Porter.
You think so? i don't know... Porter is a pressure fighter and certainly with relatively fast feet, Porter can catch up and smother a lot of boxers and punchers... But to me Cotto would destroy Porter to the body with technically better punches, while Porter tried to loop in and attack using his footwork.
Cotto was an incredible body puncher and I think he would catch Porter to the body.
Man, I'm a yuuuge Cotto fan, but as strong and determined and rough as Porter is when he's using that Energizer Bunny swarm style, it doesn't look like easy work to me. That said, imo it all depends on how much can Sean take of what Miguel dishes out, because you know Cotto is gonna' land beautiful shots, singly and in combination and often.
Does Porter overwhelm Cotto with pressure before Cotto does too much damage? Imo that's the question here.
Never drank the cool aid on Cotto. No way he beats Crawford. Porter gives him hell. Thurman has a shot. Garcia might be a bit one dimensional w those counter hooks. PAC beats Cotto anytime anywhere.
Don't see him beating any of the top 5 or so, but he'd have a good and entertaining 50-50 fight with Amir Khan.
Come on man, I like Amir but Cotto is stopping him. Amir's speed, jab and combos make him awkward for many fighters historically but once an elite fighter who can punch find his range and times Khan then there's likely only one outcome which is Amir getting stopped. Especially this version of Khan. Khan that fought Alexander would be thoroughly entertaining against Cotto but Miguel is finding that chin, especially when Amir starts dropping his hands to protect that body.
I'm Puerto Rican and love Cotto but Pacquiao beats him period.
Bad style for Cotto
If you take the fight as is without considering those huge intangibles I could see it. Pacquiaos speed, accuracy and south paw stance was a nightmare for Cotto.
But it was a beating he took against Margarito and the weight drain was too much. 2 pounds of muscle is a lot and some folk don’t realize the significance. Cotto was a large junior welter and 145 was too much weight drain.
I could see the fight playing out the same but fighters are never the same after a KO beating and are never the same cutting weight.
He never earned his position as a top Welterweight but was considered one because of a ROBBERY over Manny Pacquiao. That fight against Manny Pacquiao made Bradley one of the more famous fighters but being known doesn't equal being one of the best.
There was a time when most if not all (except for me) people in the boxing community considered Bradley the third best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather and Pacquiao. Yet he never did ANYTHING to prove it.
He lost to Pacman 3 times. Got a win over an old bloated Marquez. A draw with DIEGO CHAVES. And barely escaped with his life against Provodnikov and Jessie Vargas.
For comparison's sake, Keith Thurman knocked out Diego Chaves when he only had 20 fights. Even when they were green, I always thought Spence, Thurman, and Porter would've beat Bradley. Let alone, the current versions of those fighters. He didn't retire by accident when Spence became his mandatory.
Oh, let's not forget, he ducked Amir Khan at 140. I don't know how long you've been watching boxing, but this is back when Amir Khan was good. So, he never even established himself as the best at 140.
This is why Timothy Bradley is the most overrated welterweight if not fighter of his generation. He should've never been near top 5 p4p.
While I agree the win over Pac was a gift, he still went the distance three times with a prime Manny and held his own. The version of JMM he beat was a shredded roided up Marquez, not an easy win for anyone. It was a better version of Marquez who fought Floyd.
His decision not to fight Khan was a business decision. If we accuse Bradley of ducking Khan then we have to add Pac and Floyd to that list as well. As with many fights that don't get made it is a business decision and not always ducking.
Most overrated WW should go to the likes of Zab, Guerrero, Ortiz or Alexander.
Cotto and Spence would be great, I take Miguel on points.
After seeing how Spence handled Mikey Garcia I'm not so sure.
I know, I know, Cotto is waaaay better at 147 and much more powerful, however their height and reach is similar and I could see Errol causing problems if he elects to box from distance. Also, Spence brings stamina and a high work rate like Antonio Margarito (without the plaster) and I could see that being an issue too. Either way it would be a great fight.
Who does he beat, who beats him?
Ok, let's look at the ESPN top 10, and let's assume we are talking about Cotto circa 2006-2008 (pre-Margarito).
1. Errol Spence Jr.
Spence would enjoy a 3-inch height and 5-inch reach advantage and Cotto is actually similar in size to Mikey Garcia. I think Cotto would be way more competitive than Mikey was but Errol has more ways to win. He could box from the outside (although Cotto did have a great jab) or he could carry a fast pace and press the attack with body shots. I say Spence wins a UD 116-112.
2. Terrence Crawford
Crawford is a little shorter than Spence with even greater reach. Bud would enjoy a 7-inch reach advantage against Cotto, however I could see Cotto landing an effective jab in the early rounds. Crawford would probably spend the first half of the fight switching back and forth and fighting cautiously to avoid Cotto's left hook to the body. I see the tide turning in the middle rounds with Crawford turning into a killer down the stretch. This one could go either way in my eyes but I say Bud edges it by split decision (115-113 either way).
3. Shawn Porter
I think that Porter is there to be hit and Cotto would land his jab consistently on Shawn. The question would be whether or not Porter could grind Cotto down over the course of 12 rounds without getting busted up too badly. I say Cotto gets out to a lead and holds on down the stretch to eke out a razor-thin UD 115-113.
4. Danny Garcia
Garcia has slow feet but he likes to counter in exchanges and Cotto would have to watch out for that. I could see this fight being more tactical than the others as Cotto jabs and Danny looks for that big left hook. I think that Cotto at his absolute peak would be a little too dynamic so I see him winning a close but clear UD 116-112
5. Keith Thurman
I think Cotto banks rounds while Thurman looks for an explosive "One Time" shot to end the night early. I think he gets in a few bombs (like Zab Judah did) and maybe even scores a flash knockdown, however Cotto does enough body work to wear Keith down and score a late stoppage.
How was Bradley overrated? He lacked one-punch power, but made up for it with skill and work rate. All heart. Granite chin too.
He never earned his position as a top Welterweight but was considered one because of a ROBBERY over Manny Pacquiao. That fight against Manny Pacquiao made Bradley one of the more famous fighters but being known doesn't equal being one of the best.
There was a time when most if not all (except for me) people in the boxing community considered Bradley the third best welterweight in the world behind Mayweather and Pacquiao. Yet he never did ANYTHING to prove it.
He lost to Pacman 3 times. Got a win over an old bloated Marquez. A draw with DIEGO CHAVES. And barely escaped with his life against Provodnikov and Jessie Vargas.
For comparison's sake, Keith Thurman knocked out Diego Chaves when he only had 20 fights. Even when they were green, I always thought Spence, Thurman, and Porter would've beat Bradley. Let alone, the current versions of those fighters. He didn't retire by accident when Spence became his mandatory.
Oh, let's not forget, he ducked Amir Khan at 140. I don't know how long you've been watching boxing, but this is back when Amir Khan was good. So, he never even established himself as the best at 140.
This is why Timothy Bradley is the most overrated welterweight if not fighter of his generation. He should've never been near top 5 p4p.
Cotto is the second most overrated welterweight of his generation. 2nd only to Timothy Bradley. I'll confidently say, Crawford and Spence beat him. Thurman/Porter vs Cotto is 50/50 because of his gas tank or lack thereof. I would favor Cotto to beat Danny Garcia only because Garcia has a horrible work rate.
How was Bradley overrated? He lacked one-punch power, but made up for it with skill and work rate. All heart. Granite chin too.
Cotto is the second most overrated welterweight of his generation. 2nd only to Timothy Bradley. I'll confidently say, Crawford and Spence beat him. Thurman/Porter vs Cotto is 50/50 because of his gas tank or lack thereof. I would favor Cotto to beat Danny Garcia only because Garcia has a horrible work rate.
Trinidad vs. Cotto would have been a blast while it lasted. I see Tito stopping him in late rounds. Side note, I asked someone who is from the island of PR and a boxing fan how the popularity of Trinidad and Cotto compares...he said it wasn't even close, Trinidad gets way more love from Puerto Ricans.
Yes. Cotto was not nearly as popular as Cotto
One of my favorite fights in this modern era was Migeul Cotto vs Zab Judah 'Cotto seemed very stoic and terminator like in that fight' The atmosphere for a american crowd also seemed really electric.
It was at that point in time, when I thought Cotto was the man to beat Floyd Mayweather Junior.