With Dillian Whyte reinstated, we are back up to there being 7 world heavyweight titles.
WBC World Heavyweight Champion: Deontay Wilder
WBA World Heavyweight Champion: Manuel Charr
IBF World Heavyweight Champion: Anthony Joshua
WBO World Heavyweight Champion: Anthony Joshua
Interim WBC World Heavyweight Champion: Dillian Whyte
Super WBA World Heavyweight Champion: Anthony Joshua
Interim WBA World Heavyweight Champion: Trevor Bryan
In theory, Charr will fight Bryan in 2020 to eliminate the interim WBA title, although they could always go crown another interim champion.
I highly doubt we will see a WBA vs. Super WBA fight any time soon.
The soonest we'll see interim WBC vs. WBC is 2021.
Joshua won't be fighting Wilder or Fury in 2020 as they'll be fighting each other.
So how long do you guys think it'll take until we're back down to a reasonable amount of world heavyweight titles? 2022? longer?
Let's not forget the many well known fighters who help the WBU championship as well . . .
George Foreman
Ricky Hatton
Thomas Hearns
Hasim Rahman
James Toney
Johnny Nelson
Mickey Ward
Corrie Sanders
Enzo Maccarinelli
Kevin Kelly
... Right!... Thanks... :)
So you recognise the other secondary belts but not the IBO and you want to call others deluded? Ok mr wilderette
That guy has always been a joke.
Hez been on exile for a while and now hez back with his silly posts.
I simply don't wish do "defend" IBO here (as the IBO belt seems to be a title for "bad weather")... I only found an opportunity to look back a little in sport's history, tbh... :)
Let's not forget the many well known fighters who held the WBU championship as well . . .
George Foreman
Ricky Hatton
Thomas Hearns
Hasim Rahman
James Toney
Johnny Nelson
Mickey Ward
Corrie Sanders
Enzo Maccarinelli
Kevin Kelly
You can argue if you want whether the IBO should be a world title, but the fact is that it's not. Plenty of credible fighters have held minor unrecognized titles. For instance, the list of former IBA champions includes:
Oscar DeLa Hoya
Roy Jones Jr.
James Toney
George Foreman
Mikkel Kessler
Glen Johnson
Joel Casamayor
Erik Morrales
Arturo Gatti
Diego Corrales
Shane Mosley
Antonio Tarver
Jose Luis Castillo
Fernando Vargas
I simply don't wish do "defend" IBO here (as the IBO belt seems to be a title for "bad weather")... I only found an opportunity to look back a little in sport's history, tbh... :)
... not a AJ fan here!... :)
... but the fringe IBO belt was held by fighters like
You can argue if you want whether the IBO should be a world title, but the fact is that it's not. Plenty of credible fighters have held minor unrecognized titles. For instance, the list of former IBA champions includes:
Oscar DeLa Hoya
Roy Jones Jr.
James Toney
George Foreman
Mikkel Kessler
Glen Johnson
Joel Casamayor
Erik Morrales
Arturo Gatti
Diego Corrales
Shane Mosley
Antonio Tarver
Jose Luis Castillo
Fernando Vargas
I know thats your recurring talking point and you are technically right that there isnt actually a "regular" belt and that it's technically still the real belt.
But nowadays, everyone (probably) considers the WBA super belt more legitimate than the WBA belt, if both exist in one division. There shouldn't be an asteriks for Joshuas WBA world champion.
Yes the Super WBA title is considered more prestigious than the WBA world title, but all WBA champions have an asterisk now because the WBA crowns four world champions in every division. If you're not even the undisputed champion of the WBA, how can you really try to become the undisputed champion of the world? It's not Joshua's fault, but you can't blame people for considering the IBF title more prestigious now than basically being half or one quarter of the WBA champion.
Not only do you hear about the IBO on television but also these days those clowns talk lineal.
Even the DAZN broadcasts do not list the IBO title in their graphics. Yes you hear the ring announcer mention it, but the networks do not recognize the IBO as a world championship.
I see. So what you're actually saying is that of the 7 world titles Joshua only holds one real one and Wilder holds another... and that based on another thread you've made that the one Wilder holds is of greater significance. Have I got that about right?
Man, you're about as opaque as glass.:lol1:
No, what I'm saying is that out of the 7 world titles, Joshua holds three of the four most important ones, but I'm hoping the number will still be reduced lower than 7. Yes Wilder has the most important one, but historically, being unified WBA/IBF champion is more prestigious than being just the WBC champion.
Yes, Joshua holds three of the four major titles, but two of them have an asterisk. He's not actually the WBA world champion, Manuel Charr is and the WBO isn't fully recognized around the world the way the other three are.
I know thats your recurring talking point and you are technically right that there isnt actually a "regular" belt and that it's technically still the real belt.
But nowadays, everyone (probably) considers the WBA super belt more legitimate than the WBA belt, if both exist in one division. There shouldn't be an asteriks for Joshuas WBA world champion.
Yes, Joshua holds three of the four major titles, but two of them have an asterisk. He's not actually the WBA world champion, Manuel Charr is and the WBO isn't fully recognized around the world the way the other three are.
Its like you exist just to cause arguments about shit that nobody cares or thinks about.
We get it, you would swallow Wilder's Johnson deep.
This is a great example of how brainwashed Joshua fans are.
Nobody considers the IBO a recognized world championship. None of the recognized sanctioning bodies. None of the major television networks. None of the major promoters.
But the UK fans are so obsessed that they'll believe anything and pretend anything is true.
... not a AJ fan here!... :)
... but the fringe IBO belt was held by fighters like:
Thomas Hearns, former Cruiserweight champion
Lennox Lewis, former Heavyweight champion
Hasim Rahman, former Heavyweight champion
James Toney, former Cruiserweight champion
Wladimir Klitschko, former Heavyweight champion
Roy Jones, Jr., former Light Heavyweight champion
Marco Antonio Barrera, former Featherweight champion
Naseem Hamed, former Featherweight champion
Jeff Lacy, former Super Middleweight champion
Floyd Mayweather, Jr., former Welterweight champion
Ricky Hatton, former Light Welterweight champion
Chad Dawson, former Light Heavyweight champion
Roger Mayweather, former Light Welter and Welter champion
Anthony Joshua, former Heavyweight champion
Manny Pacquiao, former Light Welterweight champion
Antonio Tarver, former Light Heavy and Cruiserweight champion
Jean Pascal, former Light Heavyweight champion
Bernard Hopkins, former Light Heavyweight champion
Nonito Donaire, former Flyweight champion
Sergio Gabriel Martínez, former Super Welterweight champion
Jeff Mayweather, former super featherweight champion
Eduard Troyanovsky, former Light Welterweight champion
Jarrett Hurd, former Light Middleweight champion
...
Julian Williams , Gennady Golovkin, Chris Eubank Jr...
Yes, Joshua holds three of the four major titles, but two of them have an asterisk. He's not actually the WBA world champion, Manuel Charr is and the WBO isn't fully recognized around the world the way the other three are.
I see. So what you're actually saying is that of the 7 world titles Joshua only holds one real one and Wilder holds another... and that based on another thread you've made that the one Wilder holds is of greater significance. Have I got that about right?
Man, you're about as opaque as glass.:lol1:
Umm, I think most folk would reckon Joshua as having 3 of the 4 main titles. Nobody gives a damn about the IBO and personally I'm increasingly coming round to the opinion that the rest of 'em ain't worth a hilll of beans either. Nonetheless to most of the boxing world they're still important and Joshua holds 3 and Wilder holds one.
Yes, Joshua holds three of the four major titles, but two of them have an asterisk. He's not actually the WBA world champion, Manuel Charr is and the WBO isn't fully recognized around the world the way the other three are.
WBA-R, I-WBA, and I-WBC = IBO.
In reality, not at all. All of the TV networks, fighters, managers and promoters recognize all of the super, world and interim titles of the WBC, WBA and IBF and most of them recognize the WBO. None of them recognize the IBO.
Every TV network, fighter, manager and promoter on the planet would rather feature a WBA world championship than an IBO championship, even if the WBA has a super champion in that division.
You know the vast majority of fans, pundits and publications only recognise 4 of the above titleholders to be genuine World Champions.
All of the fighters, networks, promoters and managers recognize World titles, Super titles and interim titles.
I have to assume you have some purpose is this little piece of misdirection but I really can't figure out what it would be.
Stop being paranoid. My threads have very clear agendas. There's no need to search for hidden ones. The purpose of this thread is to show that there are too many world heavyweight titles right now and there won't be less any time soon.
It's not trying to devalue the fact that Joshua holds 3 of the 4 most widely recognised titles or something silly like that is it?
That's ridiculous. The WBC reinstating an interim champion doesn't devalue Joshua's belts in any way.
Wilder and Joshua hold every meaningful hw title. The rest are just background noises.
I’m sure everyone doesn’t know that but everyone here does. Maybe it helps with ticket sales to have a fight for a meaningless title, where’s the harm?