I remember back, when Wilder and Fury were still fringe contenders. Nobody thought they could become top 2 of main 3 guys in division. Fury was dropped by Cunningham and Pajkic, he seemed to be chinny and lack power for this division.
After performance against Hammer, Fury was seen as a huge underdog against Vladimir.
Wilder has always been a KO artist but it is easy to look good when you fights club fighters. I remember I mentioned on another forum back in 2012 that Vitali should fight Wilder and everybody laughed. People started taking him seriously when he stopped Laikhovich and Scott.
We have now Efe Ajagba and Dubois, but both of them are hyped already. Maybe they are not even future top contenders. My question is, who is dark horse in division?
Hrgovic fights exactly like Vitali minus the slight power difference ,less effective jab and loops his shots a bit more but brings the same defense tactics ,awkward angles and a better body attack . If you are saying Hrgovic isn't that good you are saying Vitali isn't because they are roughly 95% the same fighter even size wise.
Again you said you get the rules but you don't otherwise you see punching down on someone breaking the rules by turning away is illegal,so no you don't get it and just want to say hes a cheapo shot fighter . Ha
Anyway im almost always right ,it is what it is we'll see. I only see AJ and Fury getting by a Hrgovic if they fought soon .
I get the rules just fine. You don’t seem to. It is never, I repeat NEVER, legal to target the back of the head. Yes, if you inadvertently hit the back of your opponents head because they turned as you threw, that is not illegal. Your opponent turns his head then you throw, it’s completely illegal. That’s the facts, not just my opinion.
If you think Vitali and Hrgovic are nearly the same my opinion is that you ignore that Vitali used his feet better, instead of just leaning backwards Vitali used his feet. Vitali’s jaw was one of the best ever Hrgovic’s is still a question mark. Vitali’s punches are not only more powerful but also shorter and crisper. That’s my opinion and you are welcome to disagree.
Arslanbek Makhmudov will be a name to look for also should he get any decent opponents
wow just looked at one of his fights, man does he posses some power. He looks more fluid than some of the other newcomers mentioned in this thread
I’m not that high on anyone tbh.
Hrgovic and Ajagba are too one dimensional and slow as fu.ck. Dubois is heavy landed by trades and eats too much big punches against bums who’re slow as fu.ck. He needs to improve a lot. Yoka has no chin.
The top guys aren’t that old except Wilder. AJ just turned 30. Fury is 31/32. Dillian Whyte is 31. Parker is 28. Ruiz is 30/31. So I except them to dominate for the next 3-4 years.
George Arias is 28
Arslanbek Makhmudov will be a name to look for also should he get any decent opponents
He and Efe Ajagba look scary as hell...but I'm not sure how good they are.
They said the same about Vitali klitschko ,called him a stiff euro bum who couldn't fight ,I bet you weren't watching boxing back then early 2000's other wise you could see where Hrgovic is going to cause major trouble. You'll see i'm right if he fights others besides AJ. Not even Hunter wanted him and declined and took on Povetkin instead. Hunter is known to go after everyone ,yet took a left turn away from Hrgovic.
I don't know who exactly "they" are but I never said that about either Klitschko. I am saying it about Hrgovic and am also thinking some may not want to fight him because he, as I said earlier, targets the back of his opponents heads.
I've been watching boxing since the 60's. I've seen them come and I've seen them go. I'm not always right but I am more often than not.
as I said...we'll see.
That's because hes a brute and a clubber , most guys cannot take that kind of sustained punishment and they shell for cover.
Time will tell. In my opinion he's a semi talented HW who targets the back of the head. He's also pulls his own head straight back with his chin totally exposed. That trick isn't going to work much longer.
You cannot put your head down or turn your head away from your opponent exposing the back of your head intentionally otherwise they are legal shots, if you don't understand this ,you don't understand the rules.
I get that BUT every single fight he somehow manages to have his opponent turning his head.
I remember back, when Wilder and Fury were still fringe contenders. Nobody thought they could become top 2 of main 3 guys in division. Fury was dropped by Cunningham and Pajkic, he seemed to be chinny and lack power for this division.
After performance against Hammer, Fury was seen as a huge underdog against Vladimir.
Wilder has always been a KO artist but it is easy to look good when you fights club fighters. I remember I mentioned on another forum back in 2012 that Vitali should fight Wilder and everybody laughed. People started taking him seriously when he stopped Laikhovich and Scott.
We have now Efe Ajagba and Dubois, but both of them are hyped already. Maybe they are not even future top contenders. My question is, who is dark horse in division?I can only go by the boxers they show me on the fight channels I get. Efe and Dubois look good and might be able to KO the top guys, none of who are exceptional in my opinion. Wilder would be very dangerous for them with his solid chin and mighty straight right.They both have a lot of power and are young. Ortiz hurt Wilder so maybe they could KO Wilder. Both of them could easily KO AJ or Fury if they can land there bombs since they don't take a punch as good as Wilder. But I may be overrating them now because they are untested against good opponents.
Tony Yoka is some how (well not really, it is because he fights mostly in France) underrated and overlook and is not mentioned at all when discussing that next crop of Heavyweights on the rise BUT he has the most upside/potential IMO along with Dubois and Hrgrovic. Yoka can potentially be a COMPLETE fighter
Disappointed he went Pro so early but the Kid Arum just signed, Jared Anderson, has a TON of potential
Also the Heavy Handed Uzbekistan Heavyweight Bakhodir Jalolov is a name to Remebber, I think it is complete BS that he is even allowed to still compete in the Amateurs despite already turning pro but regardless he is a good fighter